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Covid Vaccine

Troglodyte said:
Your fanatical anti-vax ideology has led you to be completely unhinged from reality.

Morbidity increases with age. This was well established long before Covid came along.

From the articles:

187 unvaccinated deaths vs 8 vaccinated deaths among the under 65 age group.
215 unvaccinated deaths vs 67 vaccinated deaths among the 65 and older age group.

It controls for age. Are you seriously arguing that those differences can be attributed to comorbidity among the unvaccinated?
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I provided you with graphs and that data doesn't lie. From April to October, death rates declined in EVERY age category except one: 80+ year old vaccinated people actually had an INCREASE in their death rate.

Your articles are bullshit when presented against the data.

Make up a new dialogue Flogtard. We'll crush that one too.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
That was indeed annoying. Same. I'd wake up and be like 'yep it's gone today' and 2 hours later be like **** I feel like **** again. Then I'd wake up feeling like ****, mid day be ok, then fall back into it again.

It will improve. Good luck!
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That is me right now. All of sunday I was out of it. Watched the Steelers game laying down. Monday I was able to get up, had an appetite so I ate. Breakfast burritos, chocolate chip cookies. I was hungry but was really fevery and achey. Drank some beer cause my Dawgs played on monday. The alcohol seemed to lessen the symptoms. But anytime the buzz wore off, the symptoms got bad. Tuesday morning. Definitely felt horrible but once I got out of bed and moving I felt fine. Just dizzy, burning eyes. Got hit with a fever last night watching the Pens game.


I feel fine today. Woke up fevery but it disappeared as soon as I got out of bed. Today has been more minor aches. Sore throat and an earache.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
People will cry conspiracy.

Facts: Gates has campaigned before on depopulation. Indisputable.
Facts: Gates has been deeply involved in the development of and evangelization of these vaccines.

Bill Gates presented this on Ted Talk in 2010.


Bill Gates plans on Depopulation of 1.05 Billion people and is clearly stated here with a aim of killing these numbers. His aim was to reduce the population by 10-15% of the current population
Today we have 7b people.
10% of 7b = 700m
15% of 7b = 1.05b
That is simple math - as he mentioned.

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Not sure how you can twist his words.
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he's buying up tons of farmland too. So are the Chinese. Somehow we are allowing China to buy American farmland. Nothing nefarious there.
 
MTC said:
That is me right now. All of sunday I was out of it. Watched the Steelers game laying down. Monday I was able to get up, had an appetite so I ate. Breakfast burritos, chocolate chip cookies. I was hungry but was really fevery and achey. Drank some beer cause my Dawgs played on monday. The alcohol seemed to lessen the symptoms. But anytime the buzz wore off, the symptoms got bad. Tuesday morning. Definitely felt horrible but once I got out of bed and moving I felt fine. Just dizzy, burning eyes. Got hit with a fever last night watching the Pens game.


I feel fine today. Woke up fevery but it disappeared as soon as I got out of bed. Today has been more minor aches. Sore throat and an earache.
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So funny. I tried the alcohol gig twice when I had Covid. Beers tasted like **** but made me feel good. Then later on, I'd drift right back into the Covid ****.

Just keep riding it like a wave. You'll hit the shore.

Be well!
 
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Tim Steelersfan said:
People will cry conspiracy.
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Hell, what else ya supposed to call it? Too much evidence for anything comprehensive.

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Then we have headlines like this everyday and nobody questions what planet these peoples came from.

Democrats support photo ID to dine out in D.C. but oppose it for voting absentee​

justthenews.com

Democrats support photo ID to dine out in D.C. but oppose it for voting absentee

The nation's capital under Democratic Mayor Muriel Bowser is set to institute some of the nation's strictest COVID measures, effective Saturday.
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More from Australia. Thankfully, not nearly as violent this time.

This is the type of world Tibsticle and Floggy hope and pray for, along with millions of others.





MESSAGE FROM CAFE OWNER

“This Lady peacefully left the cafe when the police entered and waited outside. It wasn’t until the police finished checking all patrons that all 5 focused on her and insisted she show her vaccination status. She politely said she would provide her name and address but declines sharing her medical records. They pushed and pushed to try get her to hand over her phone and when she refused, they said she is under arrest. We asked for what? There is nothing in the mandate that says you can be arrested for not showing, but says you can be made to leave a venue. Which she did on her own accord. They said she is obstructing justice.”

“Just wanting to sit down and enjoy a cup like a normal human being and was arrested, bruised, put in a holding cell for 2 hours, finger printed, given a $1300 fine, a court date and treated like a criminal. For having a cup of coffee and for whatever reason, not wanting to show her PRIVATE medical information.”
 
To a point I blame the police. Wtf are you doing supporting this bs. Why would you continue to do that to your citizens is beyond me.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
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Could we stay on topic???

The topic isn't hospitalizations or deaths or cases. The topic has been from the moment it was injected into this thread erroneous data. Misrepresented, over-counted, erroneous data.

None of the blithering bullshit word salad you offered changes the fact that the counting of COVID should be accurate. We should be discerning between WITH Covid and BECAUSE of Covid. WITH Covid got us to death numbers that are drastically over-inflated.

The fact that you are arguing AGAINST accurate reporting and you want falsified data shows that this truly is ideology and religion for you. You want it to go on.
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Strawman. Where did I argue against accurate reporting?

The more common Covid is, the more likely that people hospitalized with other disease will also have Covid. True or False?

The more common something is the more relevant it is. True or False?

It’s not that hard.

Not sure how you determine that deaths are drastically overinflated. What you are essentially arguing is that many thousands? tens of thousands? hundreds of thousands? of people who were about to die regardless, happened to get infected with Covid right before their death. Immunocompromised or otherwise ill does not equal imminent death. Covid contributed to virtually every Covid death.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
I provided you with graphs and that data doesn't lie. From April to October, death rates declined in EVERY age category except one: 80+ year old vaccinated people actually had an INCREASE in their death rate.

Your articles are bullshit when presented against the data.

Make up a new dialogue Flogtard. We'll crush that one too.
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I’m familiar. You take studies and data and draw your own conclusions, not those of the study. You haven’t figured something out or noticed something that medical science has missed. To think otherwise is a delusion of grandeur.
 

Great video, thank you sir​

American Airlines pilot speaks out against Vaccine​



Greg Pearson is a pilot for American Airlines

Rapid onset atrial fibrillation after the mRNA injection
 
Troglodyte said:
Strawman. Where did I argue against accurate reporting?
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Actually retard, you began with the strawman when you stuck your nose into the thread and replied taking it way from the...

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The point of the post is, was, will always be about accurate reporting. You twisting and genuflecting speaking your unintelligible gibberish is nothing BUT strawman in this instance.

Troglodyte said:
The more common Covid is, the more likely that people hospitalized with other disease will also have Covid. True or False?

The more common something is the more relevant it is. True or False?

It’s not that hard.
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Moron, SMDH. You seriously are mentally challenged. When you have error-ridden reporting and cases increase, so too do the errors. You get...more...of...them.

Troglodyte said:
Not sure how you determine that deaths are drastically overinflated.
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Oh, I don't know...because Rochelle ******* Walensky told us they (meaning the nation, doctors, hospitals, medical transcribers) have been erroneously tabulating Covid deaths and she said we need to account for cases WITH Covid instead of BECAUSE of Covid?? It's been a NATION WIDE practice driven by CDC guidance affecting ALL medical establishments nationwide.

Troglodyte said:
Immunocompromised or otherwise ill does not equal imminent death. Covid contributed to virtually every Covid death.
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Dipshit:
A lifelong smoker isn't listed as a smoking death on the death cert when they die of lung cancer. It's classified as...lung cancer.
A lifelong twinkie eater isn't listed as a junk food death on the death cert when they die of diabetes. It's classified as...a diabetic death.

Likewise...now stay with me...when someone dies of a gunshot wound and has Covid...it's not a Covid death. Or a heart attack.

Every doctor has to put a cause of death. They don't list them all, including the hangnail the victim may have been suffering from.

You truly are this dumb.
 
Troglodyte said:
I’m familiar. You take studies and data and draw your own conclusions, not those of the study. You haven’t figured something out or noticed something that medical science has missed. To think otherwise is a delusion of grandeur.
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There's no conclusion to be drawn but the one answer.

Every age group in every vax status saw death rates drop. You can't spin that.

Your articles, the fear porn you're pushing, says "doctors" saw increases in deaths of younger age groups.

They are factually wrong.

You lose because that can't be spun.
 
Troglodyte said:
It’s always the immune system that staves off sickness.
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Yep, and the way the Spanish Flu faded away, and pretty much every virus before that in the history of man.
Covid too will fizzle out.

Speaking of the Spanish Flu, can you imagine the reaction if it first arrived here today, without a vaccine?
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Yep, and the way the Spanish Flu faded away, and pretty much every virus before that in the history of man.
Covid too will fizzle out.

Speaking of the Spanish Flu, can you imagine the reaction if it first arrived here today, without a vaccine?
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Agreed---I hear ya Zona...

But if it happened today...you could bet your bottom dollar that it wouldn't be called the Spanish Flu.

Would the Iberian Flu be acceptable??
 
steel dino said:
Agreed---I hear ya Zona...

But if it happened today...you could bet your bottom dollar that it wouldn't be called the Spanish Flu.

Would the Iberian Flu be acceptable??
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Iberian? No way. Peninsulas are too phalic.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Actually retard, you began with the strawman when you stuck your nose into the thread and replied taking it way from the...

200w.webp


The point of the post is, was, will always be about accurate reporting. You twisting and genuflecting speaking your unintelligible gibberish is nothing BUT strawman in this instance.



Moron, SMDH. You seriously are mentally challenged. When you have error-ridden reporting and cases increase, so too do the errors. You get...more...of...them.



Oh, I don't know...because Rochelle ******* Walensky told us they (meaning the nation, doctors, hospitals, medical transcribers) have been erroneously tabulating Covid deaths and she said we need to account for cases WITH Covid instead of BECAUSE of Covid?? It's been a NATION WIDE practice driven by CDC guidance affecting ALL medical establishments nationwide.



Dipshit:
A lifelong smoker isn't listed as a smoking death on the death cert when they die of lung cancer. It's classified as...lung cancer.
A lifelong twinkie eater isn't listed as a junk food death on the death cert when they die of diabetes. It's classified as...a diabetic death.

Likewise...now stay with me...when someone dies of a gunshot wound and has Covid...it's not a Covid death. Or a heart attack.

Every doctor has to put a cause of death. They don't list them all, including the hangnail the victim may have been suffering from.

You truly are this dumb.
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Case in point. Where did Walensky mention anything about erroneous tabulation of Covid deaths? That is YOUR delusional conclusion.

Covid is an ACUTE disease, not a chronic condition. It’s not diabetes, it’s not cancer, or any other comorbidity that people actively live with for years. How can you conclude that the many thousands of people with comorbidity that died coincidentally had Covid at the time and it was completely irrelevant to their death?
 
Troglodyte said:
Case in point. Where did Walensky mention anything about erroneous tabulation of Covid deaths?
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Suck on that. She admits Covid patients labeled as Covid patients aren't all there because of Covid but because of some other ailment but will be labeled as Covid patients as all have been for the past two years. People who die from Covid do so in the hospital. If 40% of your patients come to the hospital with Covid and a gunshot wound, and die, the death ain't be from no Covid but will be labeled as a Covid death as again has been da case for 2 years.


Troglodyte said:
Covid is an ACUTE disease, not a chronic condition. It’s not diabetes, it’s not cancer, or any other comorbidity that people actively live with for years. How can you conclude that the many thousands of people with comorbidity that died coincidentally had Covid at the time and it was completely irrelevant to their death?
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So you're saying that 100% of deaths from Covid are from Covid and you can't fathom that people can die WITH Covid and not at all due to it?

Your brilliance is on full display.
 
Troglodyte said:
Strawman. Where did I argue against accurate reporting?

The more common Covid is, the more likely that people hospitalized with other disease will also have Covid. True or False?

The more common something is the more relevant it is. True or False?

It’s not that hard.

Not sure how you determine that deaths are drastically overinflated. What you are essentially arguing is that many thousands? tens of thousands? hundreds of thousands? of people who were about to die regardless, happened to get infected with Covid right before their death. Immunocompromised or otherwise ill does not equal imminent death. Covid contributed to virtually every Covid death.
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is a brazillian and one
 
I can see how the tabulations were done in error.

if a person arrives at a hospital, and are tested to be positive for covid, it's likely that is listed first and foremost on the chart.
that way the docs and nurses can take extra precaution if necessary.

however, its also likely that covid is listed on the death cert since the patient was admitted with it.

determining if the patient died WITH covid or because of covid should be of drastic importance. for, if we know that many, many less people have died from covid, the mandates and all that goes with those will lose importance.
 
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