Tomlin's look in the thrd period

[ark steel]

Shotgun is OK, IMO. Gives the QB a better look at the D and, if there is a RB right next to him, especially, with the versatility of Bell, you can hit the quick out, quick slant, handoff, roll out delayed handoff, RB can chip a rusher and catch a short pass, all kinds of **** can go right.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Shotgun is OK, IMO. Gives the QB a better look at the D and, if there is a RB right next to him, especially, with the versatility of Bell, you can hit the quick out, quick slant, handoff, roll out delayed handoff, RB can chip a rusher and catch a short pass, all kinds of **** can go right.

I hate it Ark. Rather see them in a threatening power formation. You can still pass out of that if that's the plan. But it at least casts some doubt on the defense and makes them a step slow hopefully

 

[Coryea]

He doesn't have to go anywhere, I just put that before my statement because some dumb *** would think I want to fire him because I don't agree with everything he does

 

[Ike Kelly]

Again not wanting Tomlin to go anywhere, but two OC's doing the same **** points to the coach.

C, Haley did it with Kurt at Arizona and ran the same formation with KC. Now, of course we don't have a Tony Gonzalez, that made all the difference. Hoping Green fills this void. Empty backfield is a matchup creator. But I rather go rush/play action on 3rd and short...as well.


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[topseed]

So where exactly does it say the distance is the same?? Could the writer be referring to the used to be open end of the field. Is 3 yards a difference for someone who has the leg and hits them from further in practice..was the FG short no it was wide so your point because obviously three yard wasn't the issue

The writer is mistaken. He wrote: "Coach Mike Tomlin, hoping to swing momentum and get to within one score in the fourth quarter, opted to attempt the 54-yarder with 9 minutes, 5 seconds remaining because Boswell converted from the same position last season at Heinz Field."

HE INCLUDED THE EXACT DISTANCE OF 54 YARDS IN HIS STATEMENT. So, no, Boswell has never, ever, converted from the SAME position, on any field.

And, yes, three yards is a huge difference when we're discussing 50+yard field goals, especially when the kicker has never made one from said distance IN A GAME SITUATION. I've heard of guys making 70-yarders in practice...do their coaches ever put them out there to kick field goals from their own territory?

 

[topseed]

Was Landry Jones his QB? Was Boz his kicker? And I already said I would of went for it too. But I could understand the hesitancy of trusting Landry and having a tad more confidence in Boz even with the first miss. And how do we know how Boz felt attempting the kick. He felt it was kick he can and should make

Not sure what your reply has to do with Tomlin not opting to run Bell on third and fourth down to gain 2 total yards. If he had, then he wouldn't have had to worry about deciding between Landry or Boswell from 54 yards.

 

[antdrewjosh]

The writer is mistaken. He wrote: "Coach Mike Tomlin, hoping to swing momentum and get to within one score in the fourth quarter, opted to attempt the 54-yarder with 9 minutes, 5 seconds remaining because Boswell converted from the same position last season at Heinz Field."

HE INCLUDED THE EXACT DISTANCE OF 54 YARDS IN HIS STATEMENT. So, no, Boswell has never, ever, converted from the SAME position, on any field.

And, yes, three yards is a huge difference when we're discussing 50+yard field goals, especially when the kicker has never made one from said distance IN A GAME SITUATION. I've heard of guys making 70-yarders in practice...do their coaches ever put them out there to kick field goals from their own territory?

So did the kick have the distance or was it short?????

 

[antdrewjosh]

Not sure what your reply has to do with Tomlin not opting to run Bell on third and fourth down to gain 2 total yards. If he had, then he wouldn't have had to worry about deciding between Landry or Boswell from 54 yards.

Tomlin calls the plays now I thought we had a offensive Coordinator for that..

 

[topseed]

So did the kick have the distance or was it short?????

Again, your reply has nothing to do with the topic, but yes, the ball had the distance, but he hooked the kick...just like he'd done the rest of the day. Big surprise.

 

[topseed]

Tomlin calls the plays now I thought we had a offensive Coordinator for that..

Right, Tomlin can't tell the coordinators what he wants. I forgot, although he's the "head coach," he has no input whatsoever in the play-calling in important situations, and is responsible for nothing.

So what does he do, again?

 

[antdrewjosh]

Right, Tomlin can't tell the coordinators what he wants. I forgot, although he's the "head coach," he has no input whatsoever in the play-calling in important situations, and is responsible for nothing.

So what does he do, again?

So what made that play call on Third and two more important then any other play call?? How would Haley feel knowing that his calls have to approved?? The man let's his coaches coach. Now If Haley calls a triple reverse and Tomlin doesn't say anything let me know

 

[antdrewjosh]

Again, your reply has nothing to do with the topic, but yes, the ball had the distance, but he hooked the kick...just like he'd done the rest of the day. Big surprise.

Oh you mean like the two he made. Well damn I don't know style points were to be considered on kicks made

 

[topseed]

So what made that play call on Third and two more important then any other play call?? How would Haley feel knowing that his calls have to approved?? The man let's his coaches coach. Now If Haley calls a triple reverse and Tomlin doesn't say anything let me know

Because it was in the fourth quarter with the game on the line?

 

[topseed]

Oh you mean like the two he made. Well damn I don't know style points were to be considered on kicks made

Yeah, like the two he BARELY made, and the one he missed. It's not about "style points," it's about how the kicker is striking the ball and his confidence level, the importance of which you (and your good buddy Tomlin) evidently can't comprehend.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Because it was in the fourth quarter with the game on the line?

I'm not being funny Topseed but important plays can be at any point of the game..he let's his coordinator coach. Like most coaches do. Or they just call their own plays. You will never get some one to coach under you if you don't let them do their job..

 

[antdrewjosh]

Yeah, like the two he BARELY made, and the one he missed. It's not about "style points," it's about how the kicker is striking the ball and his confidence level, the importance of which you (and your good buddy Tomlin) evidently can't comprehend.

So what makes him my good buddy. So if a kicker makes his first three but doesn't hit them right down the ******* middle and a coach doesn't let him attempt the next one because they weren't right down the middle and said that in his press conference after the game he would be laughed out of town..Um yeah I know he made the first three but none were right down the middle so I didn't let him attempt a fourth. SMH

 

[Coach]

Yeah, like the two he BARELY made, and the one he missed. It's not about "style points," it's about how the kicker is striking the ball and his confidence level, the importance of which you (and your good buddy Tomlin) evidently can't comprehend.

Exactly. And to ask Boswell who was having a bad day to kick a career-long 54-yard field goal, down 11 points late on a 4th and 2 to me is hurting the Steelers chances.

 

[Stryker]

At least Boz has the leg strength to hit a 54 yarder, unlike the 49yd max distance on Sushi.

 

[topseed]

I'm not being funny Topseed but important plays can be at any point of the game..he let's his coordinator coach. Like most coaches do. Or they just call their own plays. You will never get some one to coach under you if you don't let them do their job..

You're right, man. It's all Haley's fault. Tomlin's too busy doing whatever it is he does to step in and tell his coordinator what he wants on a crucial third down play with less than ten minutes left in the game. You think that never happens elsewhere?

So what makes him my good buddy. So if a kicker makes his first three but doesn't hit them right down the ******* middle and a coach doesn't let him attempt the next one because they weren't right down the middle and said that in his press conference after the game he would be laughed out of town..Um yeah I know he made the first three but none were right down the middle so I didn't let him attempt a fourth. SMH

What makes him your good buddy is your undying love and adulation. I've never seen anything like it on this board since it happened with Kordell.

Umm, the kicker didn't make his first three, remember? Smack your head again.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Where did I say it's Haley fault?? The call didn't work because it wasn't executed. Coaches call the play players execute. Did any player come out and say well we didn't practice that play at all, not once all week. Go out and make a play. Of course they didn't so the head coach should of ran a different Play stepped in called a play SMH..


My undying love lol. No I just refuse to blame him for everything that goes wrong. And I will wait for you to find one quote from praising him for everything that goes right. I didn't blame Cowher for everything under the sun but I should for Tomlin??? 4th and 3 vs San Diego did I say Bill should of overruled his coordinator. No O'Donnell should of executed better and thrown it earlier. Players play coaches coach.

Sure didn't he had made two in a row though

 

[topseed]

Where did I say it's Haley fault?? The call didn't work because it wasn't executed. Coaches call the play players execute. Did any player come out and say well we didn't practice that play at all, not once all week. Go out and make a play. Of course they didn't so the head coach should of ran a different Play stepped in called a play SMH..


My undying love lol. No I just refuse to blame him for everything that goes wrong. And I will wait for you to find one quote from praising him for everything that goes right. I didn't blame Cowher for everything under the sun but I should for Tomlin??? 4th and 3 vs San Diego did I say Bill should of overruled his coordinator. No O'Donnell should of executed better and thrown it earlier. Players play coaches coach.

Sure didn't he had made two in a row though

I said they should have run Bell twice. YOU said it wasn't Tomlin's call, it was his coordinator's. YOU were bitching about having to choose between Landry Jones and Boz from 54. YOU blame anyone and everyone else other than Tomlin when the Steelers lose...then you'll chirp and complain about why no one was sucking his dick when they were 4-1. They were the FAVORITES to win every one of those games -- they SHOULD have been 5-0.

4th and 3 against San Diego? WTF are you babbling about now? Should they have run the ball? Kicked a field goal instead? Smack your head again.

 

[Steeltime]

Again, your reply has nothing to do with the topic, but yes, the ball had the distance, but he hooked the kick...

Actually he pushed it to the right, and it was short. It barely made the end line at the back of the end zone. The thing was a ******* shank job that had zero chance the minute it left his foot.

 

[antdrewjosh]

I said they should have run Bell twice. YOU said it wasn't Tomlin's call, it was his coordinator's. YOU were bitching about having to choose between Landry Jones and Boz from 54. YOU blame anyone and everyone else other than Tomlin when the Steelers lose...then you'll chirp and complain about why no one was sucking his dick when they were 4-1. They were the FAVORITES to win every one of those games -- they SHOULD have been 5-0.

4th and 3 against San Diego? WTF are you babbling about now? Should they have run the ball? Kicked a field goal instead? Smack your head again.

I would had no problem If they had run Bell twice I said this. But I also could see it being tough sledding with Brown out and the Patriots keying on Bell. So here we.are on 4th down and again I said I WOULD OF GONE FOR IT. That was what I wanted to do in real time that day Watching the game. But again under the circumstances I could understand giving Boz a go.

I praise players when they play well and talk about them when they don't. When the Steelers were 4-1 did you see me crediting the coaching as the reason. Mike Tomlin is 4-1. No you didn't see that. My issue with people is we are 0-3 and it's all his fault but we went 4-1 despite of him. When ever we do anything well it's despite If him..win the super bowl that was despite of him. You can't blame him for EVERYTHING when we are sucking and everything is despite of when we are ok..that's my issue when it comes to Tomlin and it would be the same if it was anyone else. But no I just love mike Tomlin