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Covid Vaccine

How can you be so unaware and misinformed? Here’s four more **** sandwiches, eat up.




nice of you to stay up-to-date

wall street journal article dated Sept. 13, 2021
ncdhhs article dated Aug 27, 2021
record-eagle article dated Dec 7, 2021
pbs article dated Nov 10, 2021
 
How can you be so unaware and misinformed? Here’s four more **** sandwiches, eat up.





You said "The point of “75% of vaccinated deaths having four comorbidities” is that the same thing cannot be said of the unvaccinated that died. They were generally younger and healthier by comparison."

You have provided nothing so far that shows that the people who were unvaxed and dying didn't also have 4 comorbidities. Your claim was they were both younger AND healthier.

We already know for instance that of the scant few under 18 year olds who died of Covid, 100% of them had other ailments. Same for nearly every age group. Covid doesn't kill the healthy except in rare circumstances.

All you've provided are anecdotal interviews citing a rise in younger, not "healthier." So prove that Covid is killing more younger AND healthier people. I.e., show that those it's killing that are younger are HEALTHY as well.

I want you to show proof that there is a rise in both younger people dying that are also HEALTHY.

Good luck.

Meanwhile, per Our World in Data, from April 10 to Oct 30 last year, the rate of death among the 80+ year old vaccinated population increased by 3.68 in deaths per 100K while the deaths among the unvaccinated 80+ year olds increased by only 3.13.
 
Meanwhile, per Our World in Data, from April 10 to Oct 30 last year, the rate of death among the 80+ year old vaccinated population increased by 3.68 in deaths per 100K while the deaths among the unvaccinated 80+ year olds increased by only 3.13.
so its the vaxxed keeping the unvaxxed safe!
/Flog
 
Meanwhile on this bogey man claim that deaths are increasing among younger and healthier people. From the time period during which Floggy posted his dated articles:

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In every single age group except 80+, you see exactly the same trend. Falling death rates among the vaxed and unvaxed. NOT INCREASES.

The only increase you see is in the rise in 80+ VACCINATED deaths.

This is data. Not an interview with a doctor in the Munson Health Care system in a region of Michigan where the largest "city" is 16,000 people. This is the whole USA.
 

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Thank you Gov Younkin, thank you.

Glenn Youngkin hires Dr. Marty Makary as Covid advisor​

Glenn Youngkin announced that his Medical Advisory Team will be led by Dr. Marty Makary, along with Nancy Agee, Kathy Gorman, Alan Levine, Dr. Bogdan Neughebaeur, and Anand Shah.

Dr. Marty Makary is a surgical oncologist and chief of the Johns Hopkins Islet Transplant Center. Makary has also served as a contributor to Fox News as a critic regarding some of the statements by Fauci and Walensky.

Makary blasted the push for giving young people booster vaccines, saying, “We have a modern-day McCarthyism if somebody asks a question about boosters in young people.”

Makary began by asserting, “I would like to personally ask you to consider new scientific data that tells us that some COVID policies have become too extreme, too rigid, and are no longer driven by clinical data. Take, for example, boosters in children who have already had COVID: when Pharma announced on Wednesday that they did a lab experiment that shows that boosters raise antibodies against Omicron without releasing the underlying scientific data, the CDC immediately urged everyone 16, and 17 years old to get a booster. Is this what we’ve come to? Pharma tells people what to do in a press release and the CDC just falls in line?”

“Meanwhile, Germany just reported that no healthy child five through 17 has ever died of COVID in the first 15 months of their pandemic, with nearly all of those children unvaccinated,” he continued. “The CDC has never told us if any COVID deaths in children have been in healthy children. … Now, I’m very pro-vaccine, I’ve been vaccinated, but we have a modern-day McCarthyism if somebody asks a question about boosters in young people.
Remember, just 12 weeks ago, the FDA external experts voted against boosters for everybody by a 16-2 vote and for good reasons. But weeks after that vote the FDA made another internal push to ream through boosters for all, but this time they inexplicably did not convene their experts, their external experts; the CDC did the same.”


Johns Hopkins' Dr. Marty Makary unveils so many Covid truth bombs

 
Well that shouldn't happen, should it? The vaccines work, right?

Vaccinated Brazilian model dies of Covid at 18​

The daughter of a famous Brazilian journalist had two Pfizer shots



Tweet translated: "Brazilian model Valentina Boscardin dies of Covid at age 18" They say that COVID caused a thrombosis. The truth is that he had received the 2 doses of the Pfizer vaccine. The question is: are consequences of vaccines being disguised, as consequences of COVID?
 
Well that shouldn't happen, should it? The vaccines work, right?

Vaccinated Brazilian model dies of Covid at 18​

The daughter of a famous Brazilian journalist had two Pfizer shots



Tweet translated: "Brazilian model Valentina Boscardin dies of Covid at age 18" They say that COVID caused a thrombosis. The truth is that he had received the 2 doses of the Pfizer vaccine. The question is: are consequences of vaccines being disguised, as consequences of COVID?

"How many is a brazillian?" / Flog
 

People will cry conspiracy.

Facts: Gates has campaigned before on depopulation. Indisputable.
Facts: Gates has been deeply involved in the development of and evangelization of these vaccines.

Bill Gates presented this on Ted Talk in 2010.


Bill Gates plans on Depopulation of 1.05 Billion people and is clearly stated here with a aim of killing these numbers. His aim was to reduce the population by 10-15% of the current population
Today we have 7b people.
10% of 7b = 700m
15% of 7b = 1.05b
That is simple math - as he mentioned.

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Not sure how you can twist his words.
 
are you now saying that the body's natural immune system might help stave off sickness and disease? oh, my. how intellectual of you to come to this startling revelation. truly a scholar.
It’s always the immune system that staves off sickness, the vaccine provides a blue print on how to do it.
 
No you ******* dipshit, this isn't about math. It's about accurate reporting to the American public, eliminating deceptive and/or erroneous practices, as we have been calling for for 2 years.

It doesn't matter if you have 1 or a million deaths, it doesn't matter if contagion is mild or defcon5, it doesn't matter if the IFR is high or low....you report the truth.
First of all, we’re talking about Covid hospitalizations, not deaths.

The US is seeing almost 800,000 new cases/day. Some of those people will need to be hospitalized with other diseases while they have Covid and that number is many times more than when the US was seeing only 30, 40, 50,000 cases/day. 800/50 = 16X. Math. One is trivial, 16X and it becomes relevant.
 
Exactly that. The overall Covid deaths numbers in the USA have been overinflated and the story around them is crashing down.

In 2020, every person who had covid or was suspected of having had covid, even if shot in the head, was called covid death. That inflated the numbers.
Hospitals were paid extra money for each covid case.
On...
and on....
and on.

The numbers we have been given will never be cleaned up they are so damaged. We will never know the true numbers.

And data like this shows that what we have been fed is bullshit. Vaccinated or not, if you have 4 comorbidities, there's a super high chance your death was likely caused by one of those instead of Covid. The CDC is admitting as such. As they should have in 2020.
She wasn’t talking about overall deaths, she was talking SPECIFICALLY about VACCINATED deaths. You claimed that you were aware of that. Extrapolating to overall deaths is taking her statement OUT OF CONTEXT.
 
That's how mine was. Got real hot day one, showered, it came down. That was a Friday. I battled a low fever for 5-6 days. Weird how persistent it was.
It’s annoying. Then it’s sneaky. You’ll feel better then symptoms creep back.

Body aches and chills are finally gone. Had a fever this morning which seems gone but I now have a minor sore throat and earache
 
It’s always the immune system that staves off sickness, the vaccine provides a blue print on how to do it.
how bizarre! you're suggesting that the immune system is a natural system that can provide a way for the body to become immune to various diseases, sicknesses and illness? wow. please, tell us more.
 
You said "The point of “75% of vaccinated deaths having four comorbidities” is that the same thing cannot be said of the unvaccinated that died. They were generally younger and healthier by comparison."

You have provided nothing so far that shows that the people who were unvaxed and dying didn't also have 4 comorbidities. Your claim was they were both younger AND healthier.

We already know for instance that of the scant few under 18 year olds who died of Covid, 100% of them had other ailments. Same for nearly every age group. Covid doesn't kill the healthy except in rare circumstances.

All you've provided are anecdotal interviews citing a rise in younger, not "healthier." So prove that Covid is killing more younger AND healthier people. I.e., show that those it's killing that are younger are HEALTHY as well.

I want you to show proof that there is a rise in both younger people dying that are also HEALTHY.

Good luck.

Meanwhile, per Our World in Data, from April 10 to Oct 30 last year, the rate of death among the 80+ year old vaccinated population increased by 3.68 in deaths per 100K while the deaths among the unvaccinated 80+ year olds increased by only 3.13.
Your fanatical anti-vax ideology has led you to be completely unhinged from reality.

Morbidity increases with age. This was well established long before Covid came along.

From the articles:

187 unvaccinated deaths vs 8 vaccinated deaths among the under 65 age group.
215 unvaccinated deaths vs 67 vaccinated deaths among the 65 and older age group.

It controls for age. Are you seriously arguing that those differences can be attributed to comorbidity among the unvaccinated?
 
It’ll matter to the people needing an ICU bed and the people trying to find them one.



Again this is due to staffing not hospital overloads…. I went to the er after the game Sunday…. Walked in and was taken back within 15 minutes… the er was as slow as I've ever seen it… yet rooms were at a premium …

Every single doctor or nurse i had was training an intern… they cannot keep staff… its a downward spiral

All these articles about bed shortages are made to sound like the hospitals are overflowing with patients due to so many being treated…. But they all have tons of closed wards, vacant due to lack of sufficient staff
 
People will cry conspiracy.

Facts: Gates has campaigned before on depopulation. Indisputable.
Facts: Gates has been deeply involved in the development of and evangelization of these vaccines.

Bill Gates presented this on Ted Talk in 2010.


Bill Gates plans on Depopulation of 1.05 Billion people and is clearly stated here with a aim of killing these numbers. His aim was to reduce the population by 10-15% of the current population
Today we have 7b people.
10% of 7b = 700m
15% of 7b = 1.05b
That is simple math - as he mentioned.

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Not sure how you can twist his words.



He can should be one of the ones slated for death. He should have stuck to software. ******* jagoff.
 
Your fanatical anti-vax ideology has led you to be completely unhinged from reality.

Morbidity increases with age. This was well established long before Covid came along.


From the articles:

187 unvaccinated deaths vs 8 vaccinated deaths among the under 65 age group.
215 unvaccinated deaths vs 67 vaccinated deaths among the 65 and older age group.

It controls for age. Are you seriously arguing that those differences can be attributed to comorbidity among the unvaccinated?
so you're now saying that those deaths in new york, new jersey, pennsylvania that occurred in nursing homes and assisted living facilities (looking at you, jitter) do not count?
 
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COVID CASES USA
767,547 JAN 11 2022
226,316 JAN 11 2021

DEATHS
2,654 JAN 11 2022
2,048 JAN 11 2021


The shots don't work.

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Flog and Tibbbs might pull the head off and bleed out. if so, and they have the WooFloo but are asymptomatic, are their deaths Rona-related?





 
First of all, we’re talking about Covid hospitalizations, not deaths.

The US is seeing almost 800,000 new cases/day. Some of those people will need to be hospitalized with other diseases while they have Covid and that number is many times more than when the US was seeing only 30, 40, 50,000 cases/day. 800/50 = 16X. Math. One is trivial, 16X and it becomes relevant.

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Could we stay on topic???

The topic isn't hospitalizations or deaths or cases. The topic has been from the moment it was injected into this thread erroneous data. Misrepresented, over-counted, erroneous data.

None of the blithering bullshit word salad you offered changes the fact that the counting of COVID should be accurate. We should be discerning between WITH Covid and BECAUSE of Covid. WITH Covid got us to death numbers that are drastically over-inflated.

The fact that you are arguing AGAINST accurate reporting and you want falsified data shows that this truly is ideology and religion for you. You want it to go on.
 
She wasn’t talking about overall deaths, she was talking SPECIFICALLY about VACCINATED deaths. You claimed that you were aware of that. Extrapolating to overall deaths is taking her statement OUT OF CONTEXT.

Oh for ***** sake, you couldn't interpret the following sentence if you had an English professor interpreting it for you.

"The End."

Never have I dealt with someone so poorly equipped to read simple English and interpret it.

The numbers are crashing down stands. That was the intent of the post. Meaning everything we have been fed for 2 years has been falsified or wrong or in error or miscounted and flat out wrong. <-----can you interpret that?

Her admission is one chapter in that book. The 75% of vaccinated people who died having 4 comorbidities is a grave admission of defeat. You don't see it. The CDC's admission that they weren't differing in counting Covid deaths as WITH or BECAUSE of Covid is a grave admission of defeat. You don't see that either.

The narrative around "Covid Death Numbers" is crashing down.

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You’ll feel better then symptoms creep back.

That was indeed annoying. Same. I'd wake up and be like 'yep it's gone today' and 2 hours later be like **** I feel like **** again. Then I'd wake up feeling like ****, mid day be ok, then fall back into it again.

It will improve. Good luck!
 
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