Dri 2.0

[Confluence]

I think the point is, does the D commit a Blitzer with Bell lined up at WR?

4 wide: Bell, Bryant and Wheaton on one side, AB on the other, Dri in the backfield.

First play -- bubble screen to Bell for 2 yds
Second play -- shovel pass to Dri behind the bubble screen for 1 yd
Third play -- TD to AB skinny post route

Championship!



(no need for blockers)

 

[antdrewjosh]

Great in therory, but Mr. Archer won't be able to pick up a blitzer. Pass blocking proved to be short on Dri's end.....


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No need to keep him in to block. 5 wide basically. Same as when the Steelers go to a empty set.

 

[ark steel]

4 wide: Bell, Bryant and Wheaton on one side, AB on the other, Dri in the backfield.

First play -- bubble screen to Bell for 2 yds
Second play -- shovel pass to Dri behind the bubble screen for 1 yd
Third play -- TD to AB skinny post route

Championship!



(no need for blockers)

Blockers are for *******.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I think the point is, does the D commit a Blitzer with Bell lined up at WR?

4 wide: Bell, Bryant and Wheaton on one side, AB on the other, Dri in the backfield.

First play -- bubble screen to Bell for 2 yds
Second play -- shovel pass to Dri behind the bubble screen for 1 yd
Third play -- TD to AB skinny post route

Championship!



(no need for blockers)

No need to keep him in to block. 5 wide basically. Same as when the Steelers go to a empty set.

Blockers are for *******.

5 Wide........******* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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[Superman]

Blockers are for *******.

...............

 

[Wingman]

...............

I wondered when this or something like it would hit.

 

[Vader]

Well...

A bleacher report article, a quote where Haley wants McCluster to take on more of a RB role, another quote where he is talking about McCluster having a ton of yards in college, and a Trib article where they assume what Haley is looking for then quote him talking again about McCluster. None of that has anything to do with Archer or Haley being tied to the pick because of McCluster. Everything the article said is found in Bell. Bell is a better runner, WR and matchup problem for LBs.

Also Here is Colbert talking specifically about Archer:

"In my mind, return guys are starters," Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert said. "His kick-return ability is unique. It really is special. Whatever he can add to us offensively, we see some value there."

Here is Tomlin:

"This is a guy that is going to create some unique opportunities for us from a package standpoint in terms of him getting identified," coach Mike Tomlin said. "Is he a running back? Is he a wideout? Regardless of position, I think he’s a playmaker. He's a guy that gets yards in chunks and rings up the scoreboard."

They drafted speed at almost every position last year. Shazier was the fastest LB in the draft. Did Haley have a say in drafting him as well? All coaches talk about finding versatile players. The idea that Archer is a Haley pick seems off the mark when the entire draft was obviously drafted with speed in mind and Bell had already filled the "versatile" role on offense.

 

[Tibs]

Vader, you may be onto something. Archer - along with all the other players - were picked through a consensus of coaches, scouts and the front office. So no, technically Archer wasn't "Haley's pick". He was the Steelers' pick.

On that note, you'd be hard pressed to find anybody on the planet that would argue that Todd Haley - as offensive coordinator - did not have some say and agreement with the Steelers picking Archer. Which is what you seem to be arguing, for God knows what reason.

 

[deljzc]

Colbert is an idiot.

Any GM that says return guys are starters needs to be tarred and feathered.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Antonio Brown was our return man,..........wasn't he a starter???? FlUCK colbert he is a bafoon, tard.

Archer, currently isn't a return man and also NOT a starter........


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[Wingman]

Antonio Brown was our return man,..........wasn't he a starter???? FlUCK colbert he is a bafoon, tard.

Archer, currently isn't a return man and also NOT a starter........


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He might be this year. I read one of the articles that interviewed him regarding last year as well as other things. He mentioned several things he did wrong last year in nearly every phase of the game he was tried in. According to him he was doing things wrong and trying too much just to run fast and not setting up his blocks for one thing. He covered a great many things he did wrong so maybe he can fix them. I am not saying at this point he will be a good pick or that I have gone from thinking he is too small to play any position. I will concede that he was very honest in his self-evaluation and some of the things he needs to do to correct the problems. With that in mind before you can fix something you have to know what is wrong I think he is at least to that phase. As to being a player this year may show a better Archer than we had last year, at least he has a list of things to work on. If you add this to the small amount of training from kent state, his huge speed advantage compared to the talent he faced and he may have just not been close to ready to play last year. This year we should get to see if being ready makes a difference.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I most definately want ARCHER to succeed. I always want our players to do the best they can do. Colbert on the other hand, needs to step it up, big time. If anything, i'd hope this is colberts make or gone year. Won't happen though, we make the playoffrs and he will get tenyear..



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[Wingman]

I most definately want ARCHER to succeed. I always want our players to do the best they can do. Colbert on the other hand, needs to step it up, big time. If anything, i'd hope this is colberts make or gone year. Won't happen though, we make the playoffrs and he will get tenyear..



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I think the issue with drafting has not been Colbert, he has been an improvement over his predecessor and seemed to do well when teamed with Cowher. I suspect the process and it's recent problems involve more than Colbert and can include Tomlin, the coordinators, the Rooney family, and quite possibly scouts and position coaches. There have been lots of folks involved and some new people so hanging it all on one guy is a bit much in my opinion, that said if we were looking for the one big change that could have had the most affect it would be the head coaching change. This could be a contributing factory in a number of ways from communicating the player or type of player wanted to philosophy of the team and what type of players are needed to accomplish what you want. It could also be something as simple as trying a different type of player than they targeted before and not being able to work that skill set into the team they had.

At this point looking at the situation and based on the discussion we have had on here for a long time it is likely more complicated than we are privy to and I suspect it is not something that can be hung on any one person. In looking at the titles assigned to the staff many folks believe they can say that it is this guys responsibility and as far as that reasoning goes they have an excellent basis for that argument. The one thing we do not have access to is the inner workings of the team and the informal lines of communication and decision making that take place. With that in mind I would respectfully suggest that the problems with the team are shared by many as are the successes.

 

[Lloyds legend]

I apologize if this has already been posted.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...steelers-to-go-from-rags-to-riches-dri-archer

 

[deljzc]

I apologize if this has already been posted.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...steelers-to-go-from-rags-to-riches-dri-archer

Basically, all the spin we've heard already about why the pick was good a year ago. Obviously, for that writer, last year wasn't Archer's fault at all, it was all on the coaches for not doing enough, not being patient enough and not giving him more chances. And Haley's #1 priority is to find ways to use Archer more this season.

I sure hope they have higher priorities than that.

 

[Superman]

If Dri is as advertised, wouldn't that make our offense more explosive?
if the offense is more explosive, wouldn't that be in our benefit?
if so, wouldn't that mean that Haley should get Dri on the field more often?

nah. let's just revert to pre-Ben and the 3 yards and cloud of dust, 3 yards and cloud of dust, 3 yards and cloud of dust, then punt.

 

[Vader]

I apologize if this has already been posted.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...steelers-to-go-from-rags-to-riches-dri-archer

What a bunch of non-sense. Because X player did this then this means Archer is going to be good. There are former college players faster than Archer sitting at home. It all comes down to speed. Archer is just speed. It has nothing to do with football it's just about speed. Terrible homer article that reaches for any straw to say how good Archer is going to be. Blame the coaches or anyone else but it can't be Archer because he is fast.

 

[Superman]

but ... you don't want to cut him nor play him.
odd

 

[Vader]

but ... you don't want to cut him nor play him.
odd

What's odd is that a team with tons of deficiencies on defense would draft a small, injury prone, no position WR/RB who doesn't return punts. What I want to do with him means nothing. I wouldn't have drafted him.

 

[Wingman]

Colbert is an idiot.

Any GM that says return guys are starters needs to be tarred and feathered.

They might be the first 11 players on the field, that makes them starters.

 

[Superman]

What's odd is that a team with tons of deficiencies on defense would draft a small, injury prone, no position WR/RB who doesn't return punts. What I want to do with him means nothing. I wouldn't have drafted him.

neither would 99% of the board.
though there are just a small percentage of that 99% who continue to roll in the pig **** while the others try to be optimistic.

 

[bermudasteel]

What a bunch of non-sense. Because X player did this then this means Archer is going to be good. There are former college players faster than Archer sitting at home. It all comes down to speed. Archer is just speed. It has nothing to do with football it's just about speed. Terrible homer article that reaches for any straw to say how good Archer is going to be. Blame the coaches or anyone else but it can't be Archer because he is fast.

So the fact that the kid said, "the game was faster than he expected and things are slowing down for him now" - means nothing? It did not help having a kid back there who felt that "bouncing to the outside" because of his speed. Nor did it help having piss poor blocking on KO returns...

 

[Stryker]

Archer can't improve. That's umpossible.......

 

[deljzc]

If the only reason Archer couldn't return kicks worth a damn was the blocking, why didn't Tomlin and the special teams coach put him back into the lineup the last 4-5 games once the blocking improved? Why did they bench him in the first place for Wheaton?

Why did the returns/blocking miraculously get better the minute Wheaton started returning kicks? What a coincidence....

I am confident saying a couple things about Archer:

1. He is not a lost cause on offense, but has an extremely limited playbook. He can't pass block or be left in the backfield under any circumstance.
2. Defenses know when he comes in the game on offense to keep an eye on him as he is about 50% likely to be the target of the play.
3. There is no doubt under ideal circumstances, in space, Archer is a dangerous weapon but those situations are few and far between.
4. I am concerned about his ball security.
5. He is not a natural returner at all. Very little instincts or wiggle to find lanes in the return game. Even if he "breaks one" he will be below average on returns (like a negative yardage run) very often. Not sure hoping for that one great return is worth 10 bad ones.
6. Doubt he ever returns punts again in his career. Not sure his hands are up to it.

That's my assessment of the player now. When everything is "perfect" Archer will look like Flash the superhero. We'll all get super excited. We'll ask why that doesn't happen more often. But plays are rarely "perfect" and I don't see Archer being any type of player to make the most out of even 90% perfect play from those around him.

That's just a big issue.

 

[Superman]

if the return game was working, then why **** with it?