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Keep or Cut: Mark Barron

slashsteel said:
Hilton has known to be suspect in coverage, really Cope that is a hard comparison.

And assuming Barron will be a backup without knowing Bush's learning curve, or knowing Williams lack of coverage capability makes me think they would continue to be rotational.

I can agree Hilton is a close area playmaker, but we know they both bring different skillets in our D and were used for different reasons.

Hilton isn't going to wakeup and all of a sudden a coverage corner.

Nor is anyone behind Barron going to jump up and take his job.

If someone could come in and upgrade Barron I wouldn't blink, but that is a high improbability on a team that everyone is preaching saving money.


You can't say save money and then think the team will be able to upgrade the position.

Nor should he need to be cut now that the CBA is in place.

I just don't see the reasoning in getting rid of someone who isn't dead weight, just because we view him as a backup?

Not so sure the Steelers view him as anything less than a rotational player who they can throw him into coverage and breathe easily. Thinking back to Jon Bostic which made us all breathe heavily.
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I don't know what metric you're using. I'm going off of game film. Hilton excites me and is way more diverse, plays the run, rushes the QB, defends the pass, than Barron, who seems to disappear on the field. If it's my choice, 10 times out of 10 I chose Hilton over Barron.
 
Cope said:
I don't know what metric you're using. I'm going off of game film. Hilton excites me and is way more diverse, plays the run, rushes the QB, defends the pass, than Barron, who seems to disappear on the field. If it's my choice, 10 times out of 10 I chose Hilton over Barron.
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Even if you are favoring Hilton which I really have no problem with,,there is no need to get rid of either. I could see the want for the Steelers to keep both.

My point really overall was that both players had their positives and at times had their negatives. If you factor in that the depth is better behind Hilton I would think that would be a pretty decent reason to keep Barron.

I don't think many would disagree he is an upgrade over Bostic and Burnett..
 
To underscore what a bad deal this is for the Steelers, I doubt one team will trade for him and pick up his contract. ( not even a 7th round pick ). He's not worth that type of money, It's either Williams or Barron. One should be cut.
 
Coach said:
To underscore what a bad deal this is for the Steelers, I doubt one team will trade for him and pick up his contract. ( not even a 7th round pick ). He's not worth that type of money, It's either Williams or Barron. One should be cut.
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Well now I know we should keep both, window licker man has chimed in.

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I'm on the fence with this guy. He got slightly better towards the end of last year but didn't light the world on fire. I understand the first half of last season he was battling either a hammy or a groin and was playing through it-which in my opinion hurt the defense and himself more than it helped. I reckon that the Steelers ask him to restructure or take a cut to stay on. If he doesn't agree-see ya.
 
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We have terminated the contracts of LB Mark Barron, LB Anthony Chickillo and WR Johnny Holton.

Well I was hoping they keep him.

Oh well one I was wrong about...
 
Good cuts. Holton couldn't catch coronavirus last year and we needed to shed the cap room on the other two. Restructures still to come.
 
Hines57 said:
Good cuts. Holton couldn't catch coronavirus last year and we needed to shed the cap room on the other two. Restructures still to come.
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Man that was cold.

:th_balls:
 
Foster should have been cut two years ago but they love the weak link for some reason.
 
Gridiron said:
Foster should have been cut two years ago but they love the weak link for some reason.
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I read they are trying to trade him similar to Gilbert and if no takers then a release will take place.
 
He just retired thank god saving the Steelers from themselves once again. We had a better cheaper player ready in Finney and yet we overpaid and played Foster for the entire year to our detriment.
 
Gridiron said:
He just retired thank god saving the Steelers from themselves once again. We had a better cheaper player ready in Finney and yet we overpaid and played Foster for the entire year to our detriment.
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I don't know if they can pay Finney. The guy might get 6 to 7M in the open market

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Gridiron said:
He just retired thank god saving the Steelers from themselves once again. We had a better cheaper player ready in Finney and yet we overpaid and played Foster for the entire year to our detriment.
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I don't know if they can pay Finney. The guy might get 6 to 7M in the open market

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Snip, snip, snip...Where else can we cut??? Let's get some space...For once??? PLEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEE...Ain't happening huh?.

Well, Colbert did a decent job last year with a couple pick ups...

I feel he was better than ya'll gave him credit for. And he was a pretty solid hitter for a revamped ******* stellar defense....Dude was definitely an asset & spanked a few boys around last year. Yes he gets burned, but this "D" covered his weakness so it wasn't glaring

Maybe he comes back at a reduced rate?
 
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It feels nice to be right about Barron, but not at the expense of my friends. Sorry Slash, good points on keeping him as depth, which I agree. The price point wasn't there for it though.
 
Cope said:
It feels nice to be right about Barron, but not at the expense of my friends. Sorry Slash, good points on keeping him as depth, which I agree. The price point wasn't there for it though.
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I just like what he brought to the table and question who is out there to replace him. If it is a Bostic type player or someone on the roster it is arguably a downgrade. I just keep remembering TEs flying threw our D like it was swiss cheese. I think Barron helped solve that problem.

It is what it is, I am more concerned who replaces Foster, I hope they have a solid plan.

I don't care if I am wrong when they upgrade or do a parallel move.

I just think on a team that had question marks they just added a few more.

But it is early I have to be patient...
 
slashsteel said:
I just like what he brought to the table and question who is out there to replace him. If it is a Bostic type player or someone on the roster it is arguably a downgrade. I just keep remembering TEs flying threw our D like it was swiss cheese. I think Barron helped solve that problem.

It is what it is, I am more concerned who replaces Foster, I hope they have a solid plan.

I don't care if I am wrong when they upgrade or do a parallel move.

I just think on a team that had question marks they just added a few more.

But it is early I have to be patient...
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Agreed. Bostic was a backup and paid like a backup. Barron was a starter and was brought in to start, but then we drafted Bush.

LG should be Feiler, because you have 2 capable players in Chukes and Banner to fight it out for RT/ Swing T.
 
Cope said:
Agreed. Bostic was a backup and paid like a backup. Barron was a starter and was brought in to start, but then we drafted Bush.

LG should be Feiler, because you have 2 capable players in Chukes and Banner to fight it out for RT/ Swing T.
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Is Banner more than just a novelty "tackle elgible" ? I'd hope he has plenty of tools to take the starting spot. EITHER way, between CHUKES and BANNER I hope a formidable RT EMERGES.




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Cope said:
Agreed. Bostic was a backup and paid like a backup. Barron was a starter and was brought in to start, but then we drafted Bush.

LG should be Feiler, because you have 2 capable players in Chukes and Banner to fight it out for RT/ Swing T.
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I am not sure what we have in Chukes or Banner as far as being starter material. They seemed to lose out on that competition battle quickly last year with Feiler ultimately winning the nod. Curious if they dip into free agency either a T or G. If not I could see a 2nd or 3rd rounder addressing the situation. With losing two Olinemen hell maybe even both.

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slashsteel said:
Well now I know we should keep both, window licker man has chimed in.

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What just happened? I thought so. Vince Williams, who I like as a dude isn't worth his contract either. IMO the Steelers cut Barron, and that was the right move.

Not that we have $$$ and cap space to bring in free agents, but the team has got to do better than Moncrief and Barron, who made way too much money, had to be cut, and saw the Steelers eating dead money.

If you think the Steelers are good at cap management, well that's nice.
 
SteelerSask said:
I'd feel a lot better about losing Finney and moving Feiler to guard and starting Chukes or Banner if we still had Munchak instead of fat boy they have now.
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IMO Feiler is worth a 2nd round tender...especially to a team picking at the end of round two who needs a tackle or guard. A better than average right tackle in his prime...those guys get paid. We have no cap space.
 
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Coach said:
What just happened? I thought so. Vince Williams, who I like as a dude isn't worth his contract either. IMO the Steelers cut Barron, and that was the right move.

Not that we have $$$ and cap space to bring in free agents, but the team has got to do better than Moncrief and Barron, who made way too much money, had to be cut, and saw the Steelers eating dead money.

If you think the Steelers are good at cap management, well that's nice.
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What starters have they lost? 1 who they planned on replacing.

If you think they aren't good at managing the cap............well


that is nice.
 
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