What is Tomlin's record vs. 25% winning record teams or lower?

[Mavros]

You do know I'm reading the recaps of these games as you post and the stats doesn't mean he played well..particularly the chargers game. Where he also lost a fumble to go with that pick. The bucs game he is described as overthrowing WRs in the 4th

San Diego started 3 street free agents on the OLine that game and stoned our defense, sad.

 

[FAB802]

Someone posted this on my Facebook.

How bad has it been? Here are the gory details:
2009, Week 11: 6-3 Steelers lose to 2-7 Chiefs, 27-24. Line: Steelers -11.5
2009, Week 13: 6-5 Steelers lose to 3-8 Raiders, 27-24. Line: Steelers -15.0
2009, Week 14: 6-6 Steelers lose to 1-11 Browns, 13-6. Line: Steelers -10.0
2012, Week 3: 1-1 Steelers lose to 0-2 Raiders, 34-31. Line: Steelers -4.0
2012, Week 6: 2-2 Steelers lose to 1-4 Titans, 26-23. Line: Steelers -6.5
2012, Week 12: 6-4 Steelers lose to 2-8 Browns, 20-14. Line: Steelers -2.0
2012, Week 14: 7-4 Steelers lose to 4-8 Chargers, 34-24. Line: Steelers -7.5
2013, Week 4: 0-3 Steelers lose to 0-3 Vikings, 34-27. Line: Steelers -3.0
2013, Week 8: 2-4 Steelers lose to 2-4 Raiders, 21-18. Line: Steelers -2.5
2014, Week 4: 2-1 Steelers lose to 0-3 Buccaneers, 27-24. Line: Steelers -7.5
2014, Week 10: 6-3 Steelers lose to 1-8 Jets, 20-13. Line: Steelers -4.0
2014, Week 13: 7-4 Steelers lose to the 4-7 Saints, 35-32. Line: Steelers -3.5
2015, Week 16: 9-5 Steelers lose to the 4-10 Ravens, 20-10. Line: Steelers -10.0
2016, Week 6: 4-1 Steelers lose to the 1-4 Dolphins, 30-15. Line: Steelers -7.0

 

[Coryea]

You mean The Bucs game where Glennon threw all over us in the 4th qtr, but yeah that's on Ben

 

[Coryea]

Dude you asked for one game, I gave you 5 or 6.

 

[antdrewjosh]

You mean The Bucs game where Glennon threw all over us in the 4th qtr, but yeah that's on Ben

Yes the same game where Gerry Dulac gave him a C grade for the game

 

[antdrewjosh]

Dude you asked for one game, I gave you 5 or 6.

He is the franchise QB not many considered in the league and he is going against under 500 teams he should be 12 for 12 or how many games it's been. That's FRANCHISE. Especially when you are the focal point of the game plan as Ben has been for a while now

 

[Coryea]

Yes the same game where Gerry Dulac gave him a C grade for the game

29-40, for 350+, and 3 TD's and a 120+ qb rating, even with a lost fumble, in a game we let MIKE GLENNON throw for over 300 on us, and score 17 second half points, if you want to call that a bad game by Ben, that's fine, but he's way down the list on why we lost that

 

[Coryea]

You asked for one game, I gave you 5 or 6 and haven't even looked at all of them, and now you say he should be 12 for 12?

At least one of those games Batch played and threw 3 picks, so Ben didn't start them all

 

[antdrewjosh]

29-40, for 350+, and 3 TD's and a 120+ qb rating, even with a lost fumble, in a game we let MIKE GLENNON throw for over 300 on us, and score 17 second half points, if you want to call that a bad game by Ben, that's fine, but he's way down the list on why we lost that

The Bucs offense, with no Mike Evans, was still productive somehow. Mike Glennon pushed them right down the field with a couple of good third-down conversions, but the offense stalled in the red zone settling for a field goal to cut the Pittsburgh lead to 24-20. The defense stepped up once again, though mostly that was Steelers incompetence in overthrowing wide open receivers to give the Bucs the ball once again during the middle of the fourth quarter.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bucs...ittsburgh-27-24?client=ms-android-metropcs-us


Stats don't always tell the whole story

 

[blitzburghv5]

Folks here love to place blame on Tomlin..he's the easy scapegoat. Ben plays like Landry Schaub yet its gonna rest at the feet of Tomlin. If he drops back, throws an opening game INT or a high sailer that ricochets into the hands of a DB for pick 6 then its automatic poor preparation by the coach. And, we go from 4-1 to 4-2 in the span of a day and we are a horrible team to some here.

Whole lotta Chicken Little Syndrome here......sometimes i wonder if anyone's tears taste like lemonade.

 

[GMC]

Same month Bruce Gradkowski and the 3-8 raiders came here and beat our ***, Ben only missed 6 passes that day almost 300 yards with a 123 qb rating

You're not following the agenda. Put him on ignore and try teaching your dog French, it'd be less frustrating.

 

[antdrewjosh]

You asked for one game, I gave you 5 or 6 and haven't even looked at all of them, and now you say he should be 12 for 12?

At least one of those games Batch played and threw 3 picks, so Ben didn't start them all

Against sub 500 teams yes I would expect him to play that way in Damn near every game. Yes because if the other team is sub 500 then Ben is more then likely the best QB on the field.

 

[antdrewjosh]

You're not following the agenda. Put him on ignore and try teaching your dog French, it'd be less frustrating.

Why don't you try it

 

[Coryea]

You asked for ONE game, you asked the question, I gave you proof.

 

[Coach]

No use complaining. Rooney's wont do a damn thing about it.

Since 2009 Tomlin had lost 14 times to teams with a combined record under .200.

I'll list the scores and data later.

No quality coach has such a dubious distinction.

 

[antdrewjosh]

The San Diego game.

Rhythm disrupted by a relentless San Diego pass rush, Roethlisberger struggled early and the Steelers never recovered in a listless -- not to mention perplexing -- 34-24 loss on Sunday.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/game?gameId=321209023

The Steelers were losing 20-3 and then stats were padded..but read the recap Ben was not great

 

[Stainless]

Someone posted this on my Facebook.

How bad has it been? Here are the gory details:
2009, Week 11: 6-3 Steelers lose to 2-7 Chiefs, 27-24. Line: Steelers -11.5
2009, Week 13: 6-5 Steelers lose to 3-8 Raiders, 27-24. Line: Steelers -15.0
2009, Week 14: 6-6 Steelers lose to 1-11 Browns, 13-6. Line: Steelers -10.0
2012, Week 3: 1-1 Steelers lose to 0-2 Raiders, 34-31. Line: Steelers -4.0
2012, Week 6: 2-2 Steelers lose to 1-4 Titans, 26-23. Line: Steelers -6.5
2012, Week 12: 6-4 Steelers lose to 2-8 Browns, 20-14. Line: Steelers -2.0
2012, Week 14: 7-4 Steelers lose to 4-8 Chargers, 34-24. Line: Steelers -7.5
2013, Week 4: 0-3 Steelers lose to 0-3 Vikings, 34-27. Line: Steelers -3.0
2013, Week 8: 2-4 Steelers lose to 2-4 Raiders, 21-18. Line: Steelers -2.5
2014, Week 4: 2-1 Steelers lose to 0-3 Buccaneers, 27-24. Line: Steelers -7.5
2014, Week 10: 6-3 Steelers lose to 1-8 Jets, 20-13. Line: Steelers -4.0
2014, Week 13: 7-4 Steelers lose to the 4-7 Saints, 35-32. Line: Steelers -3.5
2015, Week 16: 9-5 Steelers lose to the 4-10 Ravens, 20-10. Line: Steelers -10.0
2016, Week 6: 4-1 Steelers lose to the 1-4 Dolphins, 30-15. Line: Steelers -7.0

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/t...eams-remains-terrible-after-loss-to-dolphins/

 

[antdrewjosh]

You asked for ONE game, you asked the question, I gave you proof.

Because I didn't remember any..Thank you..And after further investigation stats don't tell the whole story.

And against sub 500 teams should he have more??

 

[Coryea]

here's our last offensive drive before Tampa's winning drive.
1st down Bell for 2 up the middle.
2nd down false start on pounce, Ben pass complete to Wheaton for 8 yards.
3rd down Bell -2.
TB had 40 seconds and 0 timeouts left and went right down the field for the winner
He didn't miss any passes there
And the drive I'm assuming you're talking about, we still ran 4:30 off the clock.

 

[Coryea]

2015 New England lost to 4-7 Philly, Brady had a qb rating of 70, a sub .500 team, shouldn't the greatest QB ever have more?

 

[antdrewjosh]

2015 New England lost to 4-7 Philly, Brady had a qb rating of 70, a sub .500 team, shouldn't the greatest QB ever have more?

You damn right he should. You don't think so??

 

[Coryea]

You damn right he should. You don't think so??

Yep, but the point is EVERY QB has ****** games vs ****** teams not just Ben, and all the games I listed Ben had a qb rating of 90 or better, most in the 100's

 

[south dakota STEEL]

I don't care about rating....I care about wins. Not blaming one individual, blaming all....

 

[FAB802]

Our stud RB averaged over five yards a carry and barely touched the ball all day. When you know your defense is banged up and your opponent is bad against the run you run the damn ball. I thought Arians dumb *** was back today. Haley outsmarted them today didn't he?

 

[6Rings]

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