Cam Heyward wants a new deal

[MT~Forged]

Oh I’m sure I’m in the deep minority here, I’m talking more outside of this group.

I realized a long time ago that we have a lot of “get off my lawn and oh by the way, go back to the old days,” people here.

I’ll disappear for my yearly season break from the constant complaining soon enough.

That's what people do when they get mad because people won't bow to their believed overwhelming intellect. I have been here since the beginning on the .biz board, we have seen many others that leave when they don't get treated like the genius they believe themselves to be. You leaving, for a day, month, or year, will not even be noticed.

 

[Pollardo40]

That's what people do when they get mad because people won't bow to their believed overwhelming intellect. I have been here since the beginning on the .biz board, we have seen many others that leave when they don't get treated like the genius they believe themselves to be. You leaving, for a day, month, or year, will not even be noticed.

Bruh I’m just having a conversation. Idk why you are taking this so seriously. I’m not mad at all.
We disagree, not a big deal.

I don’t think I’m a genius or a know it all by any means. We have differing opinions and we’re both voicing it, and that’s alright. Kinda the point.

I wouldn’t expect anyone to notice, but yes I’ll stand behind what I said - there are windows on this site where there seems to be no positive energy or comments anywhere you look.

I do it every year, get tired of constant negativity, take a break, and come back when the cravings of more Steelers conversation come crashing in lol.

 

[BLITZ]

Let's get this back to Cam.

Is he worth anything in a trade?
I would not cave. Let him decide if he wants to be a Steeler on his current contract or traded to another team.
One helmet guy indeed.

 

[Pollardo40]

And if you knew me you'd see that I ain't really like that, But, I find the Heyward thing beyond absurd. Using your fellow team members in your own media platform to criticize your team's front office, when they gave you 3 years of more than decent salary for your age, coming from a serious injury and low production season is beyond ungrateful and actually quite disrespectful and unprofessional from a supposed stand up guy and team leader that a few weeks before was criticizing his current QB and future HoF for a similar contractual issue.

I can't stay on his side, every action gets worse and worse: hold in, his interview speech, now the podcast BS ?

I’m definitely not for the showboating or making a scene of the situation, just don’t really care if a player attempts to maximize their profits in what is typically a small window of a career.

And on the other side of that coin the teams trying to get theirs and squeeze every penny,
I didn’t see any interview speech or podcast stuff

 

[Fiji Mariner]

I’m definitely not for the showboating or making a scene of the situation, just don’t really care if a player attempts to maximize their profits in what is typically a small window of a career.

And on the other side of that coin the teams trying to get theirs and squeeze every penny,
I didn’t see any interview speech or podcast stuff

I’m all for players trying to maximize their income and side with players at least 95% of the time.

Cam is just dead dead wrong here.
He’s not a newbie
He knows the Steelers don’t renegotiate until the final year of a deal, much less one year after a deal is signed.

He’s being an asshat here, a greedy hypocrite asshat that chose to play it safe, not bet on himself, but now he wishes he had.

Very un-Captain-like
**** Cam

 

[stillwright]

And as far as the giggle. I would not have giggled. Id have said. Cam this is your final contract with this club. You are going to have to be happy with it or do not sign it and retire.

Cam took the giggle as they doubted he would be all-pro......they hopefully were giggled at the fact he thought he would rework the contract.

 

[insaniti]

Come on man, don’t do that.

I very clearly said it’s not common, not that it can’t happen. Sure, they could’ve, but they didn’t.

I just told you how this contract was a 1 year deal in my eyes, and some others as well. I absolutely get why people are upset about the 1 year later thing, but it was literally not a clear cut new contract extension. We’re dancing around the same response at this point.

How is $29m in new money NOT a new contract? He's already pocketed $14m THIS YEAR from a roster bonus. This nonsense that it was a glorified restructuring is a false narrative.

This is how his contract is broken down.

Cameron Heyward signed a two year, $29 million extension with the Steelers on September 4, 2024. $16 million is guaranteed which is equal to his original salary of his prior contract. $14.7 million of the guarantee was paid as a signing bonus. In 2025, there is a $13.45 million roster bonus that will be earned on the 5th day of the league year. In 2026 there is a $12.95 million roster bonus due on the 5th day of the league year. The extension reduced Heyward's 2024 salary cap number by $9.8 million.

 

[topseed]

I think fans just care about things that don’t really matter at this point, and it’s fueled by others who don’t really understand the financials behind NFL contracts.

It boils down to one question for me - do you see him as a top 15 DT in the NFL right now?
If you say yes, which most of us will then he’s underpaid.

Given the unique and ongoing contract situation with Cam over the last year, his advanced age, his supposed loyalty to the Steelers, his hypocritical bullshit about other players, etc., etc., boiling it down to that one question is short-sighted and myopic.

Here's another couple of questions for you: Did you see him as a top 15 DE in 2023? You know, when he had 2 sacks and 33 total tackles for the entire season? Cam was the third-highest paid DT in the league that year with a cap hit of $22.26 million -- how much of that did he give back to the Steelers when he was grossly OVER-valued that season?

So in summary, who cares.

You evidently care enough about it to have replied numerous times to various posters. And, yes, many other fans care about it because not one of us expected more nonsense from this "pillar of the community" after his act was more than fairly rewarded by the Steelers with a three-year extension just last September.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Screw trading Cam, I would just suspend him for max allowed time and wait to see if his attitude changes. If not suspend him again after a week or two. Trading him means he gets what he wants.

I hear what you are saying, but I’m not sure the CBA will allow a suspension.

I’m not sure what the criteria is on a “Hold-In” protest, but a hold out is a little bit different.

Hold out can be until week 10 and then show up, that constitutes a full.

A hold in, we have to pay him.




Salute the nation

 

[SteelerSask2]

I hear what you are saying, but I’m not sure the CBA will allow a suspension.

I’m not sure what the criteria is on a “Hold-In” protest, but a hold out is a little bit different.

Hold out can be until week 10 and then show up, that constitutes a full.

A hold in, we have to pay him.




Salute the nation

The term Hold in refers to being at camp but refusing to do certain activities. The Hold in will become a holdout week one when he refuses to play. Then he will have to leave and not play till week 10........but then he will almost be out 2/3 of this years contract.

 

[Steelr4evr]

I have this vibe Cam will retire after this season, so he's try to squeeze out some right now money because he won't be around next year.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I have this vibe Cam will retire after this season, so he's try to squeeze out some right now money because he won't be around next year.

This could very easily be the case because I think that year 3 of the current contract was extremely compatible to termination.



Salute the nation

 

[SteelerFan448]

I think fans just care about things that don’t really matter at this point, and it’s fueled by others who don’t really understand the financials behind NFL contracts.

It boils down to one question for me - do you see him as a top 15 DT in the NFL right now?
If you say yes, which most of us will, then he’s underpaid.

The money wouldn’t even be a conversation if the media didn’t want it to be. We wouldn’t even know contract numbers and you wouldn’t care.

And there’s no other free agent that giving him a raise would hinder us from signing.

So in summary, who cares.

The Steelers have cap room, so I don't care if they pay him or not. It can set a precedent, but then again, they can tell anyone they want yes or no. Cam is just coming off as real whiney a year after agreeing to a contract he didn't have to.

But to your point about him being a top 15 DT in the NFL right now, is Patrick Mahomes a top 5 QB right now? He's tied for 14th in average pay for year, with Kirk Cousins, a backup QB. He isn't a free agent until 2032. It was a great contract for long-term security, but terrible for overall value. I don't see him complaining about not getting paid enough.

The problem with the NFL right now is the "next guy" is always becoming the highest paid, whether or not they are the best. Factor in that older players will never be paid at the top of their positions, Cam is where he is right now.

 

[Drink IRON City]

The term Hold in refers to being at camp but refusing to do certain activities. The Hold in will become a holdout week one when he refuses to play. Then he will have to leave and not play till week 10........but then he will almost be out 2/3 of this years contract.

Thank you SteelerSask2

I was responding to the “suspension” part of the previous poster.

I don’t think we can suspend him for either a Hold-in or a hold out.

On the hold out, he doesn’t get paid because he chooses to hold out, plus he can be fined.

On the hold in, we have to pay him by NOT being able to fine him, during training camp (and beyond)




Salute the nation

 

[stillwright]

Bruh I’m just having a conversation. Idk why you are taking this so seriously. I’m not mad at all.
We disagree, not a big deal.

I don’t think I’m a genius or a know it all by any means. We have differing opinions and we’re both voicing it, and that’s alright. Kinda the point.

I wouldn’t expect anyone to notice, but yes I’ll stand behind what I said - there are windows on this site where there seems to be no positive energy or comments anywhere you look.

I do it every year, get tired of constant negativity, take a break, and come back when the cravings of more Steelers conversation come crashing in lol.

Yep...I am sick and tired of the source of the negativity. Hopefully the Rooney family will move on from him sooner rather than later....but hey....if A A Ron can stay healthy maybe we can get another 9 win season. Hopefully make the playoffs and play at least a competitive game.

 

[Confluence]

They let Najee for less than this. He spoke up when things weren't going well - gone.

George was about to turn into AB Jr. - gone.

Minkah was forced to play more LB than safety and he was told that his play was below the line - gone.

I see a trend. Cam better start packing...

AB was a troubled diva, Pickens is an immature star, Najee made one substantive comment only, and Minkah was publicly pretty quiet.

Cam is showing his aasss here, because he is ramping up his public comments, and it seems he just roped two new teammates into publicly pitching for him. Weak sauce.

Compare and contrast to TJ and Boswell.

it's just very disappointing to see Cam act like a biitch.

 

[SteelerSask2]

Thank you SteelerSask2

I was responding to the “suspension” part of the previous poster.

I don’t think we can suspend him for either a Hold-in or a hold out.

On the hold out, he doesn’t get paid because he chooses to hold out, plus he can be fined.

On the hold in, we have to pay him by NOT being able to fine him, during training camp (and beyond)




Salute the nation

Yes. Agreed. And having thought about it. He got most of this salary 11million on his Roster bonus. Not sure how much he will lose by sitting.

 

[stillwright]

Yes. Agreed. And having thought about it. He got most of this salary 11million on his Roster bonus. Not sure how much he will lose by sitting.

AI Overview




Cameron Heyward's contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers this season is for $14.75 million. This includes a $13.45 million roster bonus, with the remaining $1.3 million as base salary, according to CBS Sports.

 

[stillwright]

AB was a troubled diva, Pickens is an immature star, Najee made one substantive comment only, and Minkah was publicly pretty quiet.

Cam is showing his aasss here, because he is ramping up his public comments, and it seems he just roped two new teammates into publicly pitching for him. Weak sauce.

Compare and contrast to TJ and Boswell.

it's just very disappointing to see Cam act like a biitch.

His father was Ironhead


He is Cam "the Biitch" Heyward

 

[jitter77]

The Steelers have cap room, so I don't care if they pay him or not. It can set a precedent, but then again, they can tell anyone they want yes or no. Cam is just coming off as real whiney a year after agreeing to a contract he didn't have to.

But to your point about him being a top 15 DT in the NFL right now, is Patrick Mahomes a top 5 QB right now? He's tied for 14th in average pay for year, with Kirk Cousins, a backup QB. He isn't a free agent until 2032. It was a great contract for long-term security, but terrible for overall value. I don't see him complaining about not getting paid enough.

The problem with the NFL right now is the "next guy" is always becoming the highest paid, whether or not they are the best. Factor in that older players will never be paid at the top of their positions, Cam is where he is right now.

This is a great example and we also have Rodgers making only 10 million (up to 14.5) which makes him the 21st paid QB. Then you have Dak making 60 million who cant even seem to play a whole season.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

I hear what you are saying, but I’m not sure the CBA will allow a suspension.

I’m not sure what the criteria is on a “Hold-In” protest, but a hold out is a little bit different.

Hold out can be until week 10 and then show up, that constitutes a full.

A hold in, we have to pay him.




Salute the nation

How can a team have to pay a player if they refuse to play? I’m not versed on how a “hold in” works or the mechanics of the rules regarding it.

Seems like conduct detrimental to the team.

I can see not being able to fine a player for a “hold in” and not practicing (though that even seems murky)…but if during a game a coach says you’re in on this play and a player is like “naw coach, I’m good, I’m holding in” how is that not vacating your position and how is that not conduct detrimental to the team? That should 100% be not only a fine but be cause to repay bonus money already paid imo.

The NFL certainly has some strange rules.

 

[Drink IRON City]

How can a team have to pay a player if they refuse to play? I’m not versed on how a “hold in” works or the mechanics of the rules regarding it.

Seems like conduct detrimental to the team.

I can see not being able to fine a player for a “hold in” and not practicing (though that even seems murky)…but if during a game a coach says you’re in on this play and a player is like “naw coach, I’m good, I’m holding in” how is that not vacating your position and how is that not conduct detrimental to the team? That should 100% be not only a fine but be cause to repay bonus money already paid imo.

The NFL certainly has some strange rules.

I’m not the expert, but willing to eat crow later if need be…………

On a “Hold-In” the player is willing to do the necessary drills and his presence it there. Nothing that qualifies for suspension

On a “Hold-Out”, the moment the player refuses to play in the Game Time, that becomes something that is suspendable and fineable. Teams would not let a play “Hold-In” during the regular season (but anything is possible with this soft FO / owner administration and coaching staff).

I’m pretty sure Cam knows this is his last season in Pittsburgh, like it or not. He can say what ever he wants about 2 or 3 more years of play, but age and bridge burning will prevent his time here.

The Steelers gave him a 3 yr extension with that 3rd year being very team friendly for cut. The smart play would be to force Cam’s hand. Tell him play this season or hold out, but that decision is due in my office tomorrow morning at 10am. If he insists on the Hold-in with out his decision being made, you isolated him from the team. NO media availability and for criminy sakes…….. NO ****-ing in the facility Podcasting.




Salute the nation

 

[SteelerSask2]

AI Overview




Cameron Heyward's contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers this season is for $14.75 million. This includes a $13.45 million roster bonus, with the remaining $1.3 million as base salary, according to CBS Sports.

So essentially him sitting out the year is meaningless. Or at least tge first 10 weeks. Clearly he played a dick game here. He took the 13.45 million payment and then started complaining before camp. What a leader!

 

[Fiji Mariner]

I’m not the expert, but willing to eat crow later if need be…………

On a “Hold-In” the player is willing to do the necessary drills and his presence it there. Nothing that qualifies for suspension

On a “Hold-Out”, the moment the player refuses to play in the Game Time, that becomes something that is suspendable and fineable. Teams would not let a play “Hold-In” during the regular season (but anything is possible with this soft FO / owner administration and coaching staff).

I’m pretty sure Cam knows this is his last season in Pittsburgh, like it or not. He can say what ever he wants about 2 or 3 more years of play, but age and bridge burning will prevent his time here.

The Steelers gave him a 3 yr extension with that 3rd year being very team friendly for cut. The smart play would be to force Cam’s hand. Tell him play this season or hold out, but that decision is due in my office tomorrow morning at 10am. If he insists on the Hold-in with out his decision being made, you isolated him from the team. NO media availability and for criminy sakes…….. NO ****-ing in the facility Podcasting.




Salute the nation

I like the deadline idea I’d also tell him to quit trying to involve teammates in his petty battle he’s having.

I’d cut Connor if and when the wrong answer was given taboot.

Quit effin around, make your point loud and clear Steelers.

Right now it looks like a bunch of spineless ******* atop this organization.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

Cam had Darius Slay and Jalen Ramsey on his podcast to plead with Omar to pay him. Completely embarrassing display, sounded like hostages reading a prepared statement.

I haven’t seen a player bungle a contract dispute this poorly since Le’Veon Bell.