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Steelers select Dri Archer in Round 3

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here is Dri celebrating being selected in the third round higher than some could imagine....

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oh what a glorious day that was a glorious day indeed....
 
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Vader said:
Seriously? You can't read the thread and know what "you people" is in reference too?
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Is this your definition???

Tibs said:
Not sure which one of our distinguished members this is, caught on camera as the Dri Archer pick came in....

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Is it Tech or Vader???

steelerscotty said:
5 more pages to go . . .
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The shortest, fastest player to never play a down in the history of the Steelers get's 94 pages dedicated to his existence. Awesome...

I'll do EVERYTHING I can to get this thread to triple digits...
 
Idioteque said:
Ben is a very oft-injured player. He plays for the Steelers. Thus ends the short-lived Ben/Archer comparison.

I'm not afraid of a few injuries. Dom Easley was one of my favorite prospects and the dude tore both ACLs. But Ben is a HOF QB, so his injuries ding his scouting report less to me than Archer's. And if he'd entered the league with Archer's injury history, I'd have been worried.
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So when did Ben get inducted to the hall of fame?
 
Drink IRON City said:
You could be tagged a nut case for this comment. Holding someone responsible. Get real, Archer is the ONLY responsible one there is. He will be solely responsible, if we win the Super Bowl, then again, he'll also be solely responsible, if we don't.


Salute the nation
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Honestly, I thought it was my fault.
 
I take sole responsibility for this thread
 
Holy crap almost 100 pages for a freaken third round pick... that's just absurd... I don't think he was a good pick but even if he don't play a single snap for us he isn't worth 100 pages
 
**** that!!! Archer Archer Archer Archer Archer!!!
 
if Idioteque and Archer got into a slap fight...
 
Ideoteque wouldnt engage in a slap fight. Didnt he say that he played trumpet.
 
CorpusDsteelers said:
Someone should list all the players under 185 lbs and their injuries the last 5 years I'm too lazy but seems like a lot / most get injuried less that our franchise QB !!!
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Seriously stop trying to compare Ben and Archer's injury history. First and foremost, Ben's injuries have come at the NFL level, while Archer has yet to play a down. Second, the injuries Ben has suffered would probably have killed Archer. Ben's skill is also not predicated on his speed, he's a QB. A QB that likes to hold the ball more than most and take hits that most QB's can only dream of jumping back up from. It's more absurd than comparing apples to oranges...
 
if I'm not mistaken, Idioteque was saying that 4 injuries is a "**** ton"
so if a "**** ton" is 4, then Ben is surely dead by now.
 
ark steel said:
Honestly, I thought it was my fault.
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There is a difference between FAULT and RESPONSIBILITY. Ask Ike Tayler, when he has no deep help. Hard to imagine this thread being your fault, but you definitely have a responsibility to it. As with all of us, whom have contributed in one form or another, the thread must show the responsible character of us all. Did Archer fade, when the germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Did Archer quit, when hurricane Sandy took out California? Isn't Archer still available, even though Obama is president? Well its time to stand up, make useful the tools that you have, hug your girlfriend (or even someone else's). Stand Tall or Short, write the solid or week post, but most of all, be PROUD that you, as an individual have been responsible !!!!




Salute the natiomn
 
insaniti said:
Seriously stop trying to compare Ben and Archer's injury history. First and foremost, Ben's injuries have come at the NFL level, while Archer has yet to play a down. Second, the injuries Ben has suffered would probably have killed Archer. Ben's skill is also not predicated on his speed, he's a QB. A QB that likes to hold the ball more than most and take hits that most QB's can only dream of jumping back up from. It's more absurd than comparing apples to oranges...
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Favre says shut the **** up, Ben is a *****. :) Listen, you can't have it both ways, Ben HAS been injury prone, I can deal with that, but for ***** sake, he is BIG BEN, he's damn near the same ******* size as the guys tackling him. Then you have Ward, who just got up after just about every hit. Here is a hint, Ward isn't as 'BIG' as Ben, and he also took some monster ******* hits.

We'll know soon enough how Archer does in the NFL.

Joe
 
t-man said:
Favre says shut the **** up, Ben is a *****. :) Listen, you can't have it both ways, Ben HAS been injury prone, I can deal with that, but for ***** sake, he is BIG BEN, he's damn near the same ******* size as the guys tackling him. Then you have Ward, who just got up after just about every hit. Here is a hint, Ward isn't as 'BIG' as Ben, and he also took some monster ******* hits.

We'll know soon enough how Archer does in the NFL.

Joe
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Here's a hint, Ben wasn't injured in college. Ben plays QB, he touches the ball on every offensive snap. Archer is not Ben, has ALREADY been injured and missed significant time in COLLEGE. THAT is the point. Want to compare injury histories? Find a player that was hurt as often as Archer was (per touch) IN COLLEGE... maybe even in a similar position, not a franchise QB of an NFL team.
 
t-man said:
Favre says shut the **** up, Ben is a *****. :) Listen, you can't have it both ways, Ben HAS been injury prone, I can deal with that, but for ***** sake, he is BIG BEN, he's damn near the same ******* size as the guys tackling him. Then you have Ward, who just got up after just about every hit. Here is a hint, Ward isn't as 'BIG' as Ben, and he also took some monster ******* hits.

We'll know soon enough how Archer does in the NFL.

Joe
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Hines combine numbers just for comparison sake 5115 195 40 in 4.55. Hines is much bigger than Archer but played like he was even bigger. I remember a conversation about Hines after he successfully blocked a defensive end on a run play. The announcers were talking about how the next week in the film room that particular player would be really catching hell from the team when they ran that play in the film room because he was taken out by a wide receiver.

If Archer plays along similar lines ( plays bigger than he is, lets hope) he could be a real find. If not well we were only out a third round comp pick and based on what went in front of our pick I did not see any players that were lots better than what else was available. It seemed like all of them had holes in their game and were going to be projects at this point to one degree or another.
 
insaniti said:
Here's a hint, Ben wasn't injured in college. Ben plays QB, he touches the ball on every offensive snap. Archer is not Ben, has ALREADY been injured and missed significant time in COLLEGE. THAT is the point. Want to compare injury histories? Find a player that was hurt as often as Archer was (per touch) IN COLLEGE... maybe even in a similar position, not a franchise QB of an NFL team.
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How about I compare Favre to Ben? They were both franchise qb's, and even though Ben wasn't injured in college, sure seems like he did get hurt in the pros. I am comparing apples to apples. Peyton Manning, had years and years of starting without injury. Ben is injury prone.

I don't know if Archer will be or not, since he hasn't played a ******* game yet.

Seems that even though Ben was not injured, he has been in the NFL, Heath Miller wasn't taken earlier due to his "Injury" yet that seems to have worked out ok for us.

Joe
 
Plans for Archer maybe

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2014/06/steelers-film-room-antonio-brown-decoy/
 
antdrewjosh said:
Plans for Archer maybe
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Follow-up article - Big Ben talking about his newest tool in the toolkit, the one-and-only golden flash Dri Archer.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2014/06/roethlisberger-likes-hes-seen-far-archer/
 
t-man said:
ARE didn't throw a lot of passes, but one of them went for a touchdown in a SuperBowl. I'd say if the kid does what is asked of him when he gets on the field, then I'd expect he's doing what's asked of him. When Rainey was here we had ******* Redman and Dwyer, we now have Bell and Blount, I doubt he's going to see the backfield carries Rainey did.
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I honestly believe, fumbles aside, that Haley was not creative enough to use Rainey, and perhaps now Archer, unless he changes his plays/sets. If you take out your starting RB for the first time in 6 plays and put Rainey behind the QB, chances are the defense knows, my ******* grandmother knows, this play is more than likely either a run or a pass to who? you guessed it Rainey.

Now if you had a package where you had both Archer and Bell, or Archer and Blount in the backfield together....now there would be a difficult situation for the defense, at least there is "some" element of doubt where the hell the ball is going.

deljzc said:
So he's going to get LESS offensive touches than Rainey?

I might consider the pick a failure if just that happens (unless his production is extraordinary). My problem is now the production of Archer has to almost be this extraordinary to yield above average results on the investment. He has to produce a lot on very limited opportunities.

Not sure I think that is fair to him yet the Steelers kind of brought this on themselves.

People forget we were already one of the best punt return teams in the league last year (A. Brown getting the majority). We had a 12.8 average and 1 TD (league average was 9.4 and less than 0.5 TD's). I doubt Archer is really going to improve that statistic vs. a year ago.

We should get better at kick returns (we were 1 yard below average), but how much when we are only talking 40 kick returns a year anyhow.

The positives of Archer just aren't adding up to me unless he's getting pretty significant touches on offense (and that means possibly Blount isn't going to be used as much as we think and will split time with Archer).
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If Archer can field punts, I will be much more acceptable of this, just for the value of not putting AB at risk. And Archer should be able to at least match what AB did with Punt Returns, provided he can actually field punts without muffing them. I would feel much better if AB did not have to field punts any longer...but the last few years he was our ONLY option. Hopefully Dri can change that.
 
Jeffro said:
If Archer can field punts, I will be much more acceptable of this, just for the value of not putting AB at risk. And Archer should be able to at least match what AB did with Punt Returns, provided he can actually field punts without muffing them. I would feel much better if AB did not have to field punts any longer...but the last few years he was our ONLY option. Hopefully Dri can change that.
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Agreed. AB has pretty much said he doesn't want to return punts anymore, and that was pretty obvious last season every time AB fair caught a punt even though there was 15 yards of empty grass ahead of him.
 
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