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From cheating claims to trash talking, Steelers-Patriots rivalry full of bad blood

By*Ryan Wilson2h ago*• 10 min read

The*Steelers*and*Patriots*have met 29 times, and Pittsburgh holds a 15-14 series edge. Knowing that and nothing else, it would be reasonable to think that Sunday's AFC Championship Game would be an even matchup. That all changes when you hear the punchline: Since*Tom Brady*took over as the starter early in the 2001 season, the Patriots are 9-3 in head-to-head meetings with the Steelers, including 2-0 in the playoffs.

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And just as evenly matched rivalries can heighten the bad blood, so too can lopsided affairs, when one team owns the other. And that "big brother always beats up little brother" dynamic is pretty much what we have here. The Steelers, for all the success, all the AFC North dominance and all the Lombardi Trophies, are perpetually looking up to the Patriots, who have been the closest thing to a dynasty we've seen this century.

The thing is, the Steelers, at least statistically, aren't fare behind (via STATs):

Steelers vs. Patriots: 2001-2016

Regular season wins:*NE 196 (1st), PIT 166 (T-2nd)Playoff wins:*NE 23 (1st), PIT 15 (2nd)Super Bowl appearances:*NE 6 (1st), PIT 3 (T-2nd)Super*Bowl wins:*NE 4 (1st), PIT 2 (2-2nd)

In reality, however, Pittsburgh seems like a world away. Depending on who you ask, there are various explanations for that reality. Wherever you come down on the conspiracy theories, the Steelers could change all that with a win on Sunday. But we've already written about*how they can finally upend the Pats; below we take a look at the partial, sometimes-sordid history between these two teams that brings us to this point.

Jan. 27, 2002

AFC Championship Game

Final score:*Patriots 24, Steelers 17

The Steelers were the the AFC's No. 1 seed and Brady was in his first year as the Patriots' starter. On paper, this was a mismatch -- Vegas had Pittsburgh as a 10-point favorite -- but New England led 21-3 midway through the third quarter and went on to win 24-17. And while upsets happen, the Spygate revelations in 2007 revealed a pattern of skirting the rules in the years before that.

From the Sept. 2015*"Outside the Lines" report:

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... Inside a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others, they found a library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents' signals, with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons. Among them were handwritten diagrams of the defensive signals of the Pittsburgh Steelers, including the notes used in the January 2002 AFC Championship Game won by the Patriots 24-17.



Hines Ward said the Ty Law and the Patriots 'were calling our stuff out' in the AFC title game.*Getty Images

"Oh, they knew," former Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward said of the Patriots*after Spygate broke. "They were calling our stuff out. They knew, especially that first championship game here at Heinz Field [in 2002]. They knew a lot of our calls. There's no question some of their players were calling out some of our stuff."

The Steelers gave up a 60-yard touchdown pass in the game, and it's one of the plays some former players point to as evidence the Patriots may have been tipped off because it was the perfect play call for the Steelers' defensive coverage.



Patriots coach Bill Belichick.*USATSI

"They knew which blitzes were coming," former defensive tackle Chris Hoke told thePittsburgh Post-Gazette*days after the "Outside the Lines" report was published. "They knew how to call plays that would best beat a coverage we were in. I can remember walking off the field that day saying 'What just happened?'"

Jan. 23, 2005

AFC Championship Game, The Rematch

Final score:*Patriots 41, Steelers 27

The Steelers finished the regular season with a 15-1 record, thanks to a stout running game, a suffocating defense and the emergence of rookie*Ben Roethlisberger. In fact, three months earlier, Pittsburgh make quick work of New England, cruising to a 30-14 victory at Heinz Field that some thought signaled an end to the Patriots' dominance.

But in the AFC Championship Game rematch, the Steelers looked out of sorts early -- Big Ben had three interceptions including a pick-six. The Patriots led 24-3 at the half before sashaying to a 41-27 win. When Spygate came to light two years later, it inevitably led to questions about what the Patriots did (or didn't do) or knew (or didn't know) during the '05 conference championship game.



Jarvis Green forces Ben Roethlisberger to fumble during the 2005 title game.*Getty Images

"I have two observations from the 2004 game," former Steelers center Jeff Hartings told the*Post-Gazette. "At the beginning of the game, in the first quarter or at halftime, I can remember thinking it seems like they made remarkable adjustments from the regular-season game. I just considered it great scouting, great coaching, great execution. Maybe there was something more to it.

"The other observation I have from that game is walking off the field and knowing everyone made mistakes in that game except for Tom Brady. He played the perfect game. He knew exactly what we were doing. If you rewatch that game, he knew exactly when we were blitzing."

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Then there's this, from the*New York Post, which was published Oct. 12, 2014.

Bryan O'Leary, author of the book "Spygate: The Untold Story," repeats a rumor that Pats backup quarterback Doug Flutie once said he accidentally picked up Brady's helmet during the 2005 season.

"He was amazed that the coaches kept right on speaking to Brady past the 15-second cutoff, right up until the snap," *according to O'Leary.

"The voice in Tom Brady's helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face."

That same year, Pats linebacker Ted Johnson told*USA Today*that an hour before game time, a list of the opposing team's audibles -- the signals a QB would use at the line of scrimmage just before a snap to change the play -- would sometimes appear in his locker. He had no idea where the lists came from. Three years later, he said he was as surprised as anyone to hear about the cheating allegations.

The Patriots wasted little time refuting the "Outside the Lines" report,*issuing this statement:

"The New England Patriots have never filmed or recorded another team's practice or walkthrough The first time we ever heard of such an accusation came in 2008, the day before Super Bowl XLII, when the*Boston Herald*reported an allegation from a disgruntled former employee. That report created a media firestorm that extended globally and was discussed incessantly for months. It took four months before that newspaper retracted its story and offered the team a front and back page apology for the damage done. Clearly, the damage has been irreparable. As recently as [August 2015], over seven years after the retraction and apology was issued, ESPN issued the following apology to the Patriots for continuing to perpetuate the myth. ...

"This type of reporting over the past seven years has led to additional unfounded, unwarranted and, quite frankly, unbelievable allegations by former players, coaches and executives. None of which have ever been substantiated, but many of which continue to be propagated. ... For the past 16 years, the Patriots have been led by one of the league's all-time greatest coaches and one of its all-time greatest quarterbacks. It is disappointing that some choose to believe in myths, conjecture and rumors rather than giving credit for the team's successes to Coach Belichick, his staff and the players for their hard work, attention to detail, methodical weekly preparation, diligence and overall performance."

And 18 months before the "Outside the Lines" investigation, former Steelers coach Bill Cowher, who now works for CBS' "NFL Today," said Spygate wasn't the reason Pittsburgh fell to New England in the playoffs.

"We didn't lose the game because of any Spygate, because of them having any additional things,"*Cowher said during a January 2014 radio interview.

"Part of the things we had [were] wristbands that we were using to do it," he said. "It's not even an element anymore because of the communications that take place on the field to the quarterback, to the linebacker. So it's an element of the game that doesn't exist, and really, what happened when we lost that game is they outplayed us, and it has nothing to do with stealing signals, or cheating, or anything else. They were a better football team on that day."

Dec. 9, 2007

Week 14, Gillette Stadium: Guarantee nothing

Final score:*Patriots 34, Steelers 13

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It's hard to imagine but trash talk was part of sports long before the arrival of social media. And in 2007, ahead of the 9-3 Steelers facing the 12-0 Patriots, Pittsburgh safety Anthony Smith thought it would be a good idea to say this: "Yeah, I can guarantee a win." Of course, he qualified by adding, "As long as we come out and do what we got to do." But no one cared about those 13 words because, well, this dude had just guaranteed a win against the high-powered Patriots, the same outfit that would finish the regular season undefeated.

There really isn't much there, but never let it be said that the Patriots couldn't manufacture an "US AGAINST THE WORLD!" storyline to motivate themselves. That helps explain Brady trash-talking Smith after burning him for a touchdown.

"I don't care to repeat what I said, especially if my mother reads it," Brady said at the time. "She wouldn't be very happy."

Belichick had some thoughts as well: "We've played against a lot better safeties than him, I'll tell you."

When it was over, the Patriots had 399 passing yards and four touchdowns, and Smith had been exposed as a liability in the secondary.

"It was obvious that they didn't care about running the ball," Pittsburgh cornerback Ike Taylor said after the game. "Not at all. They were in attack mode all the way. The only thing we can do is keep playing hard and hope we get another shot at them. Hopefully, if we get that chance, we'll do things a lot differently."

Sept. 10, 2015

Gillette Stadium: About those headsets

Final score:*Patriots 28, Steelers 21

The Steelers lost the season opener to the Patriots, 28-21, but the game wasn't without controversy (we're as shocked as you are). It started with Pittsburgh*having trouble with the headsets.

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"We were told a couple of minutes ago that [the Steelers coaches] were getting the Patriots' radio broadcast in their headsets," Al Michaels said during the NBC broadcast.

Michaels' colleague, Cris Collinsworth, then brought up the Patriots reputation. "Every team that I know of has some story about what happens to them in this stadium and that''s not going to help that they're getting those radio signals in their headset."

This brings us back to the "Outside the Lines" report -- and specifically this, which came out days before this game:

At Gillette Stadium, the scrambling and jamming of the opponents' coach-to-quarterback radio line -- "small s---" that many teams do, according to a former Pats assistant coach -- occurred so often that one team asked a league official to sit in the coaches' box during the game and wait for it to happen. Sure enough, on a key third down, the headset went out."

Worth noting: The league controls the headsets.

"In the first quarter of tonight's game, the Pittsburgh coaches experienced interference in their headsets caused by a stadium power infrastructure issue, which was exacerbated by the inclement weather," the NFL said in a statement released after the game. "The coaches' communications equipment, including the headsets, is provided by the NFL for both clubs use on game day. Once the power issue was addressed, the equipment functioned properly with no additional issues."



Mike Tomlin speaks to an official during the Patriots game in 2015.*Getty Images

The league cleared the Patriots of any wrongdoing, but the Steelers will be prepared in the event it happens again.

"For whatever reason, there was an issue last time up there," Roethlisberger said, viaSteelers.com. "That's why we have hand signals, we have wrist bands, and we were ready to move on with whatever we needed to do."

The Patriots were punished for Spygate, in part, because they were illegally taping opponents' signals. In related news: Roethlisberger might want to implement Plan C.

The Steelers are 6.0-point underdogs, and in case you're wondering, five of seven CBSSports.com experts*are picking the Patriots to win. Honestly, given recent history, that sounds low. Either way, the fun starts Sunday at 6:40 p.m ET on CBS.




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The Patriots could have won championshps in the 70s too if they used Steroids like the Steelers.

4 Lombardis via steroids.
 
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These I would fully expect. In fact I would imagine they are a given. Add the stealing of the playsheets, as well as the intercepting of the radio transmissions, the microphones in your defensive linemen's pads to catch QB audibles, improperly inflated footballs allowing Blount and your receivers to better hold on to the ball, piped in stadium noise - you name it. I have no doubt your scumbag team will do it.

Hey, remember that awesome SB where your coach and almost the entire team left the field with 1 second left? Classy!

How'd that end anyway?

Start coming up with new excuses for when you lose Sunday.

Todd Haley is a good starting point and the cheerleader Tomlin next.
 

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The Patriots could have won Super Bowls in the 70s too if they used Steroids like the Steelers.

4 lowB repuSs via steroids.

They did use steroids back in the 70s. Everybody did. What they didn't do that the Cheatriots do is break rules in the actual rule book.
 

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The Patriots could have won championshps in the 70s too if they used Steroids like the Steelers.

4 Lombardis via steroids.

lol seriously? are you THAT stupid?? every team in the league was juicing, when it wasn't against the rules or illegal, einstein.
 

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CHEATING... thats all we need to know... its great that all across this fine country, every town i go to you mention the patriots and cheating is the first thing that comes up... no matter how much you win, the majority of people will simply dismiss you as nothing but unworthy scrubs who cheated their way to winning... while we are on the subject.. has brady completed any passed not off pick plays this year? Biggest fraud ever....
 

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The Patriots could have won championshps in the 70s too if they used Steroids like the Steelers.

4 Lombardis via steroids.

Start coming up with new excuses for when you lose Sunday.

Todd Haley is a good starting point and the cheerleader Tomlin next.

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He probably can't name 5 players pre 2001
 

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He probably can't name 5 players pre 2001

Most of the people in New England were not aware that they had a football team prior to 2001.
 

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cheat fans always try to go back to those steroids that were allowed...... nevermind them cheating then and now that isn't allowed

funny thing is is I have been on message boards for a long long long time

and before the cheatriots you could barely find a patriot fan

this one trolling now probably couldn't name a patriot prior to that time period without google......


that fan base is majority band wagon jumpers, that will jump right back off after billacheat leaves...
 

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Without google your *** couldn't name 5 players that played for the Cheats in the 70's. You probably don't know who Stanley Morgan is.

Random fact: we took Robin Cole instead of Morgan. Cole was an OK player but Morgan have been a perfect fit.
 

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Without google your *** couldn't name 5 players that played for the Cheats in the 70's. You probably don't know who Stanley Morgan is.


To be fair, he sounds like he's 12, and I don't think it's right to beat up on a minor.
I'll reserve judgement until he posts a complete and cognitive post.
 

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The best part is somewhere on some patriot messageboard he is bragging how he was a total badass putting us in our places here... when in fact he just gave us a dancing fool to laugh at for a week ��
 

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To be fair, he sounds like he's 12, and I don't think it's right to beat up on a minor.
I'll reserve judgement until he posts a complete and cognitive post.

The sad thing is, he's probably 42.
 

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The Steelers will have every excuse in the book after they lose.

No hot water in the showers, headsets went out, referees stole the win, fire alarm went off at hotel, Todd Haley play calling.

Just like Whines Ward back in 2004 crying pitt was the better team after losing again to NE.

You were saying, douchebag?
 

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You were saying, douchebag?

I said Brady owns the Steelers - He does.
I said Brady is the Greatest of all Time - He is.
I said Brady will have 5 rings - He will in 2 weeks.

Your team quit and played scared because the Pats punched them in mouth. Every time a Steelers was tackled he got up limping. Bell had menstrual cramps.
 
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