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Covid Vaccine

DBS1970 said:
Yeah no.

if this was a vaccine, thoroughly tested and proven I’d take it. It doesn’t use a dead or weakened form of the virus to confer immunity because it isn’t a vaccine. It uses mRNA that actually changes how your immune system works because although it isn’t a vaccine it is an experimental gene therapy.
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www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk

Why mRNA vaccines aren't gene therapies - Genomics Education Programme

We bust another Covid-19 myth – this time about how mRNA vaccines work – in our latest blog post
www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk
 
Troglodyte said:
But your logic doesn’t hold up, Tim. The death rate of the vaccinated is much more infinitely small for every demographic. Why do you hold the risk of the vaccine to an astronomically higher standard than you do the risk of Covid?
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Stay on the topic Flogged, and it holds up. Your general problem is, you can't stay on a topic, you meander and waffle in never-ending attempts to try to ensnare others. All you ever do is expose yourself, however.
 
Troglodyte said:
www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk

Why mRNA vaccines aren't gene therapies - Genomics Education Programme

We bust another Covid-19 myth – this time about how mRNA vaccines work – in our latest blog post
www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk
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Read that actual scientific paper i posted pages back for an explanation of all the things about mrna this cheery pro mrna doesn’t get into… it can (and has in mice ) cause genetic issues that are passed down … that isn’t a conspiracy or misinformation… thats been seen in previous experiments with the mrna therapy they have been trying to crack for a while now… also note the section where they talk about how the data showed three separate fragments needed to be injected to reach the type of immunity that you see in natural virus based vaccines or post illness immunity … yet for some reason they only used one and still have not explained why…
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Why do the overwhelming # of physicians and nurses no longer trust the CDC and their guidance?
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Like the way you made a general statement with nothing to back it up. Trog won't know how to respond, because he follows the exact same logic, which isn't really logic.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Like the way you made a general statement with nothing to back it up. Trog won't know how to respond, because he follows the exact same logic, which isn't really logic.
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(actually I did back it up pages ago, posting an article which did a survey which showed only like 33% of physicians trust the CDC and its guidanance)

But yeah, he isn't gonna know how to respond.
 
oneforthebus said:
No one is going to round you up an exterminate you for not getting vaccinated.
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Not yet but I can see having proof of vaccination, or not, akin to wearing a gold Star of David on your clothing.
 
Steelworth said:
Again, a PhD level scientist typically heads these experiments
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With that being the case, the views of the 76% of PhDs who are not afraid to get jabbed carry no weight with you?

A big problem I see with these discussions is that everyone is just extrapolating what they want from every piece of data in order to reinforce their preconceived views on COVID and the vaccines.

Personally, I do not pretend to have enough of an understanding of medicine or biology to have a valid opinion on the vaccines.

I acknowledge that I need to yield to medical professionals on the issue, for better or worse.

My PCP, who I trust, told me in March they I'd be crazy to not get vaccinated, so I did.
 
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Punxsutawney said:
With that being the case, the views of the 76% of PhDs who are not afraid to get jabbed carry no weight with you?

A big problem I see with these discussions is that everyone is just extrapolating what they want from every piece of data in order to reinforce their preconceived views on COVID and the vaccines.

Personally, I do not pretend to have enough of an understanding of medicine or biology to have a valid opinion on the vaccines.

I acknowledge that I need to yield to medical professionals on the issue, for better or worse.

My PCP, who I trust, told me in March they I'd be crazy to not get vaccinated, so I did.
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Here's a thought, why not let the individual decide, crazy, I know.
 
Punxsutawney said:
With that being the case, the views of the 76% of PhDs who are not afraid to get jabbed carry no weight with you?

A big problem I see with these discussions is that everyone is just extrapolating what they want from every piece of data in order to reinforce their preconceived views on COVID and the vaccines.

Personally, I do not pretend to have enough of an understanding of medicine or biology to have a valid opinion on the vaccines.

I acknowledge that I need to yield to medical professionals on the issue, for better or worse.

My PCP, who I trust, told me in March they I'd be crazy to not vaccinated, so I did.
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Sure, you do what you think is best. And I'll use my individual right to decide what foreign substance goes into my body as well.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Here's a thought, why not let the individual decide, crazy, I know.
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I believe people should have a choice, but I'm not sure in this instance people are making their choices based on valid information or for the right reasons.

All of this has been politicized to a gross extent, and getting info from social media probably isn't a good idea as it applies to anything, not just issues of public health.

Most Americans who are going to get vaccinated voluntarily have already done it. Those who refuse, however, are going to have to deal with the potential consequences of that choice.

You cannot have it both ways.
 
Tibs said:
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One looney (like you) and you think that's the vast majority here, like it's just so black and white. You don't even live here.

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Since you probably know about as much about American music as anything else American:

 
Ron Burgundy said:
Not yet but I can see having proof of vaccination, or not, akin to wearing a gold Star of David on your clothing.
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Absolutely, it's already happening.
 
Punxsutawney said:
I believe people should have a choice, but I'm not sure in this instance people are making their choices based on valid information or for the right reasons.

All of this has been politicized to a gross extent, and getting info from social media probably isn't a good idea as it applies to anything, not just issues of public health.

Most Americans who are going to get vaccinated voluntarily have already done it. Those who refuse, however, are going to have to deal with the potential consequences of that choice.

You cannot have it both ways.
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What consequences?

It's a virus with a .03% chance of killing you unless you are a giant fat ****, with aids and a heavy smoker or you are over 80.
 
DBS1970 said:
because you are an Irish Lutheran. The other micks don't want you either.
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25% Italian and only 12.5% Irish. And Lutheran is just Catholic Lite.
 
Maybe this would help get the message across.

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