Steelers Personnel Pro Day Appearances

[ianv2012]

Not very likely Waynes will still be available at the steelers pick. RB Langford ran one of the fastest 40 times so he will likely be gone too before the steelers are ready to draft a RB.

Tony Lippett WR/CB - this guy could be someone they like. He was mainly a WR but also played CB. Kind of like Richard Sherman coming out of Stanford. Lippett is not real fast so he'd likely be a mediocre WR, but as a CB he'd be a big, physical CB with ball skills. Good for a zone defense. He'd make a great later round pick. Hopefully as the second CB prospect the steelers draft.

Marcus Rush DE/OLB - played DE at MSU but he did LB drills at pro day. Probably his best bet to be a 3-4 OLB.

Interesting that Tomlin would go to the MSU pro day when the big ticket items Waynes and Langford seem unlikely to be available. They would have to trade up for Waynes. And Langford would have to fall to the 3rd or 4th round. I can't see them drafting a RB any higher than that.

Maybe this is a year the steelers move up for Waynes. They have depth. They need impact players. They need to get either a quality pass rush OLB or a real starting CB in the first. They may have to trade up to make that happen.

that's possible, but I also read this on ESPN's blog:

"Running back Le'Veon Bell is the only Michigan State player that the Steelers have drafted since Tomlin joined the organization in 2007. But Tomlin told Spartans coach Mark Dantonio that East Lansing has become a must stop during the pre-draft process."
http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/12902/mike-tomlin-kevin-colbert-among-steelers-representatives-at-michigan-state-pro-day

So it may just be this is a yearly stop for Tomlin and Colbert regardless, but you never know.

 

[ianv2012]

Steelers dine with Pass Rusher Shane Ray the night before Missouri pro day. Colbert and Tomlin both in attendance at Mizzou pro day.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/03/steelers-dine-with-shane-ray-prior-to-mizzou-pro-day/

UPDATE: Porter and Butler also at Missouri pro day. The Steelers dined with both Shane Ray and Marcus Golden.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/03/steelers-colbert-tomlin-butler-porter-all-present-for-missouri-pro-day/

 

[ianv2012]

Steelers Todd Haley and Mike Munchak present at Penn State pro day

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/03/steelers-haley-munchak-present-at-penn-state-pro-day/

 

[bermudasteel]

Not very likely Waynes will still be available at the steelers pick. RB Langford ran one of the fastest 40 times so he will likely be gone too before the steelers are ready to draft a RB.

Tony Lippett WR/CB - this guy could be someone they like. He was mainly a WR but also played CB. Kind of like Richard Sherman coming out of Stanford. Lippett is not real fast so he'd likely be a mediocre WR, but as a CB he'd be a big, physical CB with ball skills. Good for a zone defense. He'd make a great later round pick. Hopefully as the second CB prospect the steelers draft.

Marcus Rush DE/OLB - played DE at MSU but he did LB drills at pro day. Probably his best bet to be a 3-4 OLB.

Interesting that Tomlin would go to the MSU pro day when the big ticket items Waynes and Langford seem unlikely to be available. They would have to trade up for Waynes. And Langford would have to fall to the 3rd or 4th round. I can't see them drafting a RB any higher than that.

Maybe this is a year the steelers move up for Waynes. They have depth. They need impact players. They need to get either a quality pass rush OLB or a real starting CB in the first. They may have to trade up to make that happen.

Don't you have a friend from Bermuda that suggested this two months ago???

 

[Wingman]

Even if initially they do not think the players will be there when they draft they may be looking at history as a guide. In the past players have fallen to them that they did not know a great deal about but they took them anyway. It might mean they are going to do more due diligence on players they do not expect to see so that if one does drop they will know if they wish to let him continue to drop or pick them up.

I am not sure if spindenfal qualifies as one of these guys or not but I think there might have been players they would have taken instead if they had looked at them closer, might also be limas sweed in this group. I am just going by some comments partially remembered at the time regarding these guys not expected to be there, and the following comments about who would have been much better.

I do not expect these guys that are involved in the draft for the steelers to ever say they would rather of had so and so instead of who we got. But they may discuss things like that among themselves and decided to look at everyone in say the top 100 or so on their draft board in much greater detail than in the past. It may not improve the draft but it could be a step in the right direction.

 

[insaniti]

Even if initially they do not think the players will be there when they draft they may be looking at history as a guide. In the past players have fallen to them that they did not know a great deal about but they took them anyway. It might mean they are going to do more due diligence on players they do not expect to see so that if one does drop they will know if they wish to let him continue to drop or pick them up.

I am not sure if spindenfal qualifies as one of these guys or not but I think there might have been players they would have taken instead if they had looked at them closer, might also be limas sweed in this group. I am just going by some comments partially remembered at the time regarding these guys not expected to be there, and the following comments about who would have been much better.

I do not expect these guys that are involved in the draft for the steelers to ever say they would rather of had so and so instead of who we got. But they may discuss things like that among themselves and decided to look at everyone in say the top 100 or so on their draft board in much greater detail than in the past. It may not improve the draft but it could be a step in the right direction.

They did not talk to Mendenhall and barely did any research on him. Limas Sweed, they talked to and did research. It was a good pick, the talent was there, production, measurable's... they were all there, it just didn't translate to the next level. People forget that he didn't have an issue getting open, it was holding onto the ball. And just when he started to make progress, he had a serious injury in training camp (tore his Achilles tendon, was waved/injured the following year).

 

[Wingman]

They did not talk to Mendenhall and barely did any research on him. Limas Sweed, they talked to and did research. It was a good pick, the talent was there, production, measurable's... they were all there, it just didn't translate to the next level. People forget that he didn't have an issue getting open, it was holding onto the ball. And just when he started to make progress, he had a serious injury in training camp (tore his Achilles tendon, was waved/injured the following year).

Tony Hill may have also been one of these guys that surprised them. I am just commenting that maybe they are trying to improve their process.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Adrian Amos ran 4.39 at the Penn State pro day. He played CB and S. Steelers love versatility. Most teams probably have him at S. The way the steelers use their CBs he can play CB here. Or maybe he can play in a big nickel package. He's not a hitter. He's smart and athletic. In the steelers scheme, maybe you play him deep and let Shamarko play in the box.

 

[slashsteel]

If they move up I prefer a pass rusher as we know the good ones won't last long.......... not that a corner isn't needed or that I could live with that as well. In the end with the lack of free agent depth, I am hoping for two corners and two pass rushers out of this draft.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Steelers dine with Pass Rusher Shane Ray the night before Missouri pro day. Colbert and Tomlin both in attendance at Mizzou pro day.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/03/steelers-dine-with-shane-ray-prior-to-mizzou-pro-day/

UPDATE: Porter and Butler also at Missouri pro day. The Steelers dined with both Shane Ray and Marcus Golden.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/03/steelers-colbert-tomlin-butler-porter-all-present-for-missouri-pro-day/

I can see Shane Ray being the Steelers' guy. Plays the right position and is athletic.

 

[ianv2012]

I can see Shane Ray being the Steelers' guy. Plays the right position and is athletic.

He'd have to fall out of the top 10, and I remember reading something where Tomlin said to Ray at the combine that if he ran and performed well at his pro day he'd make sure to come get him (I don't remember the source might have been SteelersDepot, might have been BleacherReport, so take that with a grain of salt). So I wouldn't be shocked if he made it into the teens and we moved up to get him, he may be in their top 3 players on their board. He does have a wicked get off, incredible acceleration off the ball so I can see why they may like him, he's usually the first guy to move when the ball is snapped.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Jesse James ran 4.66 at the pro day. That puts him up with the fastest TE times this year. He's probably solidly in the 3rd or maybe 2nd now round.

Deion Barnes DE/OLB did LB drills but only ran 4.95 which is shocking. I was not expecting a 4.5 but he's more athletic than a 4.9. That will likely make him a very late rounder or free agent. AT 6'4 257 he has room to add weight and could develop into a good LOLB. He was a productive pass rusher at PSU.

Miles Diffenback OG - he was injured most of his senior year. Came back to play the last few games last year but wasn't great due to injury. He's a smart player, good picking up blitzes, good at getting to second level. Probably a free agent but would make good pickup after the draft.

 

[ianv2012]

Jesse James ran 4.66 at the pro day. That puts him up with the fastest TE times this year. He's probably solidly in the 3rd or maybe 2nd now round.

Deion Barnes DE/OLB did LB drills but only ran 4.95 which is shocking. I was not expecting a 4.5 but he's more athletic than a 4.9. That will likely make him a very late rounder or free agent. AT 6'4 257 he has room to add weight and could develop into a good LOLB. He was a productive pass rusher at PSU.

Miles Diffenback OG - he was injured most of his senior year. Came back to play the last few games last year but wasn't great due to injury. He's a smart player, good picking up blitzes, good at getting to second level. Probably a free agent but would make good pickup after the draft.

I would say James is still in that 4th round range because many view him as more of a blocking TE that struggles with being a consistent receiver, that's just what I'm reading so I'll need to watch some tape on him, and we shall see where he goes, you never know.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

I can see Shane Ray being the Steelers' guy. Plays the right position and is athletic.

He did not have a great combine and reports are he had a bad pro day too. Only ran 4.64 which is not great for a guy who is all about speed rush. Then again, Jarvis was in the same boat and ran 4.9 and Tomlin was excited he ran so slowly so they could draft him.

Drafting Shane Ray would be flat out admitting Jarvis is a bust. If they are even thinking of Ray, they should try to trade Jarvis. Jarvis has been injured enough that some team may be willing to roll the dice that it is injuries that have held him back. Maybe Chip Kelly would be interested.

 

[ianv2012]

And you would be wrong, he is a good pass catcher , especially for the college level, not surprised that you weren't aware of that, seems to be your norm..

Hahaha, that's ok, I did say it was what I was reading in scouting reports and I had yet to watch tape on him but hey feel free to take my words and do what you wish with them for your benefit, I don't mind

 

[ianv2012]

I would say James is still in that 4th round range because many view him as more of a blocking TE that struggles with being a consistent receiver, that's just what I'm reading so I'll need to watch some tape on him, and we shall see where he goes, you never know.

No you just stupidly spew **** about a player you don't watch and then take offense when you are outed for it, typical of you. Try actually watching the game instead of listening to the experts but then that might actually mean having football insight instead of garbling someone else's opinions. I took your words at value and showed you you were spouting ****, not exactly something new for you.

I'm sorry this upset you, do you feel better now that you've "outed" me? Even though I clearly stated I still didn't know much about him and only was stating what I was reading, next time I'll consult you since the experts are wrong and you, are clearly right

 

[insaniti]

He did not have a great combine and reports are he had a bad pro day too. Only ran 4.64 which is not great for a guy who is all about speed rush. Then again, Jarvis was in the same boat and ran 4.9 and Tomlin was excited he ran so slowly so they could draft him.

Drafting Shane Ray would be flat out admitting Jarvis is a bust. If they are even thinking of Ray, they should try to trade Jarvis. Jarvis has been injured enough that some team may be willing to roll the dice that it is injuries that have held him back. Maybe Chip Kelly would be interested.

How you come to these types of conclusions is beyond me...We have Moats, Jones, and...wait for it...NO ONE. So how exactly is it that Ray would be admitting Jones was a mistake? We need OLBer's, even if Harrison chooses to re-sign with us over the Titans, that still only gives us three. But hey, lets trade away someone from one of our weakest positions, should we trade Allen or Gay away if we draft a CB too?

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

How you come to these types of conclusions is beyond me...We have Moats, Jones, and...wait for it...NO ONE. So how exactly is it that Ray would be admitting Jones was a mistake? We need OLBer's, even if Harrison chooses to re-sign with us over the Titans, that still only gives us three. But hey, lets trade away someone from one of our weakest positions, should we trade Allen or Gay away if we draft a CB too?

It's only logical. Neither Ray nor Jarvis can play on the strong side. They play the same position. What would you call it when you spend a 1st round pick on the same position just 2 years later?

Allen and Gay can be on the field at the same time. What scenario would see Ray and Jarvis on the field at the same time? The only one i could see would be 3rd and long or prevent situations. There's no way they could be on the field together in any possible run situation. Shazier is small too.

That's why as i see it, the only way drafting Ray makes sense is if the steelers are admitting to themselves that Jarvis is a bust. Because if you think Jarvis is good then drafting Ray is unnecessary. If the steelers think Jarvis is a bust then the best move is admitting it, cutting your losses, and getting what you can for him like the Browns did with Trent Richardson, and reportedly are preparing to do with Manziel.

 

[ianv2012]

Steelers have pre-draft visit scheduled with OLB Kyle Emanuel

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/03/report-steelers-to-bring-north-dakota-state-olbde-kyle-emanuel-in-for-pre-draft-visit/

I really like this guy as a later prospect and hope we target him. Here is SteelersDepot scouting report on him if anyone's interested.

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/03/2015-nfl-draft-player-profiles-north-dakota-state-olb-kyle-emanuel/

 

[Steelerfan]

What would you call it when you spend a 1st round pick on the same position just 2 years later?

"The Steelers way." Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[insaniti]

It's only logical. Neither Ray nor Jarvis can play on the strong side. They play the same position. What would you call it when you spend a 1st round pick on the same position just 2 years later?

Allen and Gay can be on the field at the same time. What scenario would see Ray and Jarvis on the field at the same time? The only one i could see would be 3rd and long or prevent situations. There's no way they could be on the field together in any possible run situation. Shazier is small too.

That's why as i see it, the only way drafting Ray makes sense is if the steelers are admitting to themselves that Jarvis is a bust. Because if you think Jarvis is good then drafting Ray is unnecessary. If the steelers think Jarvis is a bust then the best move is admitting it, cutting your losses, and getting what you can for him like the Browns did with Trent Richardson, and reportedly are preparing to do with Manziel.

The coaches disagree with your assessment that neither can play the strong side, both Colbert and Tomlin have said that Jones could switch sides and will compete for a starting role at either OLB spot.

 

[SteelerFan448]

The coaches disagree with your assessment that neither can play the strong side, both Colbert and Tomlin have said that Jones could switch sides and will compete for a starting role at either OLB spot.

The coaches, Mike Tomlin specifically, also said "we're a 3-4 team and he's a right outside linebacker" when they drafted Lawrence Timmons. IIRC, everyone on this board knew that he couldn't play outside linebacker.

 

[insaniti]

Really? Everyone on this board knew? Is that why the board FLIPPED **** when they moved him inside? I love revisionist history.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Really? Everyone on this board knew? Is that why the board FLIPPED **** when they moved him inside? I love revisionist history.

Honestly don't recall that at all. Timmons was the guy people did not want the Steelers to draft and that's the guy they drafted.

 

[Stryker]

The coaches, Mike Tomlin specifically, also said "we're a 3-4 team and he's a right outside linebacker" when they drafted Lawrence Timmons. IIRC, everyone on this board knew that he couldn't play outside linebacker.

If he was the OLB of the future, the future lasted a round when they picked up Woodley.