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Deflategate Investigation: Complete ... Awaiting Report.

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Such Bullshit...............lol............they lie like crack addicts. These mutherfuckers will set the house on fire to create enough of a distraction or deflection. Short of seeing the deflation taking place, we KNOW what the **** happened and whom ordered it to happen. No one is being fooled by these clowns and their antics...........comedy at its best. Losers.
 
Ok, I am going to lay this out for the obtuse Pats fans… your team is lying. That is obvious. This report that is trying to explain away the Wells report is full of so many stretches that it cant be taken as anything other than a desperate grasp at avoiding punishment… this isn’t some righteous defense of a good man, its literally the most obvious weasel attempt to not be punished…


First of all it claims Brady NEVER has directly said he wanted balls underinflated, but we know that multiple interviews can be produced where he infers he likes balls that are underinflated and other cases where he complains about the league’s criteria for the inflation of balls.
We also know of one case of a QB from another team accusing them of using practice balls instead of game balls before they could legally provide their own, and another where the league actually sent a warning to the team for doing so.
Tom Brady was the biggest proponent of the rule change, he obviously has a great amount of care about the subject….
That absolutely provides motive.

Secondly the focus is whether the temp that day could have caused the balls to deflate to the point they were… which is wrong… the focal point for the scientific debate is literally like .02 psi… but again, in the grand scheme of things that ultimately doesn’t matter…. Whether there is definitive proof that the balls were physically deflated or not is mostly irrelevant… that a Patriots employee illicitly removed the gameballs for an amount of time after they were taken and measured by the refs is the only thing that you need to focus on here.
Lets put this in perspective, Ryan Braun once challenged a positive drug test because the collector wasn’t able to send the sample by the normal fed-ex on the same day it was collected. The sample was completely sealed in multiple containers, had every seal and signature intact, was stored properly and never left the possession of the certified collector, but because the collector circumvented the typical procedures, the arbitrator ruled that they should suspect the worse scenario of tampering, even though there was no proof of it or reason to suspect it…. Its like that with steroid tests too, if you take a masking agent, the league suspends you because at that point you cant definitively tell whether cheating was happening or not…….
The minute those balls were intentionally taken to the restroom, the rules violation was done… at that point it becomes up to the violators to prove they didn’t cheat, not the league to prove that they did.

Thirdly,at that point the burden of proof lied on the team, and they opted to cooperate a little, until some evidence was found, then they quit. This isn’t a small thing… brady was offered a very simple task of letting his lawyers go through his phone and give the investigation only the texts between these men… they opted not to do that… their reasoning falls short of credible.
Lets point out here that Brady lied about knowing one of them and lied about contact with them… we know this.
Lets also point out that stories have changed multiple times.
Lets also say that the explanations of the texts are absolutely ludicrous and laughable…


I will say this once more… this isn’t criminal law…. The NFL doesnt need to prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt. They simply have to have a logical reason to believe this took place and they can act.
 
Such Bullshit...............lol............they lie like crack addicts. These mutherfuckers will set the house on fire to create enough of a distraction or deflection. Short of seeing the deflation taking place, we KNOW what the **** happened and whom ordered it to happen. No one is being fooled by these clowns and their antics...........comedy at its best. Losers.

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That's what the *'s fans are screamin' around my office...
 
I think they are hurting themselves by giving these stupid *** excuses. Sometimes you just have to man up, admit your mistakes and earn respect back day by day. The *pats attitude is way worse than the cheating they did
 
I think they are hurting themselves by giving these stupid *** excuses. Sometimes you just have to man up, admit your mistakes and earn respect back day by day. The *pats attitude is way worse than the cheating they did

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Nixon resigned his office. For the cheats to have even some of the class he did they would need to give back the Lombardi trophy

but receivers in the 70s used stickum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I think they are hurting themselves by giving these stupid *** excuses. Sometimes you just have to man up, admit your mistakes and earn respect back day by day. The *pats attitude is way worse than the cheating they did

Agreed. Here is the Cheatriots number if anyone wants to let them know what a bunch a whiners they are.

1 PATRIOT PLACE
FOXBOROUGH, MA 02035
(508) 543-8200
 
For all of this additional lying and trying to cover this up, I hope Goddelll increases their penalties. Hey, if he can reduce it, he sure can increase it. I know, wishful thinking but the Cheatriots are beyond reproach. Brady and Hoody deserved a year off.
 
For all of this additional lying and trying to cover this up, I hope Goddelll increases their penalties. Hey, if he can reduce it, he sure can increase it. I know, wishful thinking but the Cheatriots are beyond reproach. Brady and Hoody deserved a year off.

true dat
 
I like how they Patriots are crying about not having enough to go on. Of course not, Brady wouldn't cooperate, obstructed the investigation. The league rules state that teams and players must fully comply. He didn't. Now he has to pay a penalty. I wish the league would say that the suspension is just for the obstruction and then add more for the alleged infraction. That indeed would be justice
 
we know that won't happen. The only way is that they keep pushing and it all becomes a federal investigation. Then the **** would really hit the fan
 
Agreed. Here is the Cheatriots number if anyone wants to let them know what a bunch a whiners they are.

1 PATRIOT PLACE
FOXBOROUGH, MA 02035
(508) 543-8200

I think I will mail them a ball pump and a box of needles.
 
I think they are hurting themselves by giving these stupid *** excuses. Sometimes you just have to man up, admit your mistakes and earn respect back day by day. The *pats attitude is way worse than the cheating they did

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Litos,

This dead on! Just man up. "I blew it. WE blew it." To say that their explanations strain credulity would be a gross understatement.

Good grief!

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I think I will mail them a ball pump and a box of needles.

I think we should all mail them a large turd. The post office has to deliver it, just wrap it properly. Send some to goodel as well, mark it personal and confidential so the staff won't open it.
 
Kraft suspended both those guys BEFORE the league did. Now he claims they didnt do anything wrong. REALLY? Then why did YOU suspend them Mr. Kraft?

They should sue Kraft ... lolz, the irony.
 
Roger is going to hear Brady's appeal himself. This should be interesting.

Ed Werder@Edwerderespn

Roger Goodell invokes his right under CBA to preside over Tom Brady appeal, per souce, as @mikefreemanNFL first reported


Ed Werder@Edwerderespn

Roger Goodell hearing Tom Brady appeal. Hired Ted Wells to investigate. Deferred punishment to Troy Vincent but approved it as justifiable
 
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You would think after all those nimrod patriot fans who though Hernendez was walking due to "lack of real evidence" would have learned that they are too stupid or ignorant to know what evidence actually is...

Also I am a bit cynical about Goodell recusing himself form the early investigation and now hearing the appeal... the conflict of interest is still there
 
Agreed madinsomniac.... This is only going to cause more skepticism regardless of his ruling.

Rog continues to make the NFL into his circus.
 
Kraft suspended both those guys BEFORE the league did. Now he claims they didnt do anything wrong. REALLY? Then why did YOU suspend them Mr. Kraft?

The cover up spin has begun... see according to leaks from the team... they were suspended and going to be fired for stealing merchandise... nothing to do with deflategate... just another in an uncanny (and unbelieveable) string of coincidences
 
This is one of the BEST things that is happening. The cheatriots**** are appealing, tom brady is appealing. THIS will open uip the proverbial can of worms. The harder the chats protest, the MORE open things will become. There are players claiming of headset malfunction in "08" at Foxborough field, imagine that?? These fuctards, are bringing more down on themselves and I love the crumble. I hope more and more becomes public, open to information, all the way back to the hoodie hire. Burn baby burn



Salute the nation
 
The cover up spin has begun... see according to leaks from the team... they were suspended and going to be fired for stealing merchandise... nothing to do with deflategate... just another in an uncanny (and unbelieveable) string of coincidences

Wait a minute ... the Pats** will admit that these guys are thieves ... Then state "but they're 'honest' thieves who would never deflate footballs for Tom Brady or anyone else." ... in the immortal words of Jastremski: "OMG" :rolleyes:
 
If the rog wants to get in my good graces then he should hear the appeal and then double all suspensions, fines, and draft pick losses because of that bullshit secondary report. It would be the right thing to do.
 
So the buzz is that the Pats public release of the disputing report broke further NFL rules by discussing diciplinary matters outside of league offices.
 
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