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Football Team releases Dwayne Haskins

Haskins - what a disaster. Classic WFT owner cluster f#$k pick. IF we go for a QB this year its unlikely to be in the first round as all the good ones will be taken by the time we draft. A guy I'm starting to warm to: Desond Ritter from UCinn. Could probably be had for a mid round pick (we've used several of those for QBs in the past). Good size, great wheels. Apparently struggles a bit with deep ball accuracy but has a strong arm and maybe the potential is there for improvement.
 
Coach said:
My ability on who to pick towers above yours. Right now, I like Jones arm, accuracy and and mobility over Trask's. I also said I'd trade out 1-4 and next years #1 for Trevor Lawrence. No team is that stupid, well maybe the Jags are.

Try making such boats sometimes, I'll laugh in you face. The last one was Claypool is a third round talent. How does 10 touchdowns sound as a rookie with a bad OC who loves Johnson?

The players I like tend to do well in the NFL, I have a long list of guys I wanted picked within range of what we could have had that exceed who we picked .

This is a good QB class. Ben is old. Now is the time to pick his replacement.
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so very much wrong with most of this post. the only thing you nailed was the last three sentences, and only because they are obvious to anyone.
 
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Badcat said:
Let's get one thing straight, you're a man who has an opinion on a football message board. You hold no credentials and no one values your opinion enough to pay for it, You nor I have anymore ability to spot talent than the next man or woman on this board.
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That's what I've been trying to tell him for like a month now, but you said it so much more eloquently than I did.
 
slashsteel said:
You tower over nobody when it comes to anything football or draft related. You repeat Claypool over and over yet I was simply a round off. Where you pick busts over and over again then shovel them under the carpet or simply ride the coat tail of someone else's eval. You laughing in my face means absolutely nothing when almost everyone laughs at your crazy *** analysis daily. Yeah I know your unrealistic trade scenerios. You would trade over half the team away if you had the opportunity. Yeah, "right now" you like is appropriate verbiage from you as that changes early and often. As I said keep building that list you are sure to get one right eventually! [emoji28]

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Try saying who you would have taken during the draft. Only then will we be equal on initial opinions. I think Claypool has first round talent and said so, and I also said I think Jefferson as the best WR in a very deep class. He likely is.

I've called out as many bust or disappointments ( often picking a better player ) as much as anyone here, only to have fools like you debate me for 2-3 years saying they are good.

And since Rivers is a topic lately, I called out he'd be a great QB. TMC said he'd be out of the league in 4 years. There are dozens of evals on the web. Mine are more likely right that Walter Football or Mike Mayock who loves everybody these days. When you have dozes of options, someone is going to be right that year. Mine is right most years. Troll on, your a fraud, and won't dare to match me.

Another player I liked a lot this year was John Taylor. Gee, how did he turn out?
 
Sarge said:
That's what I've been trying to tell him for like a month now, but you said it so much more eloquently than I did.
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Apparently, Eloquent statements also fall upon deaf ears. ^^^
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Coach said:
Try saying who you would have taken during the draft. Only then will we be equal on initial opinions. I think Claypool has first round talent and said so, and I also said I think Jefferson as the best WR in a very deep class. He likely is.

I've called out as many bust or disappointments ( often picking a better player ) as much as anyone here, only to have fools like you debate me for 2-3 years saying they are good.

And since Rivers is a topic lately, I called out he'd be a great QB. TMC said he'd be out of the league in 4 years. There are dozens of evals on the web. Mine are more likely right that Walter Football or Mike Mayock who loves everybody these days. When you have dozes of options, someone is going to be right that year. Mine is right most years. Troll on, your a fraud, and won't dare to match me.

Another player I liked a lot this year was John Taylor. Gee, how did he turn out?
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You are not a draftnik, you don't watch game tape. You throw darts at a board with Walter Football, youtube highlights, and riding fans coat tails. There is a fraud alright. He goes by the name outcooched.

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43Hitman said:
You guys should do a draft contest, that way Coach can have the opportunity to prove to everyone how good he really is.
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I think that’s fair.
 
Badcat said:
Let's get one thing straight, you're a man who has an opinion on a football message board. You hold no credentials and no one values your opinion enough to pay for it, You nor I have anymore ability to spot talent than the next man or woman on this board.
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Sarge said:
That's what I've been trying to tell him for like a month now, but you said it so much more eloquently than I did.
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I've been trying to make that point to him for years

I've said it nicely and I've said it more bluntly he just don't listen
 
43Hitman said:
You guys should do a draft contest, that way Coach can have the opportunity to prove to everyone how good he really is.
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He won't do one. Last year I tried to get him to play there was crickets. He would rather wait until after the draft to say who he would have picked after seeing what Walter had to say about the picks. His approach before the draft is name 50 players he likes. Trying to get him to lock into one isn't easy. But **** I would love a contest. Maybe I will try it again this year see if, "I would have" will participate.

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slashsteel said:
He won't do one. Last year I tried to get him to play there was crickets. He would rather wait until after the draft to say who he would have picked after seeing what Walter had to say about the picks. His approach before the draft is name 50 players he likes. Trying to get him to lock into one isn't easy. But **** I would love a contest. Maybe I will try it again this year see if, "I would have" will participate.

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too bad more posters aren't like me and pimp the same guy two years out from the draft
 
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43Hitman said:
You guys should do a draft contest, that way Coach can have the opportunity to prove to everyone how good he really is.
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Cooch will literally make 50 mock drafts for the first round. He'll slot different guys in different places in every single one. Then point to one and have a Eureka moment. Though we all know that Eureka is a vaacuum cleaner - and like Cooch - it sucks.
 
CoolieMan said:
I posted a few in the way too early draft thread a couple of weeks ago

DE - Payton Turner
S/LB - Grant Stuard
WR - Marquez Stevenson
WR - Keith Corbin
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Ah yeah I remember now. I can see the Steelers bringing in a WR and a hybrid LBer. I know you would be stoked if one of these players got the nod.

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Coach said:
Try saying who you would have taken during the draft. Only then will we be equal on initial opinions. I think Claypool has first round talent and said so, and I also said I think Jefferson as the best WR in a very deep class. He likely is.

I've called out as many bust or disappointments ( often picking a better player ) as much as anyone here, only to have fools like you debate me for 2-3 years saying they are good.

And since Rivers is a topic lately, I called out he'd be a great QB. TMC said he'd be out of the league in 4 years. There are dozens of evals on the web. Mine are more likely right that Walter Football or Mike Mayock who loves everybody these days. When you have dozes of options, someone is going to be right that year. Mine is right most years. Troll on, your a fraud, and won't dare to match me.
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I'm pretty sure that these days, Mike Mayock is busy performing his duties as the general manager of the Las Vegas Raiders, not sharing his love for everybody with his draft evaluations on the internet.
 
Coach said:
I'm divided on Trask. Reports say he's a humble guy. He leads his receivers very well, and can throw for 400 yards vs. teams like Alabama, BUT his deep ball is iffy and he's going to be easy to sack. He fits best in a west coast style offense, with a good OL.

The guy I like is Mac Jones. I know Alabama has 10 first round pick playing, but it's hard to nit pick at what he does. that accuracy in the SEC...wow. Jones to me won't be Ben or a deep passer, BUT give him a good running game and he's going to move the chains with the best of them. If we can somehow obtain Jones in round two, I'd like it. But he might be gone before we pick in round one. Would I take him in round one? That's a big maybe. If Nick Saban privately signs off on him, make that a yes. He reminds me of Kenny Anderson, a very good, but not quite great NFL QB.
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Trask.....can throw for 400 yards, but has suspect deep ball.....going to be easy to sack. Best fit in West Coast system with a good OL (such a masterful observation)

So Trask will put up 400 yards against a top 5 defense, has over 4000+ yards this season, yet can’t throw the deep ball. He shouldn’t have a good OL. In fact no QB should ever have a good OL. They should be able to do their thing regardless of the OL. Such a contradiction in terms.

And to top it all off, Jones won’t be a deep passer? This proves you don’t watch games....AT ALL. Jones is regarded as the best deep ball passer in the SEC. if you have seen some of his beautiful long passes to Waddle, Smith and Metchie in stride you would know. But you don’t.

More BS from the board’s infamous freeloader. No need to start your BS opinions on college players, Walter Football hasn’t published their guide yet.


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Coach said:
Try saying who you would have taken during the draft. Only then will we be equal on initial opinions. I think Claypool has first round talent and said so, and I also said I think Jefferson as the best WR in a very deep class. He likely is.

I've called out as many bust or disappointments ( often picking a better player ) as much as anyone here, only to have fools like you debate me for 2-3 years saying they are good.

And since Rivers is a topic lately, I called out he'd be a great QB. TMC said he'd be out of the league in 4 years. There are dozens of evals on the web. Mine are more likely right out of Walter Football or Mike Mayock who loves everybody these days. When you have dozes of options, someone is going to be right that year. Mine is right most years. Troll on, your a fraud, and won't dare to match me.

Another player I liked a lot this year was John Taylor. Gee, how did he turn out?
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fixed it for you
 
Haskins went unclaimed on waivers.

that should tell you something. the NFL talks amongst themselves. they all know more than we do (except Cooch, who gave God pointers - such as giving women free will) so you can damn well bet that there are other issues at play here.
 
Coach said:
Try saying who you would have taken during the draft. Only then will we be equal on initial opinions. I think Claypool has first round talent and said so, and I also said I think Jefferson as the best WR in a very deep class. He likely is.

I've called out as many bust or disappointments ( often picking a better player ) as much as anyone here, only to have fools like you debate me for 2-3 years saying they are good.

And since Rivers is a topic lately, I called out he'd be a great QB. TMC said he'd be out of the league in 4 years. There are dozens of evals on the web. Mine are more likely right that Walter Football or Mike Mayock who loves everybody these days. When you have dozes of options, someone is going to be right that year. Mine is right most years. Troll on, your a fraud, and won't dare to match me.

Another player I liked a lot this year was John Taylor. Gee, how did he turn out?
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interesting. you didnt mention Taylor in your mock. your final mock...

https://steelernationforums.com/sho...ss-Late-March-2020/page3&highlight=2020+draft
4 of Cooch's picks went in the third round
the final two picks went undrafted

Cooch's mock:

Colbert gets an A+ for trading with Fitzpatrick. One of the best safeties in the league, and we've got him for cheap. Very much worth our first-round pick. The additions of Eborn and Wisnewski are short term solutions, which will allow the Steelers to enter this draft with an open mind. The loss of Hargrave, however, downgrades the defense. With Ben back, the defense the way it is, and 7 teams making the playoffs, I feel very confident the Steelers will make the playoffs.

Coach's mock:

Round 2 ) DT/NT Davon Hamilton. Can play 1 or 2 gaps. Big, and strong, with enough ability to make plays outside of his gap. Hamltion can make plays behind the line of scrimmage. Losing Hargrave will hurt both the pass and run defense, and let's be honest, the gap between him and the next man up is pretty wide.

Round 3 ) TE Adam Trutman. An all around TE who can block, run and catch, he had a good senior bowl week. The Steelers signed Ebron ( which could blow up in their faces ) and for now are keeping McDonald, so this is a future type of pick who should play as the two players ahead of him on the depth chart are expensive, have iffy hands, and are injury-prone.

Round 4 ) RB Darrynton Evans - A speed back, who runs well and offers extra value as a return man. Maybe not a workhorse type, he'll add much-needed zip to the offense.

Round 4 ) C Matt Hennessy. More than the sum of his parts, Hennessey can provide depth at C/G and should be able to play if needed. He might not have long term NFL starting ability, but he can be a solid/cheap back up for years, and the Steelers don't have much right now at backup guard or center.

Round 6 ) S JaQuaris Landrews. Good size, speed, and production. Steelers have very little depth at safety

Round 7. P Mann Much better and cheaper than the erratic Berry. A good tackler as well on special teams.
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the
defense
downgraded

holy ****, Cooch. HOLY. ****.
 
Superman said:
interesting. you didnt mention Taylor in your mock. your final mock...

https://steelernationforums.com/sho...ss-Late-March-2020/page3&highlight=2020+draft
4 of Cooch's picks went in the third round
the final two picks went undrafted

Cooch's mock:



the
defense
downgraded

holy ****, Cooch. HOLY. ****.
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[emoji28]And people wonder why he gets picked on. He makes **** up as he goes. I pimped Watt he tried to later lay claim. A few pimped Claypool he tried to later make claim. His prospects aren't hard to figure out look towards the top of a draft where the Steelers don't pick. Or the fastest 40. His evals are stolen from sites as he doesn't know the prospect. When he does do a mock he buries it and never talks about it again. But that mock is a prime example of a guy horrible at evaluations. And he has the nerve to call someone a fraud? Hilarious [emoji38]

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Superman said:
interesting. you didnt mention Taylor in your mock. your final mock...

https://steelernationforums.com/sho...ss-Late-March-2020/page3&highlight=2020+draft
4 of Cooch's picks went in the third round
the final two picks went undrafted

Cooch's mock:



the
defense
downgraded

holy ****, Cooch. HOLY. ****.
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The issue is, had the Steelers Taken one of his lower picks that went in the third actually in the third, he would have screamed that we reached and the guy would have been available later... Which is why you grade drafts on how the players turned out for you five years down the line....
 
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