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Ok you Tomlin apologist

I don't think Cowher would have won a single Super Bowl with Marino................................Noll would have kept coaching as he would have won 3 or more in the 80s and early 90s with Marino and wold have kept coaching.
 
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Steelers safety Sean Davis: "We’ve got to practice better, continue to work. In the National Football League, you can’t just show up Sunday and perform. You have to wirk at it."
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If that isn't a chip off the ol coaches block I don't know what is.
 
Steelers12 said:
I don't think Cowher would have won a single Super Bowl with Marino................................Noll would have kept coaching as he would have won 3 or more in the 80s and early 90s with Marino and wold have kept coaching.
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Highly possible.
 
Steelers12 said:
I don't think Cowher would have won a single Super Bowl with Marino................................Noll would have kept coaching as he would have won 3 or more in the 80s and early 90s with Marino and wold have kept coaching.
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i don't think so. Noll had interests outside football. He retired and never looked back. Never did interviews, didn't attend steeler functions. Maybe he would have won a SB or two with Marino but i think he still would have retired about when he did.

Actually, with Marino he may have retired sooner. I think he stayed a few years longer because he didn't want to leave the team when it was down. If he had Marino and won a SB around 84 or 85, I think he would have retired like Bettis did while on top.
 
Well, we are looking at 4 losses in a row, in December. Not the month you want to lose in. Bye bye playoff Hope's. We wouldn't have won a playoff game anyway.
 
The announcers for next weeks game have been announced. Very fitting.

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Tomlin sucks. Plain and simple as that.

Yesterday's game was his tenure in a nutshell.
Mismanaged and lost to a below .500 team




And Ben had to save his *** yet again
 
Ron Burgundy said:
No, that ain't gonna happen. Shades would need to be below .500 for at least two consecutive years before they'd consider it.
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The true unknown player loyalty to Tomlin. Personally I think he drove a deep wedge into the team when he asked nearly half the team who wanted to stand for the national anthem to stay inside the locker room.

Team leaders like Ben and Heyward, so I read wanted to stand. Only big Al had the guts to disobey.

What if your boss forced your hand and asked you to do something against your beliefs?

That’s what happened. The back ups and guys who don’t dress for games must have been scared if they wanted to stand.

Prior to this Tomlin hosted a political fund raiser in his house for Hillary Clinton.

Oh sure, talking politics and taking a stand on a divisive issue is good for a locker room.





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This team is one of the worst coached teams in the league
From week 1, the team came out not prepared, clueless, no game plan....and that has happened year after year...TIE against the Browns!
But then the defense started to get it together, big win against a "good" team Carolina per the media, but then coaching failed AGAIN
Struggle to win against a bad Jags team
Not prepared to play Denver, get up by 16 against a Chargers team that is mediocre at best (although Tunch said was a very good team, check the schedule homer)...team shut it down at halftime
Then just when you think they'll get back on track with win over a 2-10 team, NOPE...LOSS
That my friends is coaching, hands down...I'm still trying to figure out why the national media calls Tomlin a "players coach" he couldn't motivate a fat guy in a buffet!
Tomlin knows he can't be fired, and that is how he coaches...year in year out
Finally the only thing that the sheep say..."He wins regular season games" is finally coming to and end
 
They went for a fourth and one leading by 4 and field position at a PREMIUM. They had no run game so the fake was a joke and the QB is totally untested. They left the unproven QB in when Ben could have went back in because of the FLOW OF THE GAME. And he killed his own clock not taking time outs until there was actually a stopped clock. Let all that wash over you for a second.
 
SteelerSask said:
They went for a fourth and one leading by 4 and field position at a PREMIUM. They had no run game so the fake was a joke and the QB is totally untested. They left the unproven QB in when Ben could have went back in because of the FLOW OF THE GAME. And he killed his own clock not taking time outs until there was actually a stopped clock. Let all that wash over you for a second.
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Haven't you heard, it's Bens fault for not just putting himself in the game.

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Local Pittsburgh radio this morning is saying that Ben should have been more animated on the sideline when told to take a seat. They are advocating Ben should have been insubordinate to the coach. They do not believe Tomlin or Ben.

They say that if Tomlin actually said to Ben what Tomlin said he said, and what Ben said he said, then Tomlin should be fired this morning. But they don't believe it. They think Ben told Tomlin to leave Dobbs in until they fell behind.

They are putting this on Ben.

They say nothing else makes any sense. It is Ben's ego.

I say.......Did saving the time outs make any sense? Was that on Ben too??

Un-Freakin-believable
 
Super Dave said:
Local Pittsburgh radio this morning is saying that Ben should have been more animated on the sideline when told to take a seat. They are advocating Ben should have been insubordinate to the coach. They do not believe Tomlin or Ben.

They say that if Tomlin actually said to Ben what Tomlin said he said, and what Ben said he said, then Tomlin should be fired this morning. But they don't believe it. They think Ben told Tomlin to leave Dobbs in until they fell behind.

They are putting this on Ben.

They say nothing else makes any sense. It is Ben's ego.

I say.......Did saving the time outs make any sense? Was that on Ben too??

Un-Freakin-believable
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LMAO, it has to be those fucktards on the fan. Of course they'll put it on Ben, they will never blame Tomlin. They showed Ben talking to Tomlin a couple times. They railed Ben for two straight days when he called out Washington for drops, but now they want him to give the finger to the coach during a game, you can't make this stuff up.
Let me guess, it's that little weasel Chris Mack?

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Oh and despite being partially or heavily responsible in almost every game this team has not won, Tomlin will trot Boswell out again next week, almost certainly.
Drink that in.
 
Coach said:
The true unknown player loyalty to Tomlin. Personally I think he drove a deep wedge into the team when he asked nearly half the team who wanted to stand for the national anthem to stay inside the locker room.

Team leaders like Ben and Heyward, so I read wanted to stand. Only big Al had the guts to disobey.

What if your boss forced your hand and asked you to do something against your beliefs?

That’s what happened. The back ups and guys who don’t dress for games must have been scared if they wanted to stand.

Prior to this Tomlin hosted a political fund raiser in his house for Hillary Clinton.

Oh sure, talking politics and taking a stand on a divisive issue is good for a locker room.





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You must have been dancing up and down after this lost. More material for you to preen over.

Get your facts right. The players made the decision to be in the tunnel not the coach. The coach told the captains whatever decision you make, make it 100% participation. How many times do you have to be told this? You say something that isn’t true enough to yourself that you begin to believe it.

BTW, the fundraiser for Hillary.....belongs in the politics forum. Leave it there.


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Coryea said:
LMAO, it has to be those fucktards on the fan. Of course they'll put it on Ben, they will never blame Tomlin. They showed Ben talking to Tomlin a couple times. They railed Ben for two straight days when he called out Washington for drops, but now they want him to give the finger to the coach during a game, you can't make this stuff up.
Let me guess, it's that little weasel Chris Mack?

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Yep............Reality is not reality. There has to be another explanation. Because if reality really is the reality....well, then............. that is inexcusable.
 
Let's put one thing to bed. The medical staff clears or doesn't clear a player. Ben was medically cleared. Then the coach asks him how effective he could be. The player gives him an estimate. That is it. It is on the coach. It is solely his decision.
 
Who can take a season full of promise? Sour all the joy. ( Chorus sings sour all the joy ) Mix in some lousy game decisions that will surely annoy. The Tomlin man can, oh the Tomlin man can.



Who can hire coordinators? Turn them into goats! ( Chorus repeats turn them into goats ) Have them exit Pittsburgh on a sour note. The Tomlin man can. The Tomlin man can 'casue he'll fire those he hired to make himself look good.



Oh, watch him argue. Hem and haw. ( Chorus sings Hem and Haw ) Get busted for stepping on the game field & it's just another flaw. The Tomlin man can. Oh, the Tomlin man can.
Who's has a team full of divas? ( Chorus repeats full of divas ) That don't respect him at all! He'll take away the locker room games, but it won't help at all. The Tomlin man can, oh the Tomlin man can.



Let's talk about clock management. Or the lack of making coaching adjustments on the fly. ( Chorus sings lack of adjustments on the fly ) Lose to teams with bad records like stinky lemon pie. The Tomlin man can, Oh the Tomlin man can. The Tomlin man can. Because he'll make changes without any change at all.



Who asks their linebackers, ( Chorus who asks their linebackers ) to cover wide receivers N' all. Then he'll use two defensive lineman in goal line package. Its just another joke, he says he's out of smoke. The Tomlin man, woe the Tomlin man.



Who's 3-6 in his last nine playoff games? ( Who's 3-6 in his last nine playoff games ) And nearly impossible to fire? ( Chorus nearly impossible to fire ) Make the fans bleed black and gold, he's like a vampire. The Tomlin man can. Oh, the Tomlin man can.



Remember the last super bowl win? With Bill Cowher's players an all. ( Chorus repeats with Bill Cowher's players and all ) That was in 2009. Ten years later sunglass like Darth Vader still in charge. The Tomlin man. Oh, the Tomlin man.


I see another Lombardi. In my dreams. It can happen with some action, make addition with subtraction. Yes, Art Rooney can. Yes, Art Rooney can.

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The Trib this morning doesn't have a single article focused on the Tomlin debacle. Rather they have an article making fun of fans (which they have one of these every week) for wanting a change.
 
Ike Kelly said:
You must have been dancing up and down after this lost. More material for you to preen over.

Get your facts right. The players made the decision to be in the tunnel not the coach. The coach told the captains whatever decision you make, make it 100% participation. How many times do you have to be told this? You say something that isn’t true enough to yourself that you begin to believe it.

BTW, the fundraiser for Hillary.....belongs in the politics forum. Leave it there.


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Nearly HALF of the team wanted to stand Ike Taylor! Tomlin used his potion of power and influence to shut their views down by asking for team unity. There should be no vote on one's beliefs, and by being the head coach he clearly affected those who wanted something else.

Anything a head coach does publically can affect his football team. Politics is the third rail of coaching and speaking of that, I think you're better off not going to the politics board. Stay confined to the football only forum.
 
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The Trib this morning doesn't have a single article focused on the Tomlin debacle. Rather they have an article making fun of fans (which they have one of these every week) for wanting a change.
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Only Ed calls it like it is. Well Mark Madden does too. Most of them are softball lightweights on calling out Tomlin's folly.
 
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