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Would You Welcome Back Rodgers Again?

Where does the non-existent first quarter offence and fourth quarter defence fit into this theory?
I’m not saying Tomlin is blameless. I’m saying that maybe he saw the issues outside of his own flaws and wanted to make a change. It’s possible. I know it’s easier to believe anything else. Still, I think the non-losing seasons thing is more Art than Mike.
 
I’m not saying Tomlin is blameless. I’m saying that maybe he saw the issues outside of his own flaws and wanted to make a change. It’s possible. I know it’s easier to believe anything else. Still, I think the non-losing seasons thing is more Art than Mike.
I don't get that sense with how Tomlin coached since 2020--not to lose.

Glazer also mentioned that Tomlin first thought about stepping away two years ago. I have to question if that's true and how long the Steelers knew Tomlin was near the end.
 
no his mobility to throw on the run or roll out is gone, he can barely step up and throw, if he all pro OT and a consisent Lg he may do better but that's not going to change. I see a 3rd rnd pick swing OT coming to compete vs Jones and maybe a tier A OG to replace Isaac.
I am saying Kyler murray could be a strong 3-4 year option, but for a 5th or 6th and restructured deal maybe Mike and the coaches he brought can install the same type of rpo O like Baltimore philly has and even dak has and see so get him for not much and full competition vs Howard, and you draft a mid rnd guy asa developmental like
 
After the beating Aaron took in the Houston Texan game I wonder if he would want to come back. I hope the new O line coach improves the blocking schemes.
 
A #2 & #3 WR, a RB that offers power, a LT/LG to strengthen the OL.

An OC that understands the roster order of Friermuth over Jonnu Smith.

A HC that runs QB friendly schemes.

A rookie/1st year QB to learn under him.

I think Rodgers is perfectly fine in that situation.

Rebuild? Not necessarily. There are SO many good pieces already on the roster. And a ton of cap space. And 12 draft picks.

You really don't think the Steelers couldn't put together a SB winning squad after watching Sam Darnold win a SB?
 
A #2 & #3 WR, a RB that offers power, a LT/LG to strengthen the OL.

An OC that understands the roster order of Friermuth over Jonnu Smith.

A HC that runs QB friendly schemes.

A rookie/1st year QB to learn under him.

I think Rodgers is perfectly fine in that situation.

Rebuild? Not necessarily. There are SO many good pieces already on the roster. And a ton of cap space. And 12 draft picks.

You really don't think the Steelers couldn't put together a SB winning squad after watching Sam Darnold win a SB?
Possibly. They will more importantly need to coach and develop and bring a fresh schematic approach on both sides of the ball.
 
Possibly. They will more importantly need to coach and develop and bring a fresh schematic approach on both sides of the ball.
If I'm a DC, I'm pretty excited to field Watt, Highsmith, Queen, Porter, Ramsey, Heyward, Benton , Harmon, Samuel Jnr, Herbig.... that's some significant pieces that you can use. A FA, some draft capitol...

Then you just need that O to be balanced. Kaleb Johnson is an important piece (or a rookie RB). I think Warren & Johnson gives a good versatility & allows the Steelers to get REGULAR yardage on early downs.

Loved what Gainwell did. But it's too much same-same. Give me a masher between the tackles to change the dynamic.
 
A #2 & #3 WR, a RB that offers power, a LT/LG to strengthen the OL.

An OC that understands the roster order of Friermuth over Jonnu Smith.

A HC that runs QB friendly schemes.

A rookie/1st year QB to learn under him.

I think Rodgers is perfectly fine in that situation.

Rebuild? Not necessarily. There are SO many good pieces already on the roster. And a ton of cap space. And 12 draft picks.

You really don't think the Steelers couldn't put together a SB winning squad after watching Sam Darnold win a SB?
We've been watching them try since 2008
 
Some of them yes. Not all of them. I don't see Pickett ever being more than a bench warmer along with a few others.

It’s a little different looking at the early guys (Darnold/Mayfield) that went to very bad teams like the Jets/Stains. These guys simply couldn’t be franchise saviors but are damn fine QBs for teams that aren’t a complete dumpster fire. They just needed a few years and some talent, something many QBs require.

And you’re right about KFP. There ain’t enough turd polish in the entire league to shine him up. He was simply over drafted by a desperate mediocre team.
 
Some of them yes. Not all of them. I don't see Pickett ever being more than a bench warmer along with a few others.
He should try to sign with the Rams or 49's to see if he can be developed. But I don't either. I honestly don't even see him as a legit QB2.
 
I have become of the opinion that whole thing was more Deuce than Tomlin. It may have been all Deuce. He's the only one who has said it out loud. Hear me out.

Tomlin resigns suddenly. I know about the rumors. But maybe after another playoff loss he goes to Art and says, "Hey, we gotta strip this down and rebuild it right because what we are doing isn't working." Art gives him the line about not wanting to waste a year and that he thinks they are close. Tomlin goes home, sleeps on it and decides he doesn't want more of the same and resigns. While not as fun as banging a bartender and getting her pregnant, it's plausible.
Could be. My thinking, apart from the alleged pregnant bartender, is that Deuce wasn’t happy with yet another first round playoff exit and told Shades we’ll wait and see about that option for 2027.
 
A #2 & #3 WR, a RB that offers power, a LT/LG to strengthen the OL.

An OC that understands the roster order of Friermuth over Jonnu Smith.

A HC that runs QB friendly schemes.

A rookie/1st year QB to learn under him.

I think Rodgers is perfectly fine in that situation.

Rebuild? Not necessarily. There are SO many good pieces already on the roster. And a ton of cap space. And 12 draft picks.

You really don't think the Steelers couldn't put together a SB winning squad after watching Sam Darnold win a SB?
Sure if you give any QB the Seahawks defense he will prosper.

I don’t think our defense will be a strength under McCarthy, I hope I’m wrong
 
There are unconfirmed reports that Aaron said he's ready to light this candle.
 
If they are completely gutting the team and starting over, then no, I don't want Rodgers back and he wouldn't want to come back.

If the Steelers plan is to go all in this offseason, then yes, I want Rodgers back. Outside of a couple of poor games, he played well overall last year in spite of the coaching handicap on that side of the ball. I'd be fine with Rodgers coming back next year if management plans to to go all in.

I don't know if going all in is wise at this point, I guess we will see what happens.

Many on here can't stand Rodgers and never have a good thing to say about him ever. However, he was by far the best thing the team had going on offense last year and it wasn't even close. The guy knows football and can still throw it 60 yards. I'd like to see him back playing with better receivers and more familiarity with the offense considering his ties with the team's new head coach.

I have zero desire to watch the team, as is, with Howard, or some rookie QB, behind center next year unless they are cleaning house. If that's their plan, then don't draft a QB during the first two days of the draft this year and go with Howard Wait for next season and a better draft pick depending on what Howard shows.
 
If they are completely gutting the team and starting over, then no, I don't want Rodgers back and he wouldn't want to come back.

If the Steelers plan is to go all in this offseason, then yes, I want Rodgers back. Outside of a couple of poor games, he played well overall last year in spite of the coaching handicap on that side of the ball. I'd be fine with Rodgers coming back next year if management plans to to go all in.

I don't know if going all in is wise at this point, I guess we will see what happens.

Many on here can't stand Rodgers and never have a good thing to say about him ever. However, he was by far the best thing the team had going on offense last year and it wasn't even close. The guy knows football and can still throw it 60 yards. I'd like to see him back playing with better receivers and more familiarity with the offense considering his ties with the team's new head coach.

I have zero desire to watch the team, as is, with Howard, or some rookie QB, behind center next year unless they are cleaning house. If that's their plan, then don't draft a QB during the first two days of the draft this year and go with Howard Wait for next season and a better draft pick depending on what Howard shows.
Go all in? This team is not even close to a contender. The beat 1 playoff team last year and that was early in the season when NE gave us the ball 6 times and we still almost lost. We looked ok playing the non playoff teams, Houston embarrassed us and they aren't a contender. That's been the issue around here, no one is willing to admit this team isn't close to contending, but we keep bringing these cast off QB's in here to scratch to 9 or 10 wins, draft in the mid 20's, then repeat the next season. He were are 5 years removed from Ben retiring and we are no closer now to having our next guy, than we were the day he retired.
 
A QB driven league and the Steelers haven’t addressed the position with any seriousness for almost a decade…aside from an abysmal KFP pick that should have never happened.

This team will not be in ANY danger of contention until they actually start to address the gigantic gaping void at the most important position.

Duct tape geriatric QBs ain’t an answer to anything except how to prolong mediocrity…aka Art’s standard.
 
Go all in? This team is not even close to a contender. The beat 1 playoff team last year and that was early in the season when NE gave us the ball 6 times and we still almost lost. We looked ok playing the non playoff teams, Houston embarrassed us and they aren't a contender. That's been the issue around here, no one is willing to admit this team isn't close to contending, but we keep bringing these cast off QB's in here to scratch to 9 or 10 wins, draft in the mid 20's, then repeat the next season. He were are 5 years removed from Ben retiring and we are no closer now to having our next guy, than we were the day he retired.
How many years was it between Bradshaw and Big Ben? It might be a while. But I agree, bringing in veterans that are aged out isn't getting this team closer to anything but the middle of the road. That's why I think it was more Art than Tomlin. Tomlin is gone, philosophy doesn't seem to be changing.
 
How many years was it between Bradshaw and Big Ben? It might be a while. But I agree, bringing in veterans that are aged out isn't getting this team closer to anything but the middle of the road. That's why I think it was more Art than Tomlin. Tomlin is gone, philosophy doesn't seem to be changing.
They atleast brought in an offensive mind at HC, that's a change, and I'm not against bringing a vet QB in here, but lets get one that isn't 43 years old that's afraid of contact and cant move. Get me a guy that feels like they have something to prove.
 
They atleast brought in an offensive mind at HC, that's a change, and I'm not against bringing a vet QB in here, but lets get one that isn't 43 years old that's afraid of contact and cant move. Get me a guy that feels like they have something to prove.
I agree a younger vet than Rodgers is better…if he fits McCarthys system, that’s why it might end up being Rodgers.

While I hated the hire because I don’t think McCarthy moves the needle towards a title based on his more recent past-McCarthy is here for better or worse.

We do have a defined, proven offensive style that McCarthy will implement, not every vet QB on the market will be able to run it.

Here’s hoping McCarthy thinks Howard can run his system and we see what we have in the kid next year

If we suck next year and it’s proven Howard isn’t the guy then we are high in the draft to get our QB next year
 
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Mitch Trubisky
Kenny Pickett
Mason Rudolph
Justin Fields
Russell Wilson
Aaron Rodgers

The list is starting to get Browns-like with different starters every year. I do like they haven't committed to a bad contract, but the trend of old guys isn't one to stick with.

We've gone 0-2 on former 1st-round reclamation projects. 0-1 on first-round picks. 0-2 on old former great QBs. Of course, this is the idea is no long-term answer and no playoff wins from any of these guys.

To be fair, if the front office/coaching staff doesn't believe in other UFA/trade options (Willis, Jones, etc.), I get why they'd want to keep Rodgers.
 
Mitch Trubisky
Kenny Pickett
Mason Rudolph
Justin Fields
Russell Wilson
Aaron Rodgers

The list is starting to get Browns-like with different starters every year. I do like they haven't committed to a bad contract, but the trend of old guys isn't one to stick with.

We've gone 0-2 on former 1st-round reclamation projects. 0-1 on first-round picks. 0-2 on old former great QBs. Of course, this is the idea is no long-term answer and no playoff wins from any of these guys.

To be fair, if the front office/coaching staff doesn't believe in other UFA/trade options (Willis, Jones, etc.), I get why they'd want to keep Rodgers.
I understand why they'd want it too, Rodgers and McCarthy are very familiar with each other, but together they have like 8 one and dones in the playoffs too.
 
Mitch Trubisky
Kenny Pickett
Mason Rudolph
Justin Fields
Russell Wilson
Aaron Rodgers

The list is starting to get Browns-like with different starters every year. I do like they haven't committed to a bad contract, but the trend of old guys isn't one to stick with.

We've gone 0-2 on former 1st-round reclamation projects. 0-1 on first-round picks. 0-2 on old former great QBs. Of course, this is the idea is no long-term answer and no playoff wins from any of these guys.

To be fair, if the front office/coaching staff doesn't believe in other UFA/trade options (Willis, Jones, etc.), I get why they'd want to keep Rodgers.
Mike had a whole year off to access and said that is exactly what he did. I would assume free agent QBs might be one of the look ats. If not he damn sure will be looking at it now as well as looking at the draft.

I agree if they see someone they like better than AR they will go that route.

Not sure they will find it as the class has some things to look at but perhaps not so desirable.

Hopefully he watches a lot of film, a lot and doesn’t drag his feet if AR isn’t signed by free agency.

That is my biggest concern waiting . They need to attack the position not wait around with the thumb up the anus.
 
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