Dri 2.0

[steel dino]

there is no doubting Archers speed and big play potential...

I just don't see him applying this to become a real threat..

What I see when I watch him play, is an extremely undersized player that seems to play "scared" with the ball in his hands....

This is why I do not have high hopes for him...in fact, I don't have him on the Steelers final roster coming out of camp this year.

 

[ark steel]

there is no doubting Archers speed and big play potential...

I just don't see him applying this to become a real threat..

What I see when I watch him play, is an extremely undersized player that seems to play "scared" with the ball in his hands....

This is why I do not have high hopes for him...in fact, I don't have him on the Steelers final roster coming out of camp this year.

It will be tough for him to put it all together. That is where his hard working attitude comes into play, or should.

Unless he has a ******, ****** camp and preseason, I don't see any way he doesn't make the final roster.

 

[Tibs]

I still don't know the logic behind what they saw in Archer's college film, what they thought he would become, how he would fit into the offense

The numbers he put in in college probably had something to do with it, including 3,536 total yards from scrimmage, a 7.2 rushing average and 40 TD's in his career.

Oh, but it was at Kent State, which doesn't count for some reason, cause it's the MAC, he didn't face strong enough competition. As of last year (before this year's draft) there were 74 players in the NFL from the MAC.including Ben, AB, Deebo & Mitchell, among others. I don't understand why the Steelers would be interested in players from such a ****** conference.

So yeah, the Steelers ranked Dri Archer higher on their board than Martaveous Bryant. They had no good reason to do so, just picked his name out of a hat, saw his 40 time and said, **** it, let's draft this kid.

 

[Vader]

And ALL of that is yet to be determined. He got off to a slow start, as do most rookies, so what? How can you be so sure he won't be a McCluster with better speed? How do you know he won't have multiple long TD's where he's not caught in the open field? How do you know he won't turn out to be a great value pick? How do you know he won't line up in the slot and be a matchup nightmare?

The kid is going on his second year, why wouldn't you want to find out what type of player he is, along with the rest of us? Why do you - and others - insist you have all the answers before the guy's had a couple of years under his belt?

This is the fundamental point that you are having an incredibly difficult time understanding. Or you understand perfectly and just enjoy rooting against certain players. All the power to you.

I don't understand why you simply can't read what I've written and comprehend it. It's very simple. I've never said he was a bust. My ENTIRE issue is the Steelers using a 3rd round pick on a player that is injury prone, small, short and has no position in the NFL. I've never said to cut him. Do you understand that? Can you read that clearly enough? You either aren't paying attention or you're doing your typical bait and switch writing style.

Can you understand that? If not I can't help you any more.

 

[Tibs]

My ENTIRE issue is the Steelers using a 3rd round pick on a player that is injury prone, small, short and has no position in the NFL.

And what do plan to do about it? Get in a time machine and travel back to the draft room on May 9th, 2014 and cut the phone lines before the Steelers can call in their pick?

 

[DBS1970]

Steelers OC Todd Haley suggested RB/WR Dri Archer could see "five and six touches a game" next season.
Archer is one of the smallest players in the NFL at 5'8" and 173 pounds, but he's also one of the fastest. He's not big enough to be an every down back, or maybe a running back at all, but Archer can certainly be used as a gadget player in the mold of Percy Harvin. A workload of 5-6 touches a game won't assure Archer fantasy relevance, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. Archer only saw 17 touches across 12 games last season.

It seems a bit quiet in here..

I still don't expect much out of a guy who is smaller than my sister.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Sunny days... everythings,, AAAA O-kayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

 

[Vader]

And what do plan to do about it? Get in a time machine and travel back to the draft room on May 9th, 2014 and cut the phone lines before the Steelers can call in their pick?

There you go with your typical non-sense. You can't talk about anything without this childish ****. Seriously, grow up dude.

 

[Tibs]

There you go with your typical non-sense. You can't talk about anything without this childish ****. Seriously, grow up dude.

 

[Vader]

HAHA you can't handle debate so you have to stoop to pictures? Damn I must have gotten under your skin.

 

[ark steel]

So yeah, the Steelers ranked Dri Archer higher on their board than Martaveous Bryant. They had no good reason to do so, just picked his name out of a hat, saw his 40 time and said, **** it, let's draft this kid.

As I said in the original thread. The. FO was napping, someone woke them up they groggily sorted their spreadsheet by 40 times and made their pick.

 

[ark steel]

I don't understand why you simply can't read what I've written and comprehend it. It's very simple. I've never said he was a bust. My ENTIRE issue is the Steelers using a 3rd round pick on a player that is injury prone, small, short and has no position in the NFL. I've never said to cut him. Do you understand that? Can you read that clearly enough? You either aren't paying attention or you're doing your typical bait and switch writing style.

Can you understand that? If not I can't help you any more.

I don't know what you are saying, then. You are saying he was a waste of a pick, won't make it in the NFL, but you are not saying we should cut him? Why wouldn't you advocate cutting a player like that?

I feel the same about Landry Jones and I think he should be cut.

 

[Vader]

I don't know what you are saying, then. You are saying he was a waste of a pick, won't make it in the NFL, but you are not saying we should cut him? Why wouldn't you advocate cutting a player like that?

I feel the same about Landry Jones and I think he should be cut.

It does no good to cut him. Name the last 3rd round pick cut before his 2nd season. They are under contract and you might as well see what they have. It isn't that hard to understand. I don't like Jones either but seriously who is going to come in and replace him? They'll just draft another 4th - 7th rounder next year. Might as well see what he has right? Really not that difficult.

 

[Wingman]

I don't know what you are saying, then. You are saying he was a waste of a pick, won't make it in the NFL, but you are not saying we should cut him? Why wouldn't you advocate cutting a player like that?

I feel the same about Landry Jones and I think he should be cut.

Great put them on the same bus out of town and add two real football players to the roster.

 

[FordFairLane]

Here's a thought also. Archer was in receivers meetings, running backs meetings, and special teams meetings. That's a lot for a rookie to absorb. Maybe a year in the offense and an off season to train will do a lot for him. McCluster had a big jump in production from year one to year two.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Dri will definately be better than last year. That is a gimme and does stand to reason. How much better, is the wild card. I hope drastic improvement, but even at that it may not be enough. I hope he becomes the BEST decoy / real deal / gimmick / slash player in the NFL, then let the "rog" figure a way to make it illegal.



Salute the nation

 

[FAB802]

I never understood why they would draft a player too scrawny to carry the veteran's pads after practice.

 

[antdrewjosh]

Here's a thought also. Archer was in receivers meetings, running backs meetings, and special teams meetings. That's a lot for a rookie to absorb. Maybe a year in the offense and an off season to train will do a lot for him. McCluster had a big jump in production from year one to year two.

Lets not bring reality into it please. Combine that with the jump from Kent St. You may get what you saw last year. Give him time. Hopefully we can get some of they guy we saw in college

 

[ark steel]

Great put them on the same bus out of town and add two real football players to the roster.

That is fine, if that is the way you feel, but all this bullshit whining about the wasted pick and how he won't make it at any position is ridiculous when you follow up with "I'm not saying he should be cut.".

Now it is, "he is under contract so you might as well keep him to see what you have."

Well, ****, you guys are already telling me we know what we have, and it is ****. You don't need to wait any more to find out. Right?

 

[ark steel]

It does no good to cut him. Name the last 3rd round pick cut before his 2nd season. They are under contract and you might as well see what they have. It isn't that hard to understand. I don't like Jones either but seriously who is going to come in and replace him? They'll just draft another 4th - 7th rounder next year. Might as well see what he has right? Really not that difficult.

But if we already know Archer is **** (which we do, right?) What do we need to wait to see? Is it just going to be a big pile of dry (get it?) turds or a soft steaming pile with a curly cue on top?

 

[Superman]

But if we already know Archer is **** (which we do, right?) What do we need to wait to see? Is it just going to be a big pile of dry (get it?) turds or a soft steaming pile with a curly cue on top?

We also know that Archer has no place in the NFL.

but, may as well keep him.

smh

 

[Vader]

But if we already know Archer is **** (which we do, right?) What do we need to wait to see? Is it just going to be a big pile of dry (get it?) turds or a soft steaming pile with a curly cue on top?

This is why I hate it here sometimes. If anyone dares to say they don't like a pick then you guys all go full core "He is **** and can't do anything". There is no middle with you people. I didn't want to draft Hood either but I also didn't want to cut him after his first year. Why is that so hard for you people to understand?

 

[Vader]

We also know that Archer has no place in the NFL.

but, may as well keep him.

smh

And here we go again. The CJC in full force. He has NO STARTING POSITION. Is that so ******* hard? At best he is a KR/PR even though he hasn't shown anything at either position. But you guys keep twisting everyone's words to fit your agenda... which is typical here.

 

[Wingman]

In looking at the roster and I am counting all of the guys we have there are lots of guys that look like they will have a good future in the nfl. Maybe not starters but at least decent back ups or role players on the team. Wallace who only seems to play when someone is hurt for example is valuable even if he does not have 5 to 6 touches per game because he can come in and play if he has to. He can play the position he is listed for for the whole game not just situational football. Players like him are worth more than what archer is projected as right now, not where he is right now but where he is projected as. I feel the same about landry jones and have my doubts about jarvis jones as well. I would hate to see a team get a player we cut so as to keep one of these guys if it does not look like they are going to be decent at the end of the final cuts.

I think it would be great if all three of these guys turn out to be something special and are worth much more than we thought possible. If archer for example turns into a special team player that is great he will be worth the spot and if he can do anything else it will be icing on the cake. But I hope he has a role on the team even if it is the sixth best wide out he needs to have a spot that he could play in a game if the guys in front of him are hurt and can't play or be a special team player.

 

[Superman]

And here we go again. The CJC in full force. He has NO STARTING POSITION. Is that so ******* hard? At best he is a KR/PR even though he hasn't shown anything at either position. But you guys keep twisting everyone's words to fit your agenda... which is typical here.

YOU - Vader - YOU stated he has no place in the NFL. NOT anyone else. No member of the alleged "CJC" has even said he will be in the HOF. The alleged CJC just says precisely what you do, that he has some value.

Yet since they're not, as Tibs so eloquently put it, "digging his grave" as you are, then they're nut huggers and pom pom wavers.

Optimism. Look it up. Try to embrace the definition.