first pick draft sim

[slashsteel]

Your score is: 19658 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 27 (S.F.):*Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (B)
Round 2 Pick 28:*Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (B-)
Round 3 Pick 6 (S.F.):*Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa (B+)
Round 3 Pick 16 (HOU):*Jerome Baker, OLB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28:*Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina (A+)
Round 4 Pick 8 (T.B.):*Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State (A)
Round 5 Pick 7 (T.B.):*JK Scott, P, Alabama (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11:*Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon (A)
Round 5 Pick 28:*B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A)
Round 6 Pick 28 (T.B.):*Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28:*Steve Ishmael, WR, Syracuse (A)

This draft should upgrade us at Safety and linebacker, two need areas. I felt I stole a TE, upgraded Punter, and added depth to RB, OL and DL.

I doubt our real draft will be this good, then again this is a game with generous trade down offers.

Draft has been solid the last two years, and flooding a simulated draft with picks doesn't guarantee they won't suck up the place.

But what yinz can do is save it, and compare the Steelers picks at the end of the year with yours. See how each turned out.

 

[Coach]

Draft has been solid the last two years, and flooding a simulated draft with picks doesn't guarantee they won't suck up the place.

But what yinz can do is save it, and compare the Steelers picks at the end of the year with yours. See how each turned out.

Last year was excellent. 2016, not so much

Coach's comments:

1 ) Artie Burns - A solid starter but the trade down for the extra third was missed. We could have found Burns later in round one or selected X Howard, who looks to be a better player

2 ) Sean Davis - Give up a lot of yardage, doesn't always play smart. I'll leave it to a 3rd party rating system as to how he stacks up vs other starters.

3 ) Javon Hargrave - Did not play a lot this year. Below average vs the run, limited impact as a pass rusher.

4 ) Jerald Hawkins - Did not dress for many games.

6 ) Travis Feeney -CUT

7 ) Demarcus Ayers - CUT

7 )Tyler Matakevich - Decent on special teams, a journeyman as a starter


Summary: Outside of Burns, this draft was not a good one/

 

[Coach]

For those picking a CB in rounds 1-4, I must ask why.

Burns and Haden are two good starters. Hilton was excellent as the 3rd option / slot and rookie Sutton showed signs he could be a steal in round 3. We've got 4 guys who can play.

Where the heck is a rookie going to play here? Its not a need in my opinion. I say TE, ILB, OLB, or S before CB.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Last year was excellent. 2016, not so much

Coach's comments:

1 ) Artie Burns - A solid starter but the trade down for the extra third was missed. We could have found Burns later in round one or selected X Howard, who looks to be a better player

2 ) Sean Davis - Give up a lot of yardage, doesn't always play smart. I'll leave it to a 3rd party rating system as to how he stacks up vs other starters.

3 ) Javon Hargrave - Did not play a lot this year. Below average vs the run, limited impact as a pass rusher.

4 ) Jerald Hawkins - Did not dress for many games.

6 ) Travis Feeney -CUT

7 ) Demarcus Ayers - CUT

7 )Tyler Matakevich - Decent on special teams, a journeyman as a starter


Summary: Outside of Burns, this draft was not a good one/

1. And you know there was a trade available for what you were asking? Link please.

2. Lead the team in INTs, tackles and was 3rd on PDs. Yeah...leave it to others besides PFF to determine his value.

3. Still don’t know your topic....Hargraves played in all 16 reg season games, started 12 of them. Finished with 2 sacks (one less than Tuitt), in on 30+ tackles (more than Tuitt) has a FF and a PD. He had a back issue which impacted his playoff performance (no excuse though...the whole D line played well below their level).

4. Hawkins is a developmental pick. He got a start this year and played in several games. Even used as a Tackle eligible player. Too early to grade. If Hubbard bolts he may be the swing tackle replacement.

6. 7. No argument there....although Freeney would have been an interesting prospect.

7. Matekevich is a journeyman? He’s in his second with the same team. Was backup to both ILB spots before being injured.

I reiterate.....don’t quit your day job. Your talent evaluation needs more help. You should have listened to TMC more and do the work like Del and Cope.

 

[slashsteel]

Last year was excellent. 2016, not so much

Coach's comments:

1 ) Artie Burns - A solid starter but the trade down for the extra third was missed. We could have found Burns later in round one or selected X Howard, who looks to be a better player

2 ) Sean Davis - Give up a lot of yardage, doesn't always play smart. I'll leave it to a 3rd party rating system as to how he stacks up vs other starters.

3 ) Javon Hargrave - Did not play a lot this year. Below average vs the run, limited impact as a pass rusher.

4 ) Jerald Hawkins - Did not dress for many games.

6 ) Travis Feeney -CUT

7 ) Demarcus Ayers - CUT

7 )Tyler Matakevich - Decent on special teams, a journeyman as a starter


Summary: Outside of Burns, this draft was not a good one/

that isn't a comparison

you make your picks(prior to the draft) you are going with, then compare at the end of the year to the Steelers picks....

yinz should be up to the challenge the way you carry on

hi

 

[Coach]

My comments in orange

1. And you know there was a trade available for what you were asking? Link please.

Yes, it was reported, and Colbert himself said there were trade down options in round one. You won't admit the Steelers made a mistake, and you won't admit X Howard is a better player.

2. Lead the team in INTs, tackles and was 3rd on PDs. Yeah...leave it to others besides PFF to determine his value.

Was beaten often, in the right place at the right time vs bad throws to get interceptions, okay. PFF is very good, and rates several Steelers highly, so you can't say you disagree with them in a macro sense.

3. Still don’t know your topic....Hargraves played in all 16 reg season games, started 12 of them. Finished with 2 sacks (one less than Tuitt), in on 30+ tackles (more than Tuitt) has a FF and a PD. He had a back issue which impacted his playoff performance (no excuse though...the whole D line played well below their level).

Dude. Tell me how often Hargrave was on the field. His snap count is low, because his value was low. He didn't do much and if you watch him is a liability as teams run at him

4. Hawkins is a developmental pick. He got a start this year and played in several games. Even used as a Tackle eligible player. Too early to grade. If Hubbard bolts he may be the swing tackle replacement.

Hubbard is likely to bolt. Hawkins was shaky this summer. He might be okay, I have doubts. So far he did not come close to pushing Hubbard.

6. 7. No argument there....although Freeney would have been an interesting prospect.

Holy cow, we agree. I thought the pick was worth the gamble.

7. Matekevich is a journeyman? He’s in his second with the same team. Was backup to both ILB spots before being injured.

Good on special teams, yes a journeyman in the base defense. Too small, too slow.

I reiterate.....don’t quit your day job. Your talent evaluation needs more help. You should have listened to TMC more and do the work like Del and Cope

No worries, there and if I did, who could educate you on numerous mistakes on football! TMC, you know he pretty much lost all debates with me in hindsight. Yeah, its true. The most recent example is him wanting a small safety in Baker over TJ Watt. Um, sure he was correct! Having said that I welcome him back.


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[Tibs]

I dunno, at this stage all I can think of is how the draft just chews me up and spits me out, each and every year. I spend months on end researching players, doing endless mock drafts, visualizing how the ultimate draft would play out. I check heights and weights, 40 times, watch film, research players, read hundreds of articles, debate players on this board and elsewhere. Then the draft rolls around. I sit back contentedly, thinking I have a pretty good read on things. And each and every year the Steelers draft looks nothing like most anyone had envisioned. Sure, the positions of need are mostly covered, but the actual players and the rounds those players are picked are usually out of left field. It happens basically every year. After draft weekend, I feel like I failed a mid-term exam or something. How could I - and so many mock drafts - been so wrong? How could I spent so much time barking up the wrong tree, falling for the wrong players, thinking I was reading the tea leaves correctly. Only to be left beaten, broken and abused by Colbert, Tomlin and the Steelers draft room. Maybe this year I'll choose a different path and ignore the draft altogether, all the way up until it actually takes place. Each and every pick will be a total shock and revelation. I won't know any players' back story, or even their names, nor will I be disappointed in who we didn't get. Yes, indeed, perhaps this is the year I wean off my draft addiction. Spend more time with my kids, take long walks in the park, fly a kite, visit the zoo. No, I won't know about that sleeper pulling guard out of Southwest Missouri State, but I will have my pride and integrity intact. Maybe this is the year I say enough is enough.

 

[slashsteel]

I dunno, at this stage all I can think of is how the draft just chews me up and spits me out, each and every year. I spend months on end researching players, doing endless mock drafts, visualizing how the ultimate draft would play out. I check heights and weights, 40 times, watch film, research players, read hundreds of articles, debate players on this board and elsewhere. Then the draft rolls around. I sit back contentedly, thinking I have a pretty good read on things. And each and every year the Steelers draft looks nothing like most anyone had envisioned. Sure, the positions of need are mostly covered, but the actual players and the rounds those players are picked are usually out of left field. It happens basically every year. After draft weekend, I feel like I failed a mid-term exam or something. How could I - and so many mock drafts - been so wrong? How could I spent so much time barking up the wrong tree, falling for the wrong players, thinking I was reading the tea leaves correctly. Only to be left beaten, broken and abused by Colbert, Tomlin and the Steelers draft room. Maybe this year I'll choose a different path and ignore the draft altogether, all the way up until it actually takes place. Each and every pick will be a total shock and revelation. I won't know any players' back story, or even their names, nor will I be disappointed in who we didn't get. Yes, indeed, perhaps this is the year I wean off my draft addiction. Spend more time with my kids, take long walks in the park, fly a kite, visit the zoo. No, I won't know about that sleeper pulling guard out of Southwest Missouri State, but I will have my pride and integrity intact. Maybe this is the year I say enough is enough.

Hell nah the draft is too much fun !

 

[Ike Kelly]

My comments in orange

1. Again...link. You don’t have one that says they would have picked up a third.

Burns a mistake? He’s a second year player. No doubt he has growing pains. I give him a couple more years. All the evaluators say his projection is upward. As for Howard, he and Burns have comparable numbers except he had more picks. Artie had a better rookie season for sure. So I’ll take my lumps with him if he works out to be another solid corner with hands.

2. Oh I disagree with PFF entirely. PFF is a is a SME rag. Their proprietary formulas have been panned constantly by expert analytics. It is subjective and the analysts at PFF don’t explain their “tendencies “ assessments.

As usual your “beat often, at the right time” is backed by nothing but your opinion. I won’t disagree he missed assignments on some plays, but other players, Artie, Mitchell and Joe missed some too. Artie missed a big one against the Jags. What you can’t refute is Davis has had a ton of splash plays that are not indicated on the stat sheet. He probably lead all DBs and LB (except Bince) in stops behind scrimmage. Was involved in several turnovers either causing them or receiving them. Let’s hear you refute that. You won’t, because you don’t believe you are ever wrong.

3. “Dude”? (What are you twelve?).

Hargraves wasn’t on the field as much as you think he should because with the 2DL formation he isn’t in that package, but he rotated with Tyson. Just realize the 3/4 isn’t the base package anymore and the run D problems was related to the LB not having gap control (plus losing Ryan, he greatly helped the edge)

7. Go read the definition of a football journeyman genius. You will be enlightened.

Educating me on your observation of mistakes in football? You educate this board well enough on your LACK of football knowledge. However I will give you kudos when deserved. You are exemplary in creating numerous threads, sometimes warranted other times to state the obvious that was already started in another thread. But if that blows sunshine into your life, then whatever.

As for your final comments regarding TMC....you are completely delusional. TMC owned you on every argument you ever made. In fact I suggest Coolie assign your avatar as such.

Buddha Baker had a good rookie season on a different level than Watt because TJ was the starter from the get go. I don’t think Baker started his first game until the latter half of the year. He had a better rookie season than your X Howard, that’s for sure and he looks to be a good football player for the Cardinals. Would sure like to have him to replace Mitchell right now.


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[Turd Ferguson]

Your score is: 22394 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 3 Pick 1 (CLE): Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (A)
Round 3 Pick 3 (IND): Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 7 (DEN): Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (A-)
Round 3 Pick 23 (LAR): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 28: Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama (A)
Round 3 Pick 31 (BUF): Chase Litton, QB, Marshall (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1 (CLE): Greg Gaines, DT, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 4 (IND): D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland (A+)
Round 4 Pick 12 (CINN): Jalyn Holmes, DE, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 24 (LAR): Deontay Burnett, WR, Southern California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1 (CLE): Uchenna Nwosu, OLB, Southern California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 3 (IND): Kyzir White, SS, West Virginia (A)
Round 5 Pick 11: KC McDermott, OG, Miami (FL) (A)
Round 5 Pick 28: Taylor Hearn, OG, Clemson (A)
Round 6 Pick 24 (LAR): David Bright, OT, Stanford (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Austin Roberts, TE, UCLA (A+)

 

[Coach]

1. Again...link. You don’t have one that says they would have picked up a third.

Burns a mistake? He’s a second year player. No doubt he has growing pains. I give him a couple more years. All the evaluators say his projection is upward. As for Howard, he and Burns have comparable numbers except he had more picks. Artie had a better rookie season for sure. So I’ll take my lumps with him if he works out to be another solid corner with hands.

2. Oh I disagree with PFF entirely. PFF is a is a SME rag. Their proprietary formulas have been panned constantly by expert analytics. It is subjective and the analysts at PFF don’t explain their “tendencies “ assessments.

As usual your “beat often, at the right time” is backed by nothing but your opinion. I won’t disagree he missed assignments on some plays, but other players, Artie, Mitchell and Joe missed some too. Artie missed a big one against the Jags. What you can’t refute is Davis has had a ton of splash plays that are not indicated on the stat sheet. He probably lead all DBs and LB (except Bince) in stops behind scrimmage. Was involved in several turnovers either causing them or receiving them. Let’s hear you refute that. You won’t, because you don’t believe you are ever wrong.

3. “Dude”? (What are you twelve?).

Hargraves wasn’t on the field as much as you think he should because with the 2DL formation he isn’t in that package, but he rotated with Tyson. Just realize the 3/4 isn’t the base package anymore and the run D problems was related to the LB not having gap control (plus losing Ryan, he greatly helped the edge)

7. Go read the definition of a football journeyman genius. You will be enlightened.

Educating me on your observation of mistakes in football? You educate this board well enough on your LACK of football knowledge. However I will give you kudos when deserved. You are exemplary in creating numerous threads, sometimes warranted other times to state the obvious that was already started in another thread. But if that blows sunshine into your life, then whatever.

As for your final comments regarding TMC....you are completely delusional. TMC owned you on every argument you ever made. In fact I suggest Coolie assign your avatar as such.

Buddha Baker had a good rookie season on a different level than Watt because TJ was the starter from the get go. I don’t think Baker started his first game until the latter half of the year. He had a better rookie season than your X Howard, that’s for sure and he looks to be a good football player for the Cardinals. Would sure like to have him to replace Mitchell right now.


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Ike,

1 ) It was reported the Broncos offered their first and third, and Arizona was also interested in trading up. Again X Howard ( who I would have picked ) is better and we blew a chance for more picks. ( I liked Simmons in round three at Denver's pick, and he starts ). So there's a replacement for Mitchell, and a cheap one for 4-5 years at that! Burns isn't a bust, but a better player and value passed us by. I'll stand on that. And I'm correct in hindsight as of Jan 2018.

You can look for links. Here's one that talks about it.

http://www.steelers.com/news/draft/...-Round-1/0bf4c60a-610a-4e96-8c45-d7380497931f

With six defensive backs picked, and with the Broncos burning up the telephone lines looking for a trading partner to get themselves a quarterback, the Steelers acted quickly

Time will judge whether Artie Burns becomes the kind of player the Steelers need at the cornerback position, but there can be little argument now about the necessity for the team to address that position at the first available opportunity. Regardless of what the Broncos might have been dangling in a potential trade.

2 ) Which ranking system do you want to use? Davis is not rated high by anyone including football magazines who get opinions from scouts. If you paid attention more than one poster here was upset with Davis.

3 ) I won't call you dude, but pay attention and stop saying if doesn't exist until there is a link and things need to be explained to me ( PFF ), or I'm not buying it. Might I suggest your own homework? If you doubt, the onus is on you to prove. But in this case, I gave you a bone with a link. Once again Colbert himself said there was trade down offers! Do I need to find that link for you too?

4 ) Hargrave wasn't on the field often. So my point on his value stands. He's not among our best four pass rushers ( or 5 ), and he's too short and slow for end. He's below average vs the run, and slow. We can do better.

5 ) Yes, Mitchell needs to be replaced. You got that one right!!! Just to clarify are you saying you wished the Steelers took Budha Baker over T.J.Watt?! Say it if that is what you think or your lack of a reply on this question will answer it for me... you'd rather have Watt and I'm correct. TMC was wrong to want Baker over Watt. Our most famous argument is when I said Rivers would be an outstanding QB in the NFL, TMC though he'd be out of football in 4 years. Sure.

 

[chipped ham]

Ike,

1 ) It was reported the Broncos offered their first and third, and Arizona was also interested in trading up. Again X Howard ( who I would have picked ) is better and we blew a chance for more picks. ( I liked Simmons in round three at Denver's pick, and he starts ). So there's a replacement for Mitchell, and a cheap one for 4-5 years at that! Burns isn't a bust, but a better player and value passed us by. I'll stand on that. And I'm correct in hindsight as of Jan 2018.

You can look for links. Here's one that talks about it.

http://www.steelers.com/news/draft/...-Round-1/0bf4c60a-610a-4e96-8c45-d7380497931f


2 ) Which ranking system do you want to use? Davis is not rated high by anyone including football magazines who get opinions from scouts. If you paid attention more than one poster here was upset with Davis.

3 ) I won't call you dude, but pay attention and stop saying if doesn't exist until there is a link and things need to be explained to me ( PFF ), or I'm not buying it. Might I suggest your own homework? If you doubt, the onus is on you to prove. But in this case, I gave you a bone with a link. Once again Colbert himself said there was trade down offers! Do I need to find that link for you too?

4 ) Hargrave wasn't on the field often. So my point on his value stands. He's not among our best four pass rushers ( or 5 ), and he's too short and slow for end. He's below average vs the run, and slow. We can do better.

5 ) Yes, Mitchell needs to be replaced. You got that one right!!! Just to clarify are you saying you wished the Steelers took Budha Baker over T.J.Watt?! Say it if that is what you think or your lack of a reply on this question will answer it for me... you'd rather have Watt and I'm correct. TMC was wrong to want Baker over Watt. Our most famous argument is when I said Rivers would be an outstanding QB in the NFL, TMC though he'd be out of football in 4 years. Sure.

Man, your famous argument is saying Polamalu wouldn't make it because he had a large head. ALL of SteelerNation knows who you are. You have no credibility whatsoever.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Ike,

1 ) It was reported the Broncos offered their first and third, and Arizona was also interested in trading up. Again X Howard ( who I would have picked ) is better and we blew a chance for more picks. ( I liked Simmons in round three at Denver's pick, and he starts ). So there's a replacement for Mitchell, and a cheap one for 4-5 years at that! Burns isn't a bust, but a better player and value passed us by. I'll stand on that. And I'm correct in hindsight as of Jan 2018.

You can look for links. Here's one that talks about it.

http://www.steelers.com/news/draft/...-Round-1/0bf4c60a-610a-4e96-8c45-d7380497931f


2 ) Which ranking system do you want to use? Davis is not rated high by anyone including football magazines who get opinions from scouts. If you paid attention more than one poster here was upset with Davis.

3 ) I won't call you dude, but pay attention and stop saying if doesn't exist until there is a link and things need to be explained to me ( PFF ), or I'm not buying it. Might I suggest your own homework? If you doubt, the onus is on you to prove. But in this case, I gave you a bone with a link. Once again Colbert himself said there was trade down offers! Do I need to find that link for you too?

4 ) Hargrave wasn't on the field often. So my point on his value stands. He's not among our best four pass rushers ( or 5 ), and he's too short and slow for end. He's below average vs the run, and slow. We can do better.

5 ) Yes, Mitchell needs to be replaced. You got that one right!!! Just to clarify are you saying you wished the Steelers took Budha Baker over T.J.Watt?! Say it if that is what you think or your lack of a reply on this question will answer it for me... you'd rather have Watt and I'm correct. TMC was wrong to want Baker over Watt. Our most famous argument is when I said Rivers would be an outstanding QB in the NFL, TMC though he'd be out of football in 4 years. Sure.

1. Well, thanks for finally providing the link, but Labs only speculated the deal to Seattle would have been the same for the Steelers not that it was. Howard fell to the second round, so obviously he wasn't graded higher than Burns. As mentioned, Xavien only started/played a handful of games his rookie year, Artie played in all 16 and started 9 of them. So you saying he's better is just your opinion with no basis....as for blowing a chance for more picks. You can say that every year. But how often does it work out? All teams with competent GMs (the Polians, Thompsons, etc. say to follow your board. If the best rated player on your board is available you pick them. Stockpiling picks doesn't mean squat. Value is ultimately how good does the player become for the team that selects them? And that takes a couple years.

Correct in hindsight.....Coach, everyone is correct in hindsight. Gheez, you can't argue with stupid so I won't anymore. Just keep idolizing yourself, it entertains us so much.

2. That's your problem, you rank players based upon player to player. You use a rag mag that doesn't anticipate the scheme or personnel around them as a whole. If you want to catalog metrics do so on an analysis from the scheme concept. You say Davis sucks in coverage, when his primary assignment is run support and coverage to Slot and TEs. On a specific formation. He may be put in coverage in the dime and performs well. In fact I think his 3 picks were while in the dime as a roam DB. Which is what his job is supposed to do. Football Outsiders uses Defense - adjusted Value over Average (DVOA). Which takes into account ALL variables and separates them team wise in the type of defense used. i.e. Pass/Run, Short/Mid/Long, WR1/WR2/WR3,TE,RB....etc. This encapsulates the actual efficiency of the squad and where the above the line and below the line play is at. Not the pick and choosing of statistics via a "proprietary" method (which means what THEY think is more important individual rather than situational. And if you watch games you know its all about match ups. Where is it right before the snap).

3. Ok...I know you think you are some genius talent evaluator and probably are more smarter than all the GMs combined in the NFL, but you are not. Your knowledge probably wouldn't handle a Pop Warner league. As suggesting its someone else's onus to do YOUR homework on something that you claim? You are a complete idiot and have no idea about proving a thought or concept. If that is what you believe, then do this....I know you were shut down like a petulant child by TMC about all your musings about your evaluation expertise....including Philip Rivers (who by the way has nothing but statistics...nothing). So in the idiotic ideal you follow, the ONUS is on you to show where you proved TMC arguments didn't hold water to yours.......We know you won't because you and everyone who has been on this board for a while has witnessed TMC showing your ineptness on evaluations and football specifics.

4. Your point stands at Zero value, as does your opinion. He isn;t a primary pass rusher. He's is a hole plugger on run downs with some rush ability on situational football. He had one less sack than Tuitt with less snaps....so in your mind he should be better than Tuitt. Right? Situational football Coach, a staple strategy to the game.

5. Lord almighty, where....WHERE did I say I would've taken Baker over Watt? And so what if TMC wanted Baker over Watt? Half the board wanted someone else over Watt. I wanted Conley over Watt or Njoku if Watt was gone....he went ahead of him. I felt DB was more important than LB in the first round....but what do I know? Watt was drafted and Haden fell into our laps....Get a grip....until you publish works on the subject (TMC has), you are just another fan with an opinion. Yeah your most famous argument....you are like the Captain on the Caine Mutiny....

How about that whopper of a claim about Troy's head? You taking credit for that boneheaded statement?

 

[Stryker]

TMC does thousands of hours breaking down and doing write ups for the top 400 players. Del is nearly as committed to draft analysis.

Coach watches college football, reads publications on the draft, and has opinions. Like most of us here.

When it comes to draft analysis there is TMC and Del, then there is everyone else.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I for one read most if not every post on this board and appreciate the varied opinions as presented. I thank TMC & Delz for their immense contribution but I also thank each individule for their parts as well. I see it as it takes a lot of grains to fill the salt shaker and those grains are like personalities here, some saltier than others. Thank You to all who contribute.



Salute the nation

 

[FordFairLane]

I for one read most if not every post on this board and appreciate the varied opinions as presented. I thank TMC & Delz for their immense contribution but I also thank each individule for their parts as well. I see it as it takes a lot of grains to fill the salt shaker and those grains are like personalities here, some saltier than others. Thank You to all who contribute.



Salute the nation

Exactly. There are all opinions. Before kids and a wife I honestly spent countless hours watching film to try to break down players. Took combine numbers and compared them to my notes to see if they matched up. It was very time intensive but I enjoyed doing it.

Fast forward 10 years a wife and 3 boys of my own. I read publications, look at the combine numbers, then select players I want to watch some tape on. It simplifies things and doesn’t take nearly as much time.

My pride and joy is my mock along mock that I’ve done for 15 years. It’s interesting to see whom I would have taken vs whom was taken. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose but to be honest I’m no worse than out front office which makes me believe it’s a crapshoot no matter what. You might improve your odds with more time and energy but I feel coaching at the next level has way more to do with it than scouting.


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[Stryker]

Exactly. There are all opinions. Before kids and a wife I honestly spent countless hours watching film to try to break down players. Took combine numbers and compared them to my notes to see if they matched up. It was very time intensive but I enjoyed doing it.

Fast forward 10 years a wife and 3 boys of my own. I read publications, look at the combine numbers, then select players I want to watch some tape on. It simplifies things and doesn’t take nearly as much time.

My pride and joy is my mock along mock that I’ve done for 15 years. It’s interesting to see whom I would have taken vs whom was taken. Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose but to be honest I’m no worse than out front office which makes me believe it’s a crapshoot no matter what. You might improve your odds with more time and energy but I feel coaching at the next level has way more to do with it than scouting.


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The only position I'm comfortable evaluating is WR. I played in school, I break down the fundamentals. I've seen enough to know if I like someone's hands, or route running, or work ethic. To a smaller extent I can see things in DB from playing some, and playing against them as a WR.

 

[TDX27]

I just can't pass up Vea if he is there in the 1st round. He is a game changer at NT and that is what we need even if the coaches won't admit it. Picked up Mitchell's replacement in Rd. 2 and another possible starter in Rd. 3. Jewell does everything, has speed and is a tackling machine. Shore up the middle of our D and then go for O.

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 28: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 28: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 28: Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11: Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (A)
Round 5 Pick 28: Josh Adams, RB, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida (A+)

 

[steelerscotty]

A little bit of everything:

Your score is: 21654 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 18 (DAL): Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State (A)
Round 2 Pick 28: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 3 (IND): Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 17 (DAL): Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 28: Donte Jackson, CB, LSU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 4 (IND): Jeff Holland, OLB, Auburn (A)
Round 4 Pick 16 (DAL): Jaylen Samuels, RB/WR, North Carolina State (A)
Round 5 Pick 3 (IND): Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11: Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 5 Pick 28: Skyler Phillips, OG, Idaho State (A)
Round 6 Pick 17 (LAC): Trey Marshall, SS, Florida State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 4 (HOU): Kurt Benkert, QB, Virginia (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Austin Ramesh, FB, Wisconsin (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

 

[slashsteel]

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 28: Rashaan Evans, OLB, Alabama (B+)
Round 2 Pick 28: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 28: Jordan Whitehead, FS, Pittsburgh (A)
Round 5 Pick 11: Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (A)
Round 5 Pick 28: Jordan Lasley, WR, UCLA (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Tegray Scales, ILB, Indiana (B+)

Double upped on a few problem areas for the Steelers.

 

[bermudasteel]

Your score is: 21711 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 10 (MIA): Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas (A-)
Round 3 Pick 3 (IND): Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (A)
Round 3 Pick 9 (MIA): D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 28: Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa (A)
Round 4 Pick 4 (IND): Greg Gaines, DT, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 11 (MIA): Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11: Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 4 (IND): JK Scott, P, Alabama (A+)
Round 7 Pick 3 (IND): Matthew Thomas, OLB, Florida State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Adam Breneman, TE, Massachusetts (A+)

 

[TDX27]

Went a different way in this first one as a top QB was sitting there. Set up the O for the end of Ben's career and for after he is done while adding pieces to the D.

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 10 (MIA): Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
Round 2 Pick 28: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 2 Pick 32 (N.E.): Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 3 (IND): Auden Tate, WR, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 9 (MIA): Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa (A-)
Round 3 Pick 28: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 5 Pick 11: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 28: Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: James Hearns, OLB, Louisville (C+)

This is one of my favorites but still not realistic as we won't trade down like this. Didn't get Vea in Rd. 1 but did get a big nasty NT later. This solidifies the middle of the field and adds nice weapons on O. Hamiltion for PSU is flying under the radar right now. Dude can get open and catch the ball.


Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 32 (N.E.): Rashaan Evans, OLB, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30 (MINN): Malik Jefferson, ILB, Texas (A+)
Round 2 Pick 32 (N.E.): Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 28: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 30 (MINN): Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (A)
Round 5 Pick 11: D.J. Reed, CB, Kansas State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 28: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A)
Round 7 Pick 28: DaeSean Hamilton, WR, Penn State (A)

 

[bermudasteel]

Here's a little wheel and deal that I came up w/...

Your score is: 21441 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 10 (MIA): Rashaan Evans, OLB, Alabama (A)
Round 3 Pick 2 (NYG): Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah (A+)
Round 3 Pick 9 (MIA): Josey Jewell, ILB, Iowa (A-)
Round 3 Pick 28: Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 2 (NYG): Jordan Whitehead, FS, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 4 Pick 11 (MIA): Nyheim Hines, RB, North Carolina State (A)
Round 5 Pick 23 (LAR): JK Scott, P, Alabama (A+)
Round 5 Pick 28: Javon Wims, WR, Georgia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 24 (LAR): Nick Gates, OG, Nebraska (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: David Moa, DE, Boise State (A+)

 

[TDX27]

Going back to reality with no trades. No idea how Smith is there in Rd 1 but you have to take him. I can't see him playing outside at 225. I think he moves to ILB in the NFL. Went D with the top 2 picks but mixed it up overall. I could live with this.

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 28: Roquan Smith, ILB/OLB, Georgia (A+)
Round 2 Pick 28: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 28: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 5 Pick 11: Josh Adams, RB, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 5 Pick 28: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A)
Round 7 Pick 28: Tre'Quan Smith, WR, Central Florida (A+)

 

[steelerscotty]

Your score is: 21323 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 9 (OAK): Rashaan Evans, OLB, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 29 (JAX): Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 11 (OAK): Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (A)
Round 3 Pick 28: Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (A+)
Round 4 Pick 10 (OAK): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 29 (JAX): Jaylen Samuels, RB/WR, North Carolina State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 11: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 5 Pick 28: Andrew Brown, DE, Virginia (A+)
Round 6 Pick 29 (JAX): Deatrick Nichols, CB, South Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 28: Cody OConnell, OG, Washington State (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick