Actually I think it's Tibs or somebody who just likes to argue using a new screen name.
Tomlin and Haley's contract are up in 2016
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Actually I think it's Tibs or somebody who just likes to argue using a new screen name.
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This has been brought up before around here in many threads, but for those of us that have concerns with the way Colbert and Tomlin are leading this team and think change would possibly help, watching whether or not Tomlin gets a contract extension could be the #1 most important thing to happen this off-season.
Tomlin will get extended, bank on it. Two years of 8-8 sure, but this year was 11-5 and won the division so the arrow is pointing up, obviously, if you will. Everything else is popcorn and elevator music.
Tomlin was 2-0 in AFCC games with Cowher's players.
Cowher was 2-6 in AFCC games with Cowher's players.
Tomlin can't draft D
Cowher can't draft O
wash...rinse...repeat...
Cowher was 2-6 in AFCC games with Cowher's players.
Tomlin can't draft D
Cowher can't draft O
wash...rinse...repeat...
You made this entire post in Tomlinese, rather than English. Speak English or get the hell out of my country.
In 2003 (December 14) Coach Chin allowed Mike Mularkey to call 38 pass plays in a blizzard even though Hall of Fame RB Jerome Bettis averaged over 4 yards per carry (on 16 carries). Tommy Maddox completed only 16 of 38. Steelers lost 6-0. The Jets gave the ball to Curtis Martin 30 times. Coach Chin and Mularkey should both have been fired first thing Monday morning.
See how stupid this **** can get when you talk out of your ***?
True, I had forgotten about that game. I'd have been okay with firing both of them on Monday as well. Somehow Belicheat almost never has brain farts like that.
True, but I don't count the '01 and '04 losses to the Pats** because they were cheating. Besides, Shades would either have to be here for about 30 years before he'd get to 8 AFCCG's or the team would have to hire a GM who would tell him to STFU when it comes to draft day.
Who thinks Cowher made it to 8 AFC Championship Games? He won 2 and lost 4 (Chargers, Broncos, Pats x 2)
I was just going with the 2-6 record that Cope posted.
FWIW I still think the loss to the Chargers was the worst and most heartbreaking loss in Steelers history. Getting beat by Tebow the last time he set foot on a NFL field is only #2 in my book.
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Gonna stop you right there
I don't agree with this premise. If your goal is to win Super Bowls and you think you have reached a place where you can't get it done with your current guy, you get rid of him regardless of who is on your wish list. Nothing is guaranteed anyway, so you might have options "in mind" but you don't make decisions based on "options" you have "in mind".
Then what does Cowher have to do with anything? He hasn't been our coach for 8 years, so as far as I'm concerned, what he did or didn't accomplish has nothing to do with what Tomlin can accomplish moving forward. Is a company's stock price based on how the CEO does compared to the last guy? Not at all.
People who don't like it when someone is critical of MT usually have to bring up something about Cowher too as a matter of defense. It's the same principle as pointing out something about Bush when someone is critical of Bomma or bringing up The Crusades when someone is critical of Islam. It doesn't bother me but I do get tired of repeating myself.
Recap:
1. Tomlin is at best an average coach. 8-8 to 10-6 with the annual playoff loss (when he gets into the playoffs) is sort of his natural state. I don't necessarily mean that as a slam, it's just who he is and what you get. We've been conditioned to expect better but I'd still take him over anyone that Cleveland would hire.
2. Other than WR's and RB's, he can't draft for ****. If ownership is going to keep Colbert then they need to send MT on a long vacation to the Himalayas searching for the Yeti at draft time with no computer and no cell phone.
Nice to see I haven't missed anything lol.
Meh, the off-season sucks.
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Its the favorite topic of discussion....religion, politics, **** and *** and Tomlin. Not necessarily in that order
If they were cheating in 01, we were still good enough to beat them. It came down to being out coached on special teams. Bellicheck noticed our punt team gunner out of bounds, notified the refs, and we were called for it. Rekick = Punt return TD. We were good enough to win that game with or without cheating, and we should have won it.
Good catch it's 2/6 vs 2/2. So Tomlin has to win his next AFCC game to get above Cowher.
i agree .. the offense is good but we have no defense , we have 2 good players (heiward timmons ) tuitt that could be good and a bunch of soft guys with belowe average talent
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Fluck you you, your LUCKY i didn't speak my patented "comma's" English !!!!!! (j/k)
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Barry Switzer won a super bowl with Jimmy's players, just like Tomlin won a super bowl with Bill's players.
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In addition, Tomlin record vs sub .500 teams is much worse. Bill was stuck with Tomzack, Stewart and Graham at QB for years and still had good records. If Tomlin had to play these guys at QB, he would have losing seasons.
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Tomlin benefited from an easy schedule ( Still lost to the Jets and Bucs ), and no major injuries to key players. 2015's schedileis much harder. We still have a draft, free agency and camp, but if I had to make a call on the prediction right now I would say 7-9 or 8-8. No playoff wins again = Time for a change.
Where was the 2nd superbowl for Switzer? I must have missed it. Also he had a great 4 year career.
Also who here has ever made the argument that Jon Gruden could only win a superbowl with Tony Dungy's players? No one. Why? Because they are poor arguments.
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There wasn't. By that time Jimmy's players aged. My point is you can have a monkey on a race horse, and he can win a super bowl IF he has great players with veteran leadership. Switzer was dumb as rocks.
Another example is Seifert who won with Bill Walsh players.
Five years with no playoff wins? un-acceptable. Out of curiosity, if the Steelers can't win a playoff game this year and finish 7-9 to 8-8, are you for a head coaching change?
Cowher took over a team that had not won a playoff game in years and made then winners. Tomlin inherited a great team and once they aged, we saw what type of coach he is.