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I knew there would be excuses.
Tomlin's look in the thrd period
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I knew there would be excuses.
According to you Bell isn't a powerful back but of course you would say he would pick up 2 yards when the defense is intent on stopping and has him targeted. And before you or anyone else say he is always targeted, Ben or Brown are usually on the field too help with that to make teams pay.
Why wasn't there a capable back up in place to go in for Ben and keep things a float til he came back. Why didn't the defense rise up and keep things in check?
And I have never ever in my time on this board heard the super bowl letdown excuse used to describe the 2009 or 2011 seasons. But for 2006 it's cool
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I'll ask you again, if you keep justifying MT's decision to go for the FD by claiming that the Steelers would not make the 4&2, how would expect the same offence to score a TD and a 2 point conversion in the closing minutes of the game?
Would it not make much more sense to try to score a TD first and a FD in the dying seconds? Is the Steelers offence not full of weapons that could've fooled the Patriots? Could MT FOR ONCE not out-coach Belicheat in at least one play?
When you can find where I justified it I will answer. AGAIN I WOULD OF GONE FOR IT.
And if they scored a TD on that drive they still needed to go for 2 or they needed two TDs.
And AGAIN I'm saying for all those who said just give it to Bell. As I said before this article came out that the Patriots and Belichek were keying Bell. So running for two yards in that situation is a lot to ask. To me about the same as Boz making the kick. So it wasn't a slam dunk decision was my point.. For those saying run a Play action pass we did that last week and Landry panicked and missed open receivers and maybe that influenced the coaches to kick.. With a healthy Brown Ben and Bell the call is different
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According to this board, why in the hell would you go for 4th and 2 against a team that steals your signals and knows what play you are going to run???
I mean, Jesus, how stupid could you be? Why prepare at all when they cheat.... You have a built in excuse for Brady's 27-2 TD to INT ratio (which is better than his career by the way in all the other games he's cheated in).
I mean, Jesus, how stupid could you be? Why prepare at all when they cheat.... You have a built in excuse for Brady's 27-2 TD to INT ratio (which is better than his career by the way in all the other games he's cheated in).
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According to some here, why would you even bother showing up to play the game? Bill is such a master, you are really, just wasting your time and risking injury. There is no possible way you can beat him, right?
Just because you cheat doesn't mean you DO win, it just means that the odds are tilted, greatly, in your favor.
Did you hear the announcers say, during the game that the *'s had thrown no int's all year up to that point, including the back ups. I didn't look to see if it is true.
Wasn't it you that did an analysis of all NFL teams a few years ago and showed that the *'s are an outlier for wins that there must be something outside of the game?
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This pats**** stuff is old news. They're way outside of any logic of this so called domination for a so long being natural. I just don't buy it. But whatever. I never bought into lance armstrong being 100% legit either. The pats**** can be beat just like anyone,but the odds are stacked against you.
Yet you keep posting comments/quotes that attempt to justify the stupidity of our brilliant HC. You focus on Bellicheat keying on Bell, is this not a perfect opportunity to use that to our advantage
Again I said I would of went for it so how am I justifying? I'm trying to make a case for it being not a clear cut decision. And for the record they did that last week and Landry didn't execute the play despite people being open. Maybe that played a factor into the decision.
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Don't be ridiculous there can't possibly be a way to see something from another angle.
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You know, we have a QUARTERBACK in Ben who seems to play sub par against meager less talented opponents. Again, keep given him passes ..
Steelers' Boswell kicking himself after misses
Ralph N. Paulk BY RALPH N. PAULK
Wednesday, Oct. 26, 2016, 7:12 p.m.
Updated 15 hours ago
Steelers kicker Chris Boswell reacts after missing against the Patriots on Sunday, Oct. 23, 2016, at Heinz Field.
Steelers kicker Chris Boswell reacts after missing against the Patriots on Sunday, Oct. 23, 2016, at Heinz Field.
PHOTO BY CHAZ PALLA | TRIBUNE-REVIEW
The job of an NFL kicker became increasingly difficult last season when the extra-point distance was stretched to 33 yards, effectively turning up the heat to convert a 1-point play.
While the percentage for the extra-point attempts declined as expected in 2015, there also was an unexpected consequence. According to former kicker Jay Feely, pressure has mounted to make routine kicks. Thus, some have had their confidence shaken.
Already, 19 teams have missed at least one PAT through Week 7. Only five teams were perfect during the 2015 season.
The numbers aside, Feely's assertion appears to have validity.
The best example came during the waning minutes of overtime Sunday night between the Seattle Seahawks and Arizona Cardinals. Two usually reliable kickers, Chandler Catanzaro and Stephen Hauschka, badly missed chip shots that would have resulted in a victory instead of a 6-6 tie during a lackluster nationally televised game.
However, they shared misery in Week 7. There were several misses from makeable range that influenced strategy as well as outcomes.
Steelers kicker Chris Boswell has been remarkably accurate since earning the job last season after Sean Suisham suffered a season-ending knee injury and Josh Scobee was released. Boswell went 29 of 32 last season, but he missed twice in a 27-16 loss to the New England Patriots on Sunday.
Yet it wasn't as stunning as New England's Stephen Gostkowski missing his second PAT of the season. Gostkowski was perfect on PAT attempts for nine seasons until missing in consecutive games against Cincinnati and the Steelers.
Boswell missed from 42 and 54 yards, distances he covered last season en route to setting several single-season club records for a rookie. Coach Mike Tomlin, hoping to swing momentum and get to within one score in the fourth quarter, opted to attempt the 54-yarder with 9 minutes, 5 seconds remaining because Boswell converted from the same position last season at Heinz Field.
“It's as simple as a lack of focus, which leads to easy misses,” Boswell said. “My job is to make kicks, and I didn't make as many as I expected to. It was a rough day. It wasn't my best, and I have to move on.
“You always have to have a short memory. There's always the next kick, the next opportunity, so you can't dwell on it.”
After Boswell's kick sailed wide right, the Steelers failed to mount another challenge. While Tomlin was second-guessed, Boswell rejected the notion the field wasn't at its best.
“I have no complaints about the field at all,” he said. “It was just about us missing. We just didn't execute.”
For Boswell, it's less about added pressure and more about execution. He is 7 of 10 on field-goal attempts this season, including 6 of 7 between 40 and 49 yards.
“It's about doing all the small contact drills, seeing the ball rotation, seeing how it flies,” Boswell said. “I played the wind on the first (missed field goal), but the wind didn't touch it and it was missed. If you expect too much out of the wind, even a good ball can miss.
“It's a lot of factors and lot of minimal things that can't affect a field goal really big. It's toe up, toe down, where you hit it, where you plant. I have to fix it.”
Greg Warren, the team's veteran long snapper, said he is confident Boswell will regain his rhythm when the Steelers face the Baltimore Ravens on Nov. 6.
“We'll get back on the practice field for reps, which is what it's all about,” Warren said. “Whenever you stumble, you get back out there and fix it to get it right.
“I told Chris to just move on. He knows what it takes to get it right because he made some big kicks during the playoffs last year.
“Everybody goes through ebbs and flows, but you try not to have too many,” Warren added. “Sadly, he'll probably go through another spell before his career is over with, but he'll be all right because he's a tough-minded kid.”
Still, Boswell welcomes the bye week.
“It's an extra week to get back to the basics and start fresh,” said Boswell, who tied a team record last season with seven field goals in the playoffs. “We have to work on the small things because the little things add up.”
http://triblive.com/mobile/11371397-96/boswell-season-field
Ralph N. Paulk BY RALPH N. PAULK
Wednesday, Oct. 26, 2016, 7:12 p.m.
Updated 15 hours ago
Steelers kicker Chris Boswell reacts after missing against the Patriots on Sunday, Oct. 23, 2016, at Heinz Field.
Steelers kicker Chris Boswell reacts after missing against the Patriots on Sunday, Oct. 23, 2016, at Heinz Field.
PHOTO BY CHAZ PALLA | TRIBUNE-REVIEW
The job of an NFL kicker became increasingly difficult last season when the extra-point distance was stretched to 33 yards, effectively turning up the heat to convert a 1-point play.
While the percentage for the extra-point attempts declined as expected in 2015, there also was an unexpected consequence. According to former kicker Jay Feely, pressure has mounted to make routine kicks. Thus, some have had their confidence shaken.
Already, 19 teams have missed at least one PAT through Week 7. Only five teams were perfect during the 2015 season.
The numbers aside, Feely's assertion appears to have validity.
The best example came during the waning minutes of overtime Sunday night between the Seattle Seahawks and Arizona Cardinals. Two usually reliable kickers, Chandler Catanzaro and Stephen Hauschka, badly missed chip shots that would have resulted in a victory instead of a 6-6 tie during a lackluster nationally televised game.
However, they shared misery in Week 7. There were several misses from makeable range that influenced strategy as well as outcomes.
Steelers kicker Chris Boswell has been remarkably accurate since earning the job last season after Sean Suisham suffered a season-ending knee injury and Josh Scobee was released. Boswell went 29 of 32 last season, but he missed twice in a 27-16 loss to the New England Patriots on Sunday.
Yet it wasn't as stunning as New England's Stephen Gostkowski missing his second PAT of the season. Gostkowski was perfect on PAT attempts for nine seasons until missing in consecutive games against Cincinnati and the Steelers.
Boswell missed from 42 and 54 yards, distances he covered last season en route to setting several single-season club records for a rookie. Coach Mike Tomlin, hoping to swing momentum and get to within one score in the fourth quarter, opted to attempt the 54-yarder with 9 minutes, 5 seconds remaining because Boswell converted from the same position last season at Heinz Field.
“It's as simple as a lack of focus, which leads to easy misses,” Boswell said. “My job is to make kicks, and I didn't make as many as I expected to. It was a rough day. It wasn't my best, and I have to move on.
“You always have to have a short memory. There's always the next kick, the next opportunity, so you can't dwell on it.”
After Boswell's kick sailed wide right, the Steelers failed to mount another challenge. While Tomlin was second-guessed, Boswell rejected the notion the field wasn't at its best.
“I have no complaints about the field at all,” he said. “It was just about us missing. We just didn't execute.”
For Boswell, it's less about added pressure and more about execution. He is 7 of 10 on field-goal attempts this season, including 6 of 7 between 40 and 49 yards.
“It's about doing all the small contact drills, seeing the ball rotation, seeing how it flies,” Boswell said. “I played the wind on the first (missed field goal), but the wind didn't touch it and it was missed. If you expect too much out of the wind, even a good ball can miss.
“It's a lot of factors and lot of minimal things that can't affect a field goal really big. It's toe up, toe down, where you hit it, where you plant. I have to fix it.”
Greg Warren, the team's veteran long snapper, said he is confident Boswell will regain his rhythm when the Steelers face the Baltimore Ravens on Nov. 6.
“We'll get back on the practice field for reps, which is what it's all about,” Warren said. “Whenever you stumble, you get back out there and fix it to get it right.
“I told Chris to just move on. He knows what it takes to get it right because he made some big kicks during the playoffs last year.
“Everybody goes through ebbs and flows, but you try not to have too many,” Warren added. “Sadly, he'll probably go through another spell before his career is over with, but he'll be all right because he's a tough-minded kid.”
Still, Boswell welcomes the bye week.
“It's an extra week to get back to the basics and start fresh,” said Boswell, who tied a team record last season with seven field goals in the playoffs. “We have to work on the small things because the little things add up.”
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People blame Tomlin for trying the FG but Boswell blames himself for not making it. He obviously doesn't agree it's "beyond his range". I wonder if we were Atlanta fans where they went 4th and 2 on Sunday, failed and lost the game what our reaction would be?
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Not even remotely the same. 1. That game was in OT. 2. Atlanta was on their own friggen side of the field. That was in a whole other category of stupid.
Why even bother to explain to the tard???
I didn't say anything like "you have to be perfect on your kicks" to get another opportunity.
The point I'm trying to get across to you, once again, is that in the past Tomlin has eschewed long field goals in similar late-game situations (but still of less distance than 54 yards) when his kicker was hitting the ball solidly and confidently earlier in the game. Against the Patriots, he goes totally against the grain, and trots Boswell out there for the longest attempt of his career, after the guy was clearly struggling with his accuracy all day. Tomlin's made the wrong decision in these cases, in my opinion.
But to answer your question: What I would have done is run Bell on third-and-two, and then run him again on fourth down if he didn't make it. When I need two yards in two plays, I'd put the ball in the hands of my best player once (or twice if I had to), not Landry Jones OR Boswell from 54 yards on the rare day he looks uncomfortable out there.
That line that you put in bold there about Boswell converting "from the same position last season at Heinz Field" is bullshit, because his career long is 51 yards.
Try doing your own research for a change, before you try to make a point with someone else's information which simply isn't true.
So where exactly does it say the distance is the same?? Could the writer be referring to the used to be open end of the field. Is 3 yards a difference for someone who has the leg and hits them from further in practice..was the FG short no it was wide so your point because obviously three yard wasn't the issue
Was Landry Jones his QB? Was Boz his kicker? And I already said I would of went for it too. But I could understand the hesitancy of trusting Landry and having a tad more confidence in Boz even with the first miss. And how do we know how Boz felt attempting the kick. He felt it was kick he can and should make
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This I do agree with. Against Denver in the playoffs, I think there were a couple opportunities where he elected to go for it instead of kicking the field goal from a range of about 48+ yards. And there's been other times where Ben has pooched from about 50 yards. So I do get where people get their rationale of questioning Tomlin's consistency in certain situations. Anyway, I probably would have gone for the first, too, las Sunday but I do get the reasoning behind the field goal. Especially considering that, with the exception of Bell, all the Steelers playmakers were on the sideline in that spot. And after seeing Boswell's kick definitely had the leg. New England would have more than likely shut Bell down.
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I'm more pissed about the 3rd and 2 with an empty backfield than I am about the FG attempt. I don't even like empty backfield on 3rd and 2 when Ben is on the field, especially with a dual threat like Bell that could be next to him, why would I do it with LJ?
Hated it with Arians hate it with Haley. Hate being in shotgun period on third and short.
Again not wanting Tomlin to go anywhere, but two OC's doing the same **** points to the coach.
Why does he need to go somewhere just because we don't like it. Damn near every team does it. It's a part of football now. I've said repeatedly there are things I don't like that Tomlin does that's one