P
POP
Guest
If I bother to analyze, I am sure lots of teams have better back ups than Jones and Grad. Bottom line, if Ben is out, this is a .500 team at best with those two bums.
Steelers sign Gradkowski to one year deal
- Thread starter Steelerfan81
- Start date
If I bother to analyze, I am sure lots of teams have better back ups than Jones and Grad. Bottom line, if Ben is out, this is a .500 team at best with those two bums.
P
POP
Guest
Normally, I'd agree, but this is the Steelers. We know how they operate. Odds are, we ARE looking at our entire QB unit, as is, right now. As someone else mentioned, odd how other teams can sign a new QB and within a week or 2, they are up to speed enough to run the offense. Why do ONLY the Steelers think you need YEARS for players to "get the system down" on both sides of the ball????????????????????????
well, maybe if our QBs' communication systems didnt turn off as required, unlike those of your familiarity in the upper north east
P
POP
Guest
Well, I don't know if that is an indictment on the Ravens O or on our D of 2015. Sad fact is, the 5-step-back-throw-deep-and-hope was all they needed to beat us. Losing that 2nd game to the, as we were fighting for our playoff lives, was really pathetic. How many other teams did they beat all year? Three?
BEST EVER!!!.....makes me lol
I was hoping for Hoyer as a back up though
He's a better option than the 2 from last year at least.
As long as he still has an arm. I like Gradkowski. Pittsburgh guy. Fun demeanor. But the Steelers need a quality backup at the QB position. Ben is not getting any younger and with his style of play, he really took a beating early in his career. Steelers have a couple of championship runs in them with Ben at the helm. Tomlin and his crew need to play their cards right
- Joined
- Apr 21, 2014
- Messages
- 13,588
- Reaction score
- 18,647
- Points
- 113
Here's the list of NFL QBs. Go ahead and find me these awesome backups all these other teams have. Gradkowski and Landry are better than most.
<tbody>
[TD="width: 188"]Taylor, Tyrod U/Bal[/TD]
[TD="width: 190"]Manuel, EJ 13/1[/TD]
[TD="width: 184"]Jones, Cardale 16/4[/TD]
</tbody>
| Buf | |||
| Mia | Tannehill, Ryan 12/1 | MOORE, MATT U/Car | Doughty, Brandon 16/7 |
| NE | BRADY, TOM 00/6 | Garoppolo, Jimmy 14/2 | Brissett, Jacoby 16/3 |
| Jets | Smith, Geno 13/2 | Petty, Bryce 15/4 | Hackenberg, Christian 16/2 |
| Balt | FLACCO, JOE 08/1 | Mallett, Ryan SF15 | Johnson, Jerrod SF16 |
| Cincy | Dalton, Andy 11/2 | McCarron, AJ 14/5 | Wenning, Keith SF15 |
| Clev | MCCOWN, JOSH CC/TB | Griffin, Robert U/Was | Kessler, Cody 16/3 |
| Pit | ROETHLISBERGER, BEN 04/1 | GRADKOWSKI, BRUCE U/Cin | Jones, Landry 13/4 |
| Hou | Osweiler, Brock U/Den | Savage, Tom 14/4 | WEEDEN, BRANDON W/Dal |
| Ind | Luck, Andrew 12/1 | Tolzien, Scott U/GB | Morris, Stephen P/Phi |
| Jax | Bortles, Blake 14/1 | HENNE, CHAD U/Mia | Allen, Brandon 16/6 |
| Ten | Mariota, Marcus 15/1 | Mettenberger, Zach 14/6 | CASSEL, MATT U/Dal |
| Den | Sanchez, Mark T/Phi | Siemian, Trevor 15/7 | Lynch, Paxton 16/1 |
| KC | SMITH, ALEX T/SF | Murray, Aaron 14/5 | Hogan, Kevin 16/5 |
| Oak | Carr, Derek 14/2 | McGloin, Matt CF13 | Cook, Connor 16/4 |
| SD | RIVERS, PHILIP T/NYG | CLEMENS, KELLEN U/SL | Renner, Bryn SF16 |
| Dal | ROMO, TONY CF03 | Moore, Kellen SF15 | Prescott, Dak 16/4 |
| NYG | MANNING, ELI T/SD | Nassib, Ryan 13/4 | Kinne, GJ SF15 |
| Phi | Bradford, Sam T/SL | Daniel, Chase U/KC | Wentz, Carson 16/1 |
| Was | Cousins, Kirk 12/4 | McCoy, Colt U/SF | Sudfeld, Nate 16/6 |
| Chi | CUTLER, JAY T/Den | HOYER, BRIAN SF16 | Fales, David 14/6 |
| Det | Stafford, Matthew 09/1 | ORLOVSKY, DAN 05/5 | Rudock, Jake 16/6 |
| GB | RODGERS, AARON 05/1 | Hundley, Brett 15/5 | Williams, Ryan SF16 |
| Min | Bridgewater, Teddy 14/1 | HILL, SHAUN U/SL | Heinicke, Taylor CF15 |
| Atl | RYAN, MATT 08/1 | SCHAUB, MATT U/Bal | Renfree, Sean 13/7 |
| Car | Newton, Cam 11/1 | ANDERSON, DEREK CC/Arz | Webb, Joe U/Min |
| NO | BREES, DREW U/SD | MCCOWN, LUKE U/Atl | Grayson, Garrett 15/3 |
| TB | Winston, Jameis 15/1 | Glennon, Mike 13/3 | Griffin, Ryan W/NO |
| Ariz | PALMER, CARSON T/Oak | STANTON, DREW U/Ind | Barkley, Matt T/Phi |
| Rams | Foles, Nick T/Phi | Goff, Jared 16/1 | Mannion, Sean 15/3 |
| SF | Gabbert, Blaine T/Jax | Kaepernick, Colin 11/2 | Lewis, Thaddeus U/Phi |
| Sea | Wilson, Russell 12/3 | Heaps, Jake SF16 |
<tbody>
[TD="width: 188"]Taylor, Tyrod U/Bal[/TD]
[TD="width: 190"]Manuel, EJ 13/1[/TD]
[TD="width: 184"]Jones, Cardale 16/4[/TD]
</tbody>
I have no idea what it is that people see in Gradkowski, even as a backup. The guy sucks. First of all, he's a loser. He's 6-14 as a starter. He's got a career QB rating of 65.8, absolutely horrendous for this era. His completion percentage of 52.9% is downright embarrassing. His YPA of 5.7 is laughable, and that number wouldn't even have smelled the bottom of the list of qualifying quarterbacks in 2015 (Nick Foles was #34 and last on the list at 6.1).
It would be a lot easier to tell you who I WOULDN'T take from your list before this clown. In fact, I'd take the two rookies in Seattle (Adams and Boykin) in a heartbeat before Gradkowski, and they're not even on your depth chart. At least there's a chance they might one day amount to something other than a pile of **** who is somehow still collecting an NFL paycheck.
It would be a lot easier to tell you who I WOULDN'T take from your list before this clown. In fact, I'd take the two rookies in Seattle (Adams and Boykin) in a heartbeat before Gradkowski, and they're not even on your depth chart. At least there's a chance they might one day amount to something other than a pile of **** who is somehow still collecting an NFL paycheck.
not that it matters a whole lot, but Keenum is the #1 for the Rams, not Foles (at least until Goff takes over)
- Joined
- Oct 28, 2014
- Messages
- 14,560
- Reaction score
- 12,479
- Points
- 113
I see him as a vet with some experience that can come in a win us a game or two if Ben goes down for a game or two or three. Maybe four. As far as his numbers.....I am willing to be bet/hope with his current team he will be able to put up some better numbers than those teams he compiled his career stats from. Not too many QB's have winning records from any of those teams in the same time frame that he has been playing. So while you might want to throw all your chips in on a rookie QB on a SB caliber team if our star QB happens to go down for a bit of time. I will go with Grad. A Vet with bad stats from horrible teams.
I think the reason why we like Grad, is he does really well in preseason games and training camp. With the talent on this team, you don't have to be a great QB to be successful and get wins. Just ask Vick and Landry.
While there is some value to a veteran presence, I believe Landry Jones (now in his fourth season with the Steelers) qualifies with enough experience to come in and win a game or two. He showed as much last year.
Gradkowski's numbers in the season he started 11 games were dwarfed by Tim Rattay's:
Completion % 60.4 vs 54.0
YPA 7.4 vs 5.1
TD:INT ratio 2:1 vs 1:1
QB Rating 88.2 vs 65.9
Record 1-1 vs 3-8
Tim ******* Rattay.
In Gradkowski's "best" season, he did manage to compile a whopping 80.6 rating and outperform JaMarcus Russell, one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. And that was thanks in large part to the anamolous game he had against the Steelers, which I suppose is what everybody around here chooses to remember.
Last edited:
P
POP
Guest
At least half of those teams have better backups. Jones is flat out just awful. If it weren't for the Steelers need to protect their ego, he'd be out of this league. Bruce is a career joke. We might as well still have Leftwich and Batch as our back ups.
If Landry is not the starter this year, I'm going to be pissed! **** Ben! Landry deserves to start!
- Joined
- Apr 21, 2014
- Messages
- 13,588
- Reaction score
- 18,647
- Points
- 113
I'm not sold on Landry either and that is why Gradkowski is necessary. A veteran who knows the system is an absolute need.
Go ahead. instead of just saying half are better, throw out the specific name that the steelers should have somehow acquired this year instead of Gradkowski
Gradkowski has 20 starts under his belt. You can't just discount that. He has played well in this league in real games. Most of that list has no starts.
The steelers did want to draft a QB this year but it didn't happen. If they drafted one, i think they would have traded Landry away and signed Grad as a veteran.
- Joined
- Oct 28, 2014
- Messages
- 14,560
- Reaction score
- 12,479
- Points
- 113
Nope. Landry would of been the back up and Grad would not of been resigned. Colbert said as much in an interview on SN radio right before the draft. And if Landry sucks as much as everyone says who would of traded for him?
- Joined
- Apr 8, 2014
- Messages
- 9,394
- Reaction score
- 6,217
- Points
- 113
Landry stank it up though. He had a promising game against AZ then gradually declined after
He doesn't break the budget and can manage a game. That's all