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Covid Vaccine

We are headed to a dark & sad place. In fact, in some ways we're already there.

 
Sarge said:
This is ridiculous. Actually it's criminal. Jeez.

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WH dodges question on why vaccinated Americans must wear masks while infected migrants released into TX towns

White House principal deputy press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre declined to directly answer a question from Fox News’s Peter Doocy as to how the Biden administration justifies asking vaccinated Americans to wear masks while the Border Patrol releases coronavirus infected patients into rural...
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Tibs said:
We are headed to a dark & sad place. In fact, in some ways we're already there.

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I can show you pictures of people in the hospital all day everyday.
 
This same wave hit the UK a month ago. In 2-3 weeks it was gone. POOF.

It has probably been through half of our population by now.

BUT LET'S LOCK DOWN FOR TWO WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE!!!!
 
So, my wife's work has brought back mandatory masks for all employees even when they are at their desks within their cubicles regardless of vaccination status. It makes even less sense now than it it did the first time around.
 
Steeler Pride said:
So, my wife's work has brought back mandatory masks for all employees even when they are at their desks within their cubicles regardless of vaccination status. It makes even less sense now than it it did the first time around.
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Our government makes less sense by the day.
 
hamster said:
This same wave hit the UK a month ago. In 2-3 weeks it was gone. POOF.

It has probably been through half of our population by now.

BUT LET'S LOCK DOWN FOR TWO WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE!!!!
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Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me....
 
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Tim Steelersfan said:
Yep, and at the time, cases weren't rising.

You simply don't get context or timing. In that moment, you were preaching fear, death, doom, and destruction. As always, I take present data and say "no, this is where we are."

Like today. We are still at about 1/3 the daily deaths average we were at 60 days ago.

All the cases in the world is meaningless if people aren't dying. When deaths go up to four or five hundred a day, then we need to show concern. Just a few years ago, we were losing over 400 a day to the flu.
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Again, was I being clairvoyant? Cases were rising. How did I see that and you didn’t? You can’t spot a trend.

I wasn’t preaching anything, I was stating a fact.

Cases aren’t meaningless. They lead to hospitalizations (+76%) and deaths (+15%).
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
Well ****. Looks like I’m about to be forced to get the poke. Company is mandating it.
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That sucks man. Can't tell you how many people are truly freaking out about losing their jobs, reputations & even relationships over this ****. This is one of those rare times where I feel fortunate to be working for a small business (who are freedom-loving Americans). It's not even FDA approved, the CDC are coming out saying it doesn't actually protect you from getting the virus (but it might lessen symptoms) and a bunch of other horseshit.

You know what else might help lessen symptoms? Eat healthier, take the right vitamins and maybe do some other preventative things. And again, where did the flu go?
 
Steelworth said:
That sucks man. Can't tell you how many people are truly freaking out about losing their jobs, reputations & even relationships over this ****. This is one of those rare times where I feel fortunate to be working for a small business (who are freedom-loving Americans). It's not even FDA approved, the CDC are coming out saying it doesn't actually protect you from getting the virus (but it might lessen symptoms) and a bunch of other horseshit.

You know what else might help lessen symptoms? Eat healthier, take the right vitamins and maybe do some other preventative things. And again, where did the flu go?
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It’s all good. I’m going to leave. Apparently they also are mandating men wear rubbers when *******. That’s it I’m out
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You unintelligent fool. You're a trolling parrot, nothing more. Unable to critically think or interpret and come to sound reason.

The following are 7 day averages. Here is where we were:

Date7-day case average7 day death averageIFR
2/1/01​
145,6053,1590.0217
2/15/01​
87,8452,6870.0306
3/1/01​
67,4642,0370.0302

Here is where we are:

7/1/01​
13,5272690.0199
7/15/01​
29,3542870.0098
7/29/01​
70,0733170.0045

Now I know I need to explain this to you again. IFR is the infection fatality rate, a number always higher than true mortality because it does NOT include asymptomatic/assumed cases. But it's fine for making a comparison.

Fewer people are dying because of Rona.

How much so?

Feb 1 to March 1 was an IFR of 0.2602 in total.
The month of July in total was an IFR of 0.0077

A 70.6% drop in the Infection Fatality Rate.

Dr. Tim, out.

PS...will this change? Who knows. But right now and the trends over recent months show a declining IFR. Vax + natural immunity + lesser variant + better treatments = less fatal.
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This would make sense if people died the same day they tested positive and not weeks later. Once again, your numerator isn’t in your denominator.
 
Troglodyte said:
Again, was I being clairvoyant? Cases were rising. How did I see that and you didn’t? You can’t spot a trend.

I wasn’t preaching anything, I was stating a fact.

Cases aren’t meaningless. They lead to hospitalizations (+76%) and deaths (+15%).
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Predicting COVID cases will rise doesn't make you clairvoyant fuckstick. Thats equivalent to predicting we will see more flu cases in the future, the sun will rise tomorrow, and you will continue being a non-stop dumbass.

I have said to you...to you....numerous times the virus is endemic, a word you still don't understand. That means it will always be here, it will always have peaks and valleys.

At the time you said cases were rising, they were not. They did after the fact. Woohoo! LMAO, if you want to pat yourself on the back for saying "Gosh Gomer at some point, cases gonna rise again" by all means.

The cases are indeed meaningless if they don't lead to an uncontrollable problem. You can't spot the trends. Deaths have gone down as a percentage of cases. The IFR has gone way down.

As of right now...I'm not in the prediction business...we are seeing more cases. The deaths are not rising proportionally. A 15% increase over 100 or 200 isn't a cause for alarm. For you lockdown addicts, it is a sign of hope. Chilling.
 
Troglodyte said:
Again, was I being clairvoyant? Cases were rising. How did I see that and you didn’t? You can’t spot a trend.

I wasn’t preaching anything, I was stating a fact.

Cases aren’t meaningless. They lead to hospitalizations (+76%) and deaths (+15%).
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stop peddling your goddamned lies

www.cnbc.com

CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated

The CDC data published Friday was based on 469 cases of Covid associated with multiple summer events and large public gatherings in July in Massachusetts.
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Overall, 274 vaccinated patients with a breakthrough infection were symptomatic, according to the CDC. The most common side effects were cough, headache, sore throat, muscle pain and fever. Among five Covid patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated, according to the agency. No deaths were reported.
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Troglodyte said:
This would make sense if people died the same day they tested positive and not weeks later. Once again, your numerator isn’t in your denominator.
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There...is...4...weeks...of...data...there. Now you are going to tell us that the people who caught COVID the first week of July may still be dying?

You really can't spot trends or read data.

Notice the IFR columns? Cases are rising...IFRs are dropping. Hmmm...wonder what that do be mean.

In the month of July, the IFR has dropped 77.4%
In the month of July, the cases have risen 418%

Cases are rising, death rates are currently dropping.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Predicting COVID cases will rise doesn't make you clairvoyant fuckstick. Thats equivalent to predicting we will see more flu cases in the future, the sun will rise tomorrow, and you will continue being a non-stop dumbass.

I have said to you...to you....numerous times the virus is endemic, a word you still don't understand. That means it will always be here, it will always have peaks and valleys.

At the time you said cases were rising, they were not. They did after the fact. Woohoo! LMAO, if you want to pat yourself on the back for saying "Gosh Gomer at some point, cases gonna rise again" by all means.

The cases are indeed meaningless if they don't lead to an uncontrollable problem. You can't spot the trends. Deaths have gone down as a percentage of cases. The IFR has gone way down.

As of right now...I'm not in the prediction business...we are seeing more cases. The deaths are not rising proportionally. A 15% increase over 100 or 200 isn't a cause for alarm. For you lockdown addicts, it is a sign of hope. Chilling.
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“+” means cases are rising. That’s all you needed to see, but the graph didn’t slap you in tha face so now you’re trying to explain you’re unaware self weeks later.

“15% over 100 or 200” Isn’t it over 300 now? We’re losing as many people that died on 9/11 every ten days, but it’s insignificant?

 
Troglodyte said:
We’re losing as many people that died on 9/11 every ten days, but it’s insignificant?
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Again, what happened to the flu? That has killed a significant no. of people for decades and decades, but there was no panic, lockdowns or masks over that one.

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