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Covid Vaccine

The “poison” isn’t so scary, Tim…


You might try finding recent articles if you want to play the linky game you suck at (this is an example). That one was from waaayyyyy back when reported deaths due to the vaccines were at 6K. They are over 17,000 now.

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Not so scary LOL. I mean there's only been close to 800,000 adverse events reported to VAERS for Covid vaccines alone.

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Compared to all other vaccines since reporting began, these "reports" drastically eclipse all others combined.

The data is out there. You're too lazy to research it, so I'll keep spoon feeding it to you. Lester Holt isn't going to cover this.
 
And if the business does not comply, you can bet your ***, the police/National Guard/Military will be more than happy to use their might and shut the place down. Oaths be damned. This is where we are. Prove me wrong.
Sad thing is big COs will bounce. The little guy will be crushed.
 
From reports. 76% of those who died recently in VT were vaccinated. You call that good? I call that really bad.

40% of Israeli deaths have been among the vaccinated.

"The state also reported 29 new hospitalizations and 14 new deaths among vaccinated people, compared to 31 new hospitalizations and 13 new deaths among unvaccinated people. " - Oct 8

One in five N.B. COVID-19 deaths were people who were fully vaccinated​

Immunology professor says people over 65 should pretend they're not vaccinated



Maryland just reported that over the past 6-8 weeks, 40% of deaths were those vaccinated.

That's really bad.



There is no definitive death rate. It depends on where you are, when those populations were vaxed, the health of the populations. I've given you the UK previously, and now New Brunswick, Vermont, Israel and MD. All with different rates of deaths among the vaccinated. All WELL ABOVE what were told to expect when the wonder drugs were bestowed upon humanity.

76%, 40%, 20%, 51% deaths among those vaccinated.

YOU will say that's amazing work by the vaccines. No rational person would.
First of all, those aren’t death rates, they’re the percent of people that died who were vaccinated. Big difference. People that understand math think the vaccine works really well. At least three people have tried to explain this to you.

 
Professor Flog

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97% of Wyoming’s (only 39% vaccinated) Covid hospitalizations and deaths since May 1st have been unvaccinated.

The VACCINE works.


Floggy playing State Roulette again! LMAO.

Wyoming also adopted the vaccines at a a slower, delayed rate compared to the rest of the country. The vaccines last 3, 6, 7 months before they start to wane. Just wait.

Meanwhile, Israel, who led the world in vaccination, is already deep into boosters. Way ahead of Wyoming.

40% of their deaths are among vaccinated.

The vaccines have waned. Severely. They partially work. That's the best that can be said of them. Worst vaccines in history to go mainstream without being pulled. Not really a debate.
 
First of all, those aren’t death rates, they’re the percent of people that died who were vaccinated. Big difference.

Uhh, not in 2020 when any person who died WITH Covid - no matter the actual cause of death - was deemed having died OF Covid.


So if you and your butt-licking gang want to use the mortality data, then you get to have the same criterion applied to the vaccine - everyone who died WITH the vaccine should be deemed having died FROM the vaccine. Sauce for the goose and all that.
 
Another “what ICS” is dealing with. I have a ton of folks with covid who previously identified as vaccinated being positive and those that now fit the current definition.

I’ll say this again. A handful of cases they test positive at the hospital, no real symptoms and are immediately admitted!?!?!?
 
And if the business does not comply, you can bet your ***, the police/National Guard/Military will be more than happy to use their might and shut the place down. Oaths be damned. This is where we are. Prove me wrong.

Nuh uh!

- FloggedOverandOver
 
Another “what ICS” is dealing with. I have a ton of folks with covid who previously identified as vaccinated being positive and those that now fit the current definition.

I’ll say this again. A handful of cases they test positive at the hospital, no real symptoms and are immediately admitted!?!?!?
Let me add. The “incentive” (like last time) to get your booster is no more testing. Ahh that ending quickly and as I recall someone posted that that lax in testing bc “that group is fine” led to the surge in HC, bc they were not. Let’s repeat that. Yeah that’s smart.
 
Paging @Steeltime, what be you think of all of this written by Karl Denninger? He onto something?

Dewey, Cheat'em And Howe

Oh, you're a woke-poke employer eh?

You think hiding behind OSHA -- or the threat to issue a mandate by the government -- in some way prevents you from being liable for injuries and/or deaths related to the vaccines?


Uh, how would you like to defend that position in court given all of the following are true:
  • The PREP act has no provision giving you legal immunity and cannot be amended by executive order as it is law, so you would need both houses of Congress to pass such a thing -- and they have not.

  • The producing firms and health care providers are immune from damages under that same PREP Act. Therefore under the general principle of joint and several liability guess who gets all of it: You do.
  • You could have tried to claim that the Federal Government refused liability (and got away with it) for direct employees, or even that "there's no such thing as vaccine injury from these jabs" and claimed that the Federal Government itself said this is so..... except, oops, that just went up in a puff of smoke.
The Federal Employees' Compensation Act (FECA) covers injuries that occur in the performance of duty. The FECA does not generally authorize provision of preventive measures such as vaccines and inoculations, and in general, preventive treatment is a responsibility of the employing agency under the provisions of 5 U.S.C. 7901. However, care can be authorized by OWCP for complications of preventive measures which are provided or sponsored by the agency, such as adverse reaction to prophylactic immunization. See PM 3-0400.7(a).

Further, deleterious effects of medical services furnished by the employing establishment are generally considered to fall within the performance of duty. These services include preventive programs relating to health. See PM 2-0804.19.

However, this executive order now makes COVID-19 vaccination a requirement of most Federal employment. As such, employees impacted by this mandate who receive required COVID-19 vaccinations on or after the date of the executive order may be afforded coverage under the FECA for any adverse reactions to the vaccine itself, and for any injuries sustained while obtaining the vaccination.

Oops.

If you mandate, as a private employer, "vaccination" against Covid-19 any and all adverse events as a result of said jabs are now chargeable to you, as the Federal Government itself has deemed that "mandated" vaccinations are indeed injuries that occurred while performing the job in question, irrespective of where the jab took place, and that said adverse events, up to and including death do in fact occur.

Got that employers and HR Departments? Said "adverse events" are expected.


Oh by the way your insurance firm has likely inserted a "pandemic exemption" into your liability coverage. That's shown up in a whole lot of those policies over the last year or so, and it's odds-on that's the case for you as well.

Incidentally there is plenty of evidence that these jabs will be eventually found to be responsible for a whole host of serious problems, and those do not end within a couple of weeks of the jab itself. Indeed, the evidence is mounting rapidly (see the all-cause "excess death" rates for various age groups, particularly cardiac and circulatory related, among young people now showing up in places like Scotland and England for examples) that there is a causal link between both strokes and heart attacks.

I remind you that the FDA and pharmaceutical industry claimed, not all that long ago, that no such link existed for Vioxx. It was only after about 60,000 Americans had heart attacks and died, and several hundred thousand had non-fatal heart problems caused by it, that it was withdrawn from the market -- five years later.

Moderna and Pfizer may be immune from lawsuit but you are not, and further, the precedent by the Federal Government itself now exists based on their own public statement that if an employee gets screwed by the jab you demanded they take you're on the hook whether that injury is evident five minutes afterward or five years later.

If OAS or ADE shows up as is being indicated, but not yet proved by the data out of both Scotland and Britain then you're really in trouble as every single vaccinated person who gets Covid-19 and dies or is permanently harmed in your organization, and that will be a very sizeable percentage of the whole, is going to result in a huge lawsuit that you will lose.

Good luck *******s; you just got ****ed, your company is likely to be a smoking hole and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
 
Paging @Steeltime, what be you think of all of this written by Karl Denninger? He onto something?

Dewey, Cheat'em And Howe

Oh, you're a woke-poke employer eh?

You think hiding behind OSHA -- or the threat to issue a mandate by the government -- in some way prevents you from being liable for injuries and/or deaths related to the vaccines?


Uh, how would you like to defend that position in court given all of the following are true:
  • The PREP act has no provision giving you legal immunity and cannot be amended by executive order as it is law, so you would need both houses of Congress to pass such a thing -- and they have not.

  • The producing firms and health care providers are immune from damages under that same PREP Act. Therefore under the general principle of joint and several liability guess who gets all of it: You do.
  • You could have tried to claim that the Federal Government refused liability (and got away with it) for direct employees, or even that "there's no such thing as vaccine injury from these jabs" and claimed that the Federal Government itself said this is so..... except, oops, that just went up in a puff of smoke.


Oops.

If you mandate, as a private employer, "vaccination" against Covid-19 any and all adverse events as a result of said jabs are now chargeable to you, as the Federal Government itself has deemed that "mandated" vaccinations are indeed injuries that occurred while performing the job in question, irrespective of where the jab took place, and that said adverse events, up to and including death do in fact occur.

Got that employers and HR Departments? Said "adverse events" are expected.


Oh by the way your insurance firm has likely inserted a "pandemic exemption" into your liability coverage. That's shown up in a whole lot of those policies over the last year or so, and it's odds-on that's the case for you as well.

Incidentally there is plenty of evidence that these jabs will be eventually found to be responsible for a whole host of serious problems, and those do not end within a couple of weeks of the jab itself. Indeed, the evidence is mounting rapidly (see the all-cause "excess death" rates for various age groups, particularly cardiac and circulatory related, among young people now showing up in places like Scotland and England for examples) that there is a causal link between both strokes and heart attacks.

I remind you that the FDA and pharmaceutical industry claimed, not all that long ago, that no such link existed for Vioxx. It was only after about 60,000 Americans had heart attacks and died, and several hundred thousand had non-fatal heart problems caused by it, that it was withdrawn from the market -- five years later.

Moderna and Pfizer may be immune from lawsuit but you are not, and further, the precedent by the Federal Government itself now exists based on their own public statement that if an employee gets screwed by the jab you demanded they take you're on the hook whether that injury is evident five minutes afterward or five years later.

If OAS or ADE shows up as is being indicated, but not yet proved by the data out of both Scotland and Britain then you're really in trouble as every single vaccinated person who gets Covid-19 and dies or is permanently harmed in your organization, and that will be a very sizeable percentage of the whole, is going to result in a huge lawsuit that you will lose.

Good luck *******s; you just got ****ed, your company is likely to be a smoking hole and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
My “friend” company had a mandate and one of his employees after the poke was paralyzed from the waste down. No he isn’t lying or spinning yarn. He told me that WC claim is over a million in reserves.
 
TSF, employers are not liable for defects in products they demand employees use to the same extent that manufacturers are potentially liable. Employers pay employees in nearly every jurisdiction in the United States (Louisiana is not governed by civil law like the other 49 states so not sure about that state) under workers compensation. That is different than civil liability as employment-related injuries are basically no-fault, with very specific and regimented financial responsibility.

The employer and its workers compensation insurer have the right to sue any manufacturer for injuries caused by their products, since the employer was made to pay damages for such injuries, but the liability protection extended to the vaccine manufacturers and the general immunity of governments protect them from such lawsuits.

So if an employee is injured by a vaccine ordered by the employer, the employee is entitled to workers compensation benefits that the employer's insurance company will pay.
 
My “friend” company had a mandate and one of his employees after the poke was paralyzed from the waste down. No he isn’t lying or spinning yarn. He told me that WC claim is over a million in reserves.

Yep. For workers compensation liability, an employee who suffers a catastrophic injury like a spinal cord injury with resultant lifetime medical care needed costs A LOT more than an employee who dies. In California, for example, work-related deaths result in a payment up to $320,000.
 
TSF, employers are not liable for defects in products they demand employees use to the same extent that manufacturers are potentially liable. Employers pay employees in nearly every jurisdiction in the United States (Louisiana is not governed by civil law like the other 49 states so not sure about that state) under workers compensation. That is different than civil liability as employment-related injuries are basically no-fault, with very specific and regimented financial responsibility.

The employer and its workers compensation insurer have the right to sue any manufacturer for injuries caused by their products, since the employer was made to pay damages for such injuries, but the liability protection extended to the vaccine manufacturers and the general immunity of governments protect them from such lawsuits.

So if an employee is injured by a vaccine ordered by the employer, the employee is entitled to workers compensation benefits that the employer's insurance company will pay.

So you think Denninger's position is baseless.
 
Bryson Gray. Check out his page.

 
Yep. For workers compensation liability, an employee who suffers a catastrophic injury like a spinal cord injury with resultant lifetime medical care needed costs A LOT more than an employee who dies. In California, for example, work-related deaths result in a payment up to $320,000.

Jimmy, I'm going to have to ask you a question about something similar to that.
 
So you think Denninger's position is baseless.

In terms of his statement about general liability on a product liability or negligence basis, I do. The statement

If you mandate, as a private employer, "vaccination" against Covid-19 any and all adverse events as a result of said jabs are now chargeable to you, as the Federal Government itself has deemed that "mandated" vaccinations are indeed injuries that occurred while performing the job in question, irrespective of where the jab took place, and that said adverse events, up to and including death do in fact occur.

Got that employers and HR Departments? Said "adverse events" are expected.

Is just not really true, since employees who suffer a work-related injury (which would include injuries from a required medication or medical procedure) cannot "sue" employers and instead are limited to the workers compensation system. The preclusion against civil suits has some relative narrow exceptions for uninsured employers (i.e., no workers compensation insurance) but that would not apply to employers with 100 or more employees - the potential lawsuits and injuries would expose them to bankruptcy, while in comparison workers compensation premiums are generally pretty low.
 
Thanks for the info you gave me. Dongster let me (all of us, really) down.

As stated elsewhere, I was busy entertaining the wife after a long day of work.

I hear an ampilampse chaser handled my light work.

If you need a real consultation, you know the digits.
 
Latest Excella numbers...49 people in hospital with Covid, 8 on vents 80% are unvaxxed, 85% on vents are unvaxxed, 13% are under 50, 11 deaths (3 deaths were under 63) (not sure if this is for October or in last 30days). There have been 200+ positive kids in the county 1-18 yrs old since school started.
 
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