Tomlin's look in the thrd period

[Ike Kelly]

I was not fine with it. It was ruled a catch. The replay showed it was a catch. It's not getting over ruled

The field goal was dumb. Boswell was having a rare bad day. And we needed touchdowns to come close.

It's not like we ask ask the defense to force a punt. Tomlin without Ben is exposed again.

Next time on 4th and 2, when down 11 points give the ball to Bell. DUH

The ruling isn't being disputed, I think the challenge was to break the momentum of the offense.

FG range was a stretch, but MT was showing confidence with Boz. And with a FG, you are only down one TD, not plural. I like the percentages with Bell on 4th down. Man, had he caught that pass on 3rd down he would have been off to the races.

Exposed? Most everyone felt NE would ramp up 40 points and run away with it. Both coordinators had good game plans. We kept Marcia under 300 yards and was in the game until the last missed FG. Tomlin, won't make any excuses, but when you are missing 3 offensive starters including your QB and the defense's best player and captain, and still kept the game close against that offense, I'd say we showed NE is beatable and not a supreme being like most pundits were saying.


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[jitter77]

We were also supposed to steam roll Miami last week. While we did better than expected this game it does not show anything. We had little pressure on brady and got pretty gouged in the run game. Also once we seemed to get close NE was able to score when needed.

I think the offensive game plan was bad. Early in the game it should have been bell bell and more bell. Landry put up almost 50 passes. Not going to win games that way.

 

[antdrewjosh]

So again the kick sailed wide right but had the distance.

 

[antdrewjosh]

I would of liked more carries for Bell too but the score dictated us to lean on the pass a little more

 

[Coach]

The ruling isn't being disputed, I think the challenge was to break the momentum of the offense.

FG range was a stretch, but MT was showing confidence with Boz. And with a FG, you are only down one TD, not plural. I like the percentages with Bell on 4th down. Man, had he caught that pass on 3rd down he would have been off to the races.

Exposed? Most everyone felt NE would ramp up 40 points and run away with it. Both coordinators had good game plans. We kept Marcia under 300 yards and was in the game until the last missed FG. Tomlin, won't make any excuses, but when you are missing 3 offensive starters including your QB and the defense's best player and captain, and still kept the game close against that offense, I'd say we showed NE is beatable and not a supreme being like most pundits were saying.


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Oh I see. Down 11 points late in the game vs a team that can score and a defense that can't stop them go for a 54 yard field goal and have confidence in Landry Jones to get a two point conversion if your score a touchdown?. Is this what your saying Ike?

Bell would get 2 yards as a runner or reciever.

If it was 4th and 13 yards to go And a shorter field goal maybe then you take 3 points. But it wasn't. It was 4th and 2.

Tomlin did not make the right decision to give his team the best chance to win. He has a history of doing this.

 

[Lunar]

So again the kick sailed wide right but had the distance.

A miss is a miss.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Oh I see. Down 11 points late in the game vs a team that can score and a defense that can't stop them go for a 54 yard field goal and have confidence in Landry Jones to get a two point conversion if your score a touchdown?. Is this what your saying Ike?

Bell would get 2 yards as a runner or reciever.

If it was 4th and 13 yards to go And a shorter field goal maybe then you take 3 points. But it wasn't. It was 4th and 2.

Tomlin did not make the right decision to give his team the best chance to win. He has a history of doing this.

Lol Hindsight for the naysayers. If the FG had been made then it's 8 points down, with 11 minutes to play. No team has been close in the 4th qtr with Marcia playing, until that point. If the defense held, which they had stops several times, one score to get a chance to tie. Preferably by feeding Bell, rushing or receiving.

Had Pitt won this game, you would still find faults with the coaching.


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[antdrewjosh]

That 4th 2 wasn't going to be easy. Belichek was going to key Bell. Was brown back at that point?? If not that left Bell with Belichek keying on him or putting it in Landry hands.. in the moment I was saying go for it. But I can understand the decision to kick. Boz missed it. Had the distance just missed it.

 

[ark steel]

all you ******* whiners were practically guaranteeing the *'s would put up 40 points and the Steelers had no chance to be in the game, at all, and when they only put up 27 on a D with a lot of injuries (only held to lower once this season), you have to find something else to ***** about.

the 3rd and 2 with empty backfield was stupid. LJ in the backfield alone is stupid IMO. not going for it on 4-2 was stupid imo, too, but I'm over it.

I didn't expect them to win. I expected it to be a lot worse than it was. They kept it reasonably close to a team that openly cheats while starting a back up QB, a very good back up RB and several Defensive injuries. I'm over it.

 

[Steel G]

How many 50+ kicks have been made at that end of the stadium? It's his own god damn stadium and he either doesn't know that the percentage blows or he doesn't care. Either way, it's **** coaching.

 

[bigben]

54 yard field goal would have tied the longest field goal in the history of Heinz field.
I am usually in the middle of the road as far as my view of Tomlin. But a few times today I thought to myself "The Steelers pay this moron millions of dollars?"

 

[obxsteeler]

Oh I see. Down 11 points late in the game vs a team that can score and a defense that can't stop them go for a 54 yard field goal and have confidence in Landry Jones to get a two point conversion if your score a touchdown?. Is this what your saying Ike?

Bell would get 2 yards as a runner or reciever.

If it was 4th and 13 yards to go And a shorter field goal maybe then you take 3 points. But it wasn't. It was 4th and 2.

Tomlin did not make the right decision to give his team the best chance to win. He has a history of doing this.

He has a history of winning a lot more than losing. Might even be better than yours at second guessing.

 

[antdrewjosh]

How many 50+ kicks have been made at that end of the stadium? It's his own god damn stadium and he either doesn't know that the percentage blows or he doesn't care. Either way, it's **** coaching.

Is that even still a issue?? Kickers have been banging kicks down that end for awhile now.

 

[deljzc]

Saying we only gave up 27 points is like putting lipstick on a pig.

We were pretty soundly beaten. New England was never seriously in danger of losing the game and they acted like it. That's how champions act. That's how you take care of business on the road when you are 7.5 point favorites (unlike the Steelers who are all hungover in Miami).

It's the difference between a well coached team and poorly coached team. A team that plays with CONTROLLED emotion as opposed to whooping and hollering over meaningless plays and more worried about what dance you have planned when you score a touchdown.

It doesn't matter. This season is like the rest. We all know it. Good enough to say "we don't have losing seasons", but not good enough to mean anything in the playoffs. Good enough to keep the stands full and the gear selling. Not good enough to create legitimate excitement in the fan base.

After New England (who is in a league by themselves), the conference isn't all that good. All the teams have visible weaknesses. So maybe if something happens to Brady, a torn ACL, a concussion, who knows... The Steelers might be able to make a run against the likes of Cincinnati, Indy, Houston, Denver, Oakland, Buffalo, etc.

But those are just false hopes.

There is no desire to become GREAT in this organization. To do all the little things and be smart and decisive and strive for perfection in everything they do. Tomlin accepts good, Colbert accepts good and that's what we are. Good.

 

[nitsuj1225]

Goddamn.....can't resist a good Tomlin-ripping can we ?

The team play better than expected and had there not been a couple miscues (score nullifying penalty and missed kicks), this game was there for the taking.

Without Cameron, Wheaton, Rogers, Shazier for a half, and a limping Brown we still had chances and guys stepped up. Give the coach some credit. Wait til the SPYGATES hang 40 on Rexy to appreciate how well the team stayed focused with so many wounded.

Where was the fight in this team last week? You know, against a sub .500 team that had to go to OT to beat the Browns. Or is everything ok in Tomlin land now that we hung with the Pats? Even though The Pats dropped about 3 INT's and some easy first down completions to make it look closer than it actually was.

A coach made questionable decisions that didn't work out, I don't care who the coach is, they should be called out on it. It's also one thing to make questionable calls a couple weeks out of the season but to continuously suck at clock management week in and week out is inexcusable. Who in their right mind, with the game clock running under 1 minute down 2 scores, lets the play clock run to 5 seconds before running the next play with a timeout left at the end of the game, on 4th down nonetheless? 2 scores with a minute to go is improbable but not impossible. For the love of God don't just give up though and that's what it looked like when the camera panned to blank looks of bewilderment on the sidelines. Even the announcers were dumbfounded and that's saying something.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

AntDrew,

Our kicker has never been some long distance accurate kicker.. you can post some facts if you like,, I'm not,, But that has been my perception.

 

[Coach]

Saying we only gave up 27 points is like putting lipstick on a pig.

We were pretty soundly beaten. New England was never seriously in danger of losing the game and they acted like it. That's how champions act. That's how you take care of business on the road when you are 7.5 point favorites (unlike the Steelers who are all hungover in Miami).

It's the difference between a well coached team and poorly coached team. A team that plays with CONTROLLED emotion as opposed to whooping and hollering over meaningless plays and more worried about what dance you have planned when you score a touchdown.

It doesn't matter. This season is like the rest. We all know it. Good enough to say "we don't have losing seasons", but not good enough to mean anything in the playoffs. Good enough to keep the stands full and the gear selling. Not good enough to create legitimate excitement in the fan base.

After New England (who is in a league by themselves), the conference isn't all that good. All the teams have visible weaknesses. So maybe if something happens to Brady, a torn ACL, a concussion, who knows... The Steelers might be able to make a run against the likes of Cincinnati, Indy, Houston, Denver, Oakland, Buffalo, etc.

But those are just false hopes.

There is no desire to become GREAT in this organization. To do all the little things and be smart and decisive and strive for perfection in everything they do. Tomlin accepts good, Colbert accepts good and that's what we are. Good.

I completely agree with this and will add more. Without Ben, Tomlin's a goner. But win Ben, people ignore his mistakes as we win enough games

 

[antdrewjosh]

AntDrew,

Our kicker has never been some long distance accurate kicker.. you can post some facts if you like,, I'm not,, But that has been my perception.

I agree he hasn't shown in a game to kick one that long. Tomlin claims he hits them in practice and one from that distance in his tryout in the rain. I said my self I would of went for it. But it's not like we've seen Landry convert pressure 4th down play either. And if Brown wasn't available I'm not sure maybe someone knows. Belichek was going to key Bell putting the ball in Landry's hands. Boz from 54 or Landry to convert??

 

[nitsuj1225]

I agree he hasn't shown in a game to kick one that long. Tomlin claims he hits them in practice and one from that distance in his tryout in the rain. I said my self I would of went for it. But it's not like we've seen Landry convert pressure 4th down play either. And if Brown wasn't available I'm not sure maybe someone knows. Belichek was going to key Bell putting the ball in Landry's hands. Boz from 54 or Landry to convert??

If everyone knew Belichek was going to key on Bell, wouldn't that be the opportune time to go to James or even Grimble for those 2 yards? Hell even if Brown was gimpy, stick him out there as a decoy and at least draw coverage. That's the reason Hamilton had a TD catch, Belichek doubled two other receivers and we took advantage. Could've done it again and only needed 2 yards.

 

[Coach]

AntDrew,

Our kicker has never been some long distance accurate kicker.. you can post some facts if you like,, I'm not,, But that has been my perception.

I think this is wrong. Boswell has been money and many of his 45-51 yard kicks would have been good from 55+

Ask those at practice, he has a leg for 60 yards or more.

He was having a bad day prior to this 54-yard attempt on 4th and 2, down 11 points late in the game.

 

[antdrewjosh]

If everyone knew Belichek was going to key on Bell, wouldn't that be the opportune time to go to James or even Grimble for those 2 yards? Hell even if Brown was gimpy, stick him out there as a decoy and at least draw coverage. That's the reason Hamilton had a TD catch, Belichek doubled two other receivers and we took advantage. Could've done it again and only needed 2 yards.

We tried that last week against Miami and how did that go. Landry got happy feet and missed James wide open

 

[antdrewjosh]

I think this is wrong. Boswell has been money and many of his 45-51 yard kicks would have been good from 55+

Ask those at practice, he has a leg for 60 yards or more.

He was having a bad day prior to this 54-yard attempt on 4th and 2, down 11 points late in the game.

He missed his first kick and made his next two that's bad??

 

[antdrewjosh]

I think this is wrong. Boswell has been money and many of his 45-51 yard kicks would have been good from 55+

Ask those at practice, he has a leg for 60 yards or more.

He was having a bad day prior to this 54-yard attempt on 4th and 2, down 11 points late in the game.

If he makes the kicks we down one score and a conversion with 9 and some change left. That's not late in the game

 

[ark steel]

I agree he hasn't shown in a game to kick one that long. Tomlin claims he hits them in practice and one from that distance in his tryout in the rain. I said my self I would of went for it. But it's not like we've seen Landry convert pressure 4th down play either. And if Brown wasn't available I'm not sure maybe someone knows. Belichek was going to key Bell putting the ball in Landry's hands. Boz from 54 or Landry to convert??

I took more issue with the 3rd down play than whether or not the FG attempt was made.

 

[nitsuj1225]

We tried that last week against Miami and how did that go. Landry got happy feet and missed James wide open

He was probably still half drunk like the rest of the team was last week anyway.

But seriously, Landry came off the bench and filled in momentarily while Ben was getting tended to...hardly the same as preparing the entire week as a starter and playing the whole game.