Not bitter at all. You said that Rooney likes to hold on to HCs, and Flores has too many concerns for him to do that.
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Basically what I was getting at is I didn’t want to get stuck with another mediocre product. I am not convinced Rooney wouldn’t do it again.
So I prefer the new head coach to not have multiple things that give us pause. So that we wouldn’t see The Playoff drought the decade long sequel.
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I want a young offensive mind for HC.
Appreciate the research. I guess I will waste some time...lol.
So O'Shea left and took the WR coach position with the Browns, and has remained there since. He's now 53 years old. Maybe Flores thought he had potential, then realized he'd made a mistake. It's clear that no other team has had enough interest in O'Shea to hire him.
Gailey might have had health issues, or maybe he came back and decided after a year that he was just done with coaching. Who knows?
I don't mind some abrasiveness in my head coach, and Flores was right about Herbert. @slashsteel may have a point that Rooney might not want to deal with a potentially abrasive HC.
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You sir win the internet for the day. Well played.
I like how you tend to ignore all of the circumstances I point out which discredit your argument, then keep on saying the same thing. The Dolphins had only finished above .500 once in the prior ten years before Flores took over. He had two winning records in his three seasons there. Is that not progress?
I am smart enough to know that usually 10-6 got a team into the playoffs. But it just so happened to not be the case in 2020 in the AFC. NFC teams with records of 10-6 and 7-9 both made it that year. Hard to win a playoff game if they don't allow you to play in one.
That was one season hence he was partially to blame as there was 5 other seasons . Will you try to sell me that all of those wasn’t his fault as well? Or that he doesn’t share the blame? I know you know he does.
I never ignored any of your mentions they just never completely abolished him of blame.
Progress is winning something beyond the regular season. That is why they play the game.
Not for Tomlinisms but for playoff victories and the hope for something even greater.
Anything less just isn’t good enough and I just do not want a repeat of the decade long anguish Mike brought to the table.
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That rams mess letting Chicago drive right down the field and tie the game was something the Steelers did even when Tomlin was winning! Big no on Shula!! The thing is it’s easier to find defensive coordinators than it is offensive coordinators! Going back to cowher Steelers had problems scoring the ball! My kids have never seen a Steeler offense that ran the Steeler trap and just dominated other teams always hit and miss even with Ben! Can we please sign an offensive guy?
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Not Flores! The fans deserve a fresh start! We had 19 years of 13-9 games! We have 2 generations of fans that have never seen the Steeler trap!! Time for offense! How many teams have sent the fullback, quarterback, center, both WRs to the HOF!?!? And had guys like fuqua, rocky, frank Lewis, Big Ben, Meryl, on and on? We can find defense coordinators… Larry Foote doing a great job for Tampa bay better than Tomlin did here!
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Am I alone in my disbelief of Art Rooney's ability to hire the right head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers? Mr. Dan Rooney, God rest his soul, hired two legendary, Hall of Fame coaches who were the right type of coach for those eras. Noll was a stoic genius, and tough as nails. Cowher was an emotional and motivational hardnosed coach, perfect for the 90's - 2000's football. I don't trust that Art has his finger on what it takes to win in today's NFL. God, I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it in him.
I have already posted my concerns and so have a few others so you are not alone.
The good thing is Omar will be involved in the process too. As a young GM he should welcome a fresh bright minded room it could very well shorten his stay (with a safe coach with little growth potential) or lengthen his stay. So he would be wise to not only evaluate who is available but strongly push for a head coach with the most upside not a head coach that just a safe hire that can get you some wins and call it a day.
So as I have little faith in Art I have some faith Omar will push for a young bright minded head coach…
I guess we will see ultimately by who the hire is.
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Art knows what it takes to win in today's NFL. And it starts with hiring a Black head coach. Some on this board are more worried about getting a White guy then they are with winning.
Mark my words, the next time we hoist a Lombardi trophy is when it is being held aloft by the steady Black hands of a great head coach.
@stuntmanmike I had the exact same thought watching that defensive debacle down the stretch. I was very very high on Shula prior to yesterday's game, because I believe Art II hiring an offensive minded coach is a pipe dream. Sefanski is gone, Minter is going to be gone.
Another funny thing, somewhat related, I heard an interview with Bisciotti (Ravens owner) over the weekend. He mentioned for their HC interviews it will be an 'all day' event, with that candidate meeting several different people, teams, and departments. I started thinking about 'virtual' interviews with coaches that are in the playoffs. What exactly is that 'shortened' virtual interview producing? I think it produces an CYA for the Steelers front office to say, "look, we intereviewed all of these talented football people".
But are they are really? Is Art 2 and Omar REALLY looking or have they already made up their mind??
To my points:
STEELERS HEAD COACH CANDIDATES INTERVIEWED / CONFIRMED INTEREST
- Los Angeles Rams Defensive Coordinator Chris Shula
- (virtual interview Jan. 16)
- Los Angeles Rams Passing Game Coordinator Nate Scheelhaase
- (virtual interview Jan. 16)
- Los Angeles Chargers Defensive Coordinator Jesse Minter
- (virtual interview Jan. 17)
- Minnesota Vikings Defensive Coordinator Brian Flores
- (in-person interview scheduled for Jan. 20)
- Miami Dolphins Defensive Coordinator Anthony Weaver
- (virtual interview complete, in-person interview scheduled week of Jan. 19)
- Carolina Panthers Defensive Coordinator Ejiro Evero
- Green Bay Packers Defensive Coordinator Jeff Hafley
- (virtual interview Jan. 17)
- San Francisco 49ers Offensive Coordinator Klay Kubiak
- (virtual interview Jan. 18)
- Former Dallas Cowboys, Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy
- (in-person interview scheduled week of Jan. 19)
It appears it is down to two individuals. very sad
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is this sarcasm? I can't tell. Personally, I just hope they hire the right guy and leads the team into a direction we can be proud of and is competitive for a long time.
I highly hope this isn’t the case. It is a colossal failure if it turns out this way.
Looked like sarcasm.
There is interest in Joe Brady, the OC for Buffalo, who has worked with Josh Allen the last 2 years. Allen has given him high praise for his energy and work ethic. I don't see an interview with the Steelers, though.
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Sean McDermott just became available. Ryan Clark is going to be very confused lol
just saw that. Not surprised, I guess.
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The two Rams coaches they can't do an in-person interview yet, because they are still tied up in the playoffs, and Klay Kubiak has only just become available for in-person interview, as well as only just completed his virtual interview, so probably haven't yet had an opportunity to schedule an in-person interview with Kubiak yet.
The Steelers are also required to do in-person interviews with two minority candidates, which might be part of the reason they have Weaver and/or Flores lined up if their preferred candidate is Shula or Kubiak.
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Looked like ignorant drivel to me. But, to each his own
Stirring the pot, are ya?