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Covid Vaccine

How long till the script is flipped and they blame this bs pokes on DT and the Republicans?
 
120 cops, or 6 percent of the San Fran police workforce are walking off the job today.

"What's 6%? People aren't gonna die. JFC!!" /Floggy
 

More than 100 scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory could be fired Monday

A legal challenge backed by dozens of scientists and other employees at Los Alamos National Laboratory to block a vaccine mandate was denied by a New Mexico judge Friday, putting the workers at risk of termination if they don’t adhere to the vaccination deadline by the afternoon deadline.

The group is made up of scientists, nuclear engineers, research technicians, designers, project managers and other employees who joined the attempt to block the mandate. Several of the employees are specialists with high security clearance, working in national defense, infrastructure and Covid research.

I wonder what happened? I've heard that place has some of the best and brightest working on some seriously crazy **** the rest of us would likely just scratch our heads at.
 
Yeah, they did a full 180 because there were no sick outs, walk outs, etc. It was just weather.


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I wonder what happened? I've heard that place has some of the best and brightest working on some seriously crazy **** the rest of us would likely just scratch our heads at.

They be smart and know the vaxes are dangerous?
 



Definitely the time to not comply anymore. They can pound sand. They've had damn near 2 years to play tyrant. Gig is up.
And if the business does not comply, you can bet your ***, the police/National Guard/Military will be more than happy to use their might and shut the place down. Oaths be damned. This is where we are. Prove me wrong.
 
Link? And from what day? The death rate of those vaccinated is rising.




As we joked pages ago, you would call using Vitamin C a vaccine. You consider allergy shots vaccines. If 400Million shots were administered and 3 lives were saved, you'd call it a vaccine.

No one has said any vaccine provides 100% immunity. But the FDA has minimum standards. Two of them (J&J and Pfizer) now don't meet it, and Moderna barely does. Compared to "effective" vaccines, these vaccines are bullshit.
The unvaccinated are dying at an 11X higher rate.


Stupe considered allergy shots to be vaccines. I said they were not. Are you trying to argue that once a “shot” meets some minimum FDA standard it is then, and only then, considered to be a “vaccine”?
 
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Read and respond to what was said. Read the studies linked inside, studies I previously posted you had no comment on.

Maybe you'll read it this time: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7. It's from the European Journal of Epidemiology. Peer reviewed studies published there since 1985.

Source-attacking is all you have. You provide sources, we may attack the links, but we read them and dissect the content. Stop being lazy.
Cases, cases, cases. Who cares? Testing varies significantly from state to state and country to country, and many cases go unreported. Deaths are the true measure of the vaccines effectiveness. Remember arguing that back when cases were rising and deaths were not? Of course you don’t.
 
Cases, cases, cases. Who cares? Testing varies significantly from state to state and country to country, and many cases go unreported. Deaths are the true measure of the vaccines effectiveness. Remember arguing that back when cases were rising and deaths were not? Of course you don’t.
Dipshit. Measuring deaths of people already near death is close to useless. The far more useful measure for society and its resource allocation involves calculations about how many younger folks -- the ones more productive to society now and in the future -- are dying or injured. And those numbers, regardless of Covid flu shot status, are still low like they have been throughout this entire 20 month "Emergency".

The "hair on fire" response from fucktards like you, ignorant of the real costs and benefits of multivariate approaches to mitigating health issues in the younger, productive part of the population, is beyond irresponsible. Quislings like you, sycophants for the mainstream media and one political ideology, exert a massive negative cost to the future of society.
 
Florida’s COVID-19 response has been described as reckless, dangerous, and anti-science.

Its Republican governor weathered months of scorn for loosening pandemic restrictions ahead of other state leaders. Its case counts, when on the rise, are often cited by critics as evidence that the entire Republican approach to managing the virus has failed.

But drops in Florida’s case counts invite a fraction of the attention.

New infections per 100,000 residents dropped to 12 over the past week, according to the New York Times coronavirus tracker. Over the past 14 days, cases dropped by 48%.

Other states with far more expansive pandemic restrictions are seeing COVID-19 continue to spread at faster rates than Florida.

In New York, for example, the rate of new cases is more than double that of Florida’s at 25 per 100,000 residents over the past week.

In Washington state, the rate of new infections per 100,000 residents was at 31 during the past week.


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Floggy? Floggy? Anyone??
 
The unvaccinated are dying at an 11X higher rate.


The Smithsonian. Shaking my head.

There is no definitive rate for deaths between the vaxed and unvaxed. None. Varies by country by state by locale; by day of the week and month; depends on which vaccine and its level of ineffectiveness.

Comical to watch you spout about that there is a quantifiable rate, when the recent studies have shown the wide variance of effectiveness between the 3 "permissible" shots we can take.

Stupe considered allergy shots to be vaccines.

Well...he's right and so are you. Ya'll are splitting hairs. Allergy shots are immunotherapy and are often compared, called and/or classified as vaccines, because they operate in a highly similar manner. Calling them immunotherapy and/or vaccines is acceptable.

American Academy of Allergy Asthma & Immunology

Allergy Shots (immunotherapy)​

Allergen immunotherapy, also known as allergy shots, is a form of long-term treatment.....

How Do Allergy Shots Work?
Allergy shots work like a vaccine.
Your body responds to injected amounts of a particular allergen, given in gradually increasing doses, by developing immunity or tolerance to the allergen.


What are allergy shots?
With allergy shots, specific amounts of natural allergen extracts are injected under the skin of the arm which causes the body to produce antibodies that block allergic symptoms over time. Allergy shots help your body build its natural resistance to the effects of tree, grass, and weed pollen, dust mites, mold spores, animal dander, and insect venom. Allergy shots are also known as "allergen immunotherapy.""

Why do allergy shots need to be repeated?
Allergy shots work like vaccines
. The body develops stronger immunity and decreased symptoms as the allergy vaccine dose is increased and repeated over time.

What is the process of allergy shots?
There are two major phases, including build up and maintenance. During the build up phase, the strength of the allergy vaccines is gradually increased by a fixed schedule to reach a target dose referred to as the maintenance dose.

"The effectiveness of immunotherapy is related to the strength of allergy vaccines and the length of treatment."

I said they were not.

You're wrong then, see above.

Are you trying to argue that once a “shot” meets some minimum FDA standard it is then, and only then, considered to be a “vaccine”?

i'm not arguing anything, I'm telling YOU what the minimum FDA standard is for vaccines.

Bottom line is, the Moderna, Pfizer and Jansenn vaxes (without boosters) are more like allergy shots than traditionally effective vaccines.
 
The unvaccinated are dying at an 11X higher rate.


Stupe considered allergy shots to be vaccines. I said they were not. Are you trying to argue that once a “shot” meets some minimum FDA standard it is then, and only then, considered to be a “vaccine”?
you lying sack of ****. i have never conflated the two.
 
The unvaccinated are dying at an 11X higher rate.


Stupe considered allergy shots to be vaccines. I said they were not. Are you trying to argue that once a “shot” meets some minimum FDA standard it is then, and only then, considered to be a “vaccine”?
According to a report released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), unvaccinated individuals are 11 times more likely to die from Covid-19 than those who are fully inoculated...

whats the key word in that?
hint, its bolded

tell me, Professor Flog, where the mRNA vaccine shot inoculates.
 
Cases, cases, cases. Who cares?

Cases begat deaths. Your words.

If people don't get sick....they can't die from it.

Testing varies significantly from state to state and country to country, and many cases go unreported.

Bingo!!!!!!! You know what population is the most UNDER TESTED? The vaccinated. Mad keeps hitting you with this.

Given the vaxed are 13.2x more likely to catch Covid than someone naturally immune.....how many millions of Covid cases among the vaxed are going undetected?

So you're admitting these variances make the REAL numbers of infected people countless times higher than they are currently reported.

Deaths are the true measure of the vaccines effectiveness. Remember arguing that back when cases were rising and deaths were not? Of course you don’t.

Of course I do. I'm rubbing your face in your own piss and **** you left on the floor. Your argument was "cases lead to deaths." You don't remember, I'm sure.

Yes deaths are the ultimate measure in beating this pandemic. You can't judge these vaccines (see my prior post) on deaths because it depends on where, when they are looked at. In VT, 76% of their deaths are vaxed people. HIGHLY effective, yes?
 
Dipshit. Measuring deaths of people already near death is close to useless. The far more useful measure for society and its resource allocation involves calculations about how many younger folks -- the ones more productive to society now and in the future -- are dying or injured. And those numbers, regardless of Covid flu shot status, are still low like they have been throughout this entire 20 month "Emergency".

The "hair on fire" response from fucktards like you, ignorant of the real costs and benefits of multivariate approaches to mitigating health issues in the younger, productive part of the population, is beyond irresponsible. Quislings like you, sycophants for the mainstream media and one political ideology, exert a massive negative cost to the future of society.
Oh STFU. My support for mitigation efforts and the vaccines hasn’t “exerted a massive negative cost to the future of society”. Could you be any more dramatic? The mainstream media has nothing to do with it. I’m saying listen to the DOCTORS, not social media and the Tucker “no reasonable person would take me seriously” Carlson’s of the world.

Are the obese included in your counting of younger folks? Because a lot of people around here were arguing their Covid deaths didn’t count.
 
Oh STFU. My support for mitigation efforts and the vaccines hasn’t “exerted a massive negative cost to the future of society”. Could you be any more dramatic? The mainstream media has nothing to do with it. I’m saying listen to the DOCTORS, not social media and the Tucker “no reasonable person would take me seriously” Carlson’s of the world.

Are the obese included in your counting of younger folks? Because a lot of people around here were arguing their Covid deaths didn’t count.

Can someone please translate what Floggy has written for us here and what his point might be? Anyone?

I heard "I'm in support of vaccines, pay attention to who you get advice from, diapers sometimes leak why yesterday my hunger Joe Biden."

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Cases begat deaths. Your words.

If people don't get sick....they can't die from it.



Bingo!!!!!!! You know what population is the most UNDER TESTED? The vaccinated. Mad keeps hitting you with this.

Given the vaxed are 13.2x more likely to catch Covid than someone naturally immune.....how many millions of Covid cases among the vaxed are going undetected?

So you're admitting these variances make the REAL numbers of infected people countless times higher than they are currently reported.



Of course I do. I'm rubbing your face in your own piss and **** you left on the floor. Your argument was "cases lead to deaths." You don't remember, I'm sure.

Yes deaths are the ultimate measure in beating this pandemic. You can't judge these vaccines (see my prior post) on deaths because it depends on where, when they are looked at. In VT, 76% of their deaths are vaxed people. HIGHLY effective, yes?
Cases lead to deaths is true mostly for the unvaccinated, not so much for the vaccinated. VT’s 76% was part of 30 deaths over the course of a month, How many of WV’s 30 deaths/DAY were vaccinated? Why did VT’s Delta daily death rate peak at .32/100k when WV’s peaked at 1.81?

You keep pointing to data that proves the vaccines effectiveness.
 
Cases lead to deaths is true mostly for the unvaccinated, not so much for the vaccinated.

It's true for the vaxed and the unvaxed. It's true for the flu. For the cold. For cancer, heart disease, typhoid fever, diptheria, measles, smallpox, diabetes, and every other malady known to man. Cases lead to deaths.

VT’s 76% was part of 30 deaths over the course of a month

You keep trying to mitigate it. You cannot. Over 3/4 of their deaths were vaccinated people. It doesn't matter if it was 300 or 30,000 or 30. If the vaccines worked, 1-5 out of a hundred would be dying. The rates of death for the vaccinated are really bad.

These vaccines are the worst vaccines given to mankind that are still in use. The most ineffective and the most dangerous.
 
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It's true for the vaxed and the unvaxed. It's true for the flu. For the cold. For cancer, heart disease, typhoid fever, diptheria, measles, smallpox, diabetes, and every other malady known to man. Cases lead to deaths.



You keep trying to mitigate it. You cannot. Over 3/4 of their deaths were vaccinated people. It doesn't matter if it was 300 or 30,000 or 30. If the vaccines worked, 1-5 out of a hundred would be dying. The rates of death for the vaccinated are really bad.

These vaccines are the worst vaccines given to mankind that are still in use. The most ineffective and the most dangerous.
The rates of death for the vaccinated is really bad? How do you figure? Someone, I think his name is Tim, just posted that there is no definitive death rate between the vaxed and unvaxed. What is this rate of which you speak? This should be good!

Like the MEDICAL DOCTORS in the article I posted yesterday said, facts don’t fix the misinformed.
 
The rates of death for the vaccinated is really bad? How do you figure?

From reports. 76% of those who died recently in VT were vaccinated. You call that good? I call that really bad.

40% of Israeli deaths have been among the vaccinated.

"The state also reported 29 new hospitalizations and 14 new deaths among vaccinated people, compared to 31 new hospitalizations and 13 new deaths among unvaccinated people. " - Oct 8

One in five N.B. COVID-19 deaths were people who were fully vaccinated​

Immunology professor says people over 65 should pretend they're not vaccinated

A COVID-19 antibodies researcher expects to see more deaths among fully vaccinated people as vaccine effectiveness begins to wane.

"The vulnerable are becoming vulnerable again," said Rodney Russell, a professor of immunology and infectious diseases at Memorial University of Newfoundland.

He said research is showing that the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccinations begins to fade after six or seven months. And since older and vulnerable groups were vaccinated first, they're seeing the first signs of waning immunity.

Of New Brunswick's first 84 deaths, 17 of them — or 20 per cent — were fully vaccinated.

Maryland just reported that over the past 6-8 weeks, 40% of deaths were those vaccinated.

That's really bad.

Someone, I think his name is Tim, just posted that there is no definitive death rate between the vaxed and unvaxed. What is this rate of which you speak? This should be good!

There is no definitive death rate. It depends on where you are, when those populations were vaxed, the health of the populations. I've given you the UK previously, and now New Brunswick, Vermont, Israel and MD. All with different rates of deaths among the vaccinated. All WELL ABOVE what were told to expect when the wonder drugs were bestowed upon humanity.

76%, 40%, 20%, 51% deaths among those vaccinated.

YOU will say that's amazing work by the vaccines. No rational person would.
 
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