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Colin Cowherd describing the new 'Steelers Culture'

He definately has a point, one of the most overflowed talent in the league yet can't focus / discipline / under coached / ect., ONLY thing consistant is their inconsistency. Well onto week 2 and we will play near perfect football against a top team.





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He nails it. And he's one who thinks Tomlin needs to go.
 
I think his narrative is a stretch, but he is entertaining.

I remember him losing his mind when the Steelers beat his Seahawks in 05. Classic meltdown and he couldn't accept it.
 
Yeah, I recall his whining ad nausem. He’s a west coast bias journalist college wise and pushes buttons for discussion on his program. Been doing it since before he was ESPN and through his period on FS1.

Entertainer but click bait talk show.

Clayton started in Pitt, moved to Seattle and still has a better pulse on the league....and is not a homer when it comes to sports journalism


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I really can't disagree with him considering those bums up foxboro do it with much much less talent. It pisses me off as a fan knowing damn well they could have a few more super bowl wins right now. Too much dicking around. It starts at the top. One week get your *** handed to you by some guy playing QB that you've never heard of. Then the next week they destroy some really good football team. Same song new year. If they can't go all in all the time and battle plan accordingly then failure is guaranteed. Stop talking and do it.
 
I'm growing more convinced Roethlisberger is as much of a problem as Tomlin on the "culture" of the team and the up/down problems and inconsistencies and just plain "dumb" football.

But that said, Roethlisberger was never a replaceable part. And Tomlin has never improved Roethlisberger over his career.

I mean, when the forecast on the road is 1" of rain; when the team you are facing was LAST is points scored last season, the #1 message that should be pounded into everyone's head ALL WEEK leading up to this game is: NO TURNOVERS. Don't beat yourself. Don't give up free points.

So either Tomlin didn't pound that message home or our players don't care/listen to said coach.

Either of those issues is a problem with the coach, right?

I just don't know how you go into a game like this, knowing the conditions and the opponent and commit 6 turnovers and 120 yards in penalties. It's literally the #1 thing on the "most important issues for this week's game" notes. Is it not?
 
I like him. He does make good analogies and he is usually right. The shade he throws on Tomlin is usually dead on.

He does have some inconsistencies from time to time, but overall, he is pretty spot on. His main take about "button down, no nonsense" coaches win more often than "player coaches" is pretty accurate to me.

There is more than one way to skin a cat, so to say, but give me a Noll, Hoody, Tuna, Jimmy Johnson over a "I am your buddy" coach for more wins and rings.

If you like contemplating on the subject, do yourself a favor and watch the "A Football Life" episode featuring Bill Parcells. It's fascinating if you love football in general. In a nutshell, it reveals how Bill was more of a "buddy coach" to start, but had horrible results, so he flipped the switch in what he knew would be his last year (if he didn't win more) to being a ball buster and the rest is history. It is gripping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3EJTzJynJM
 
Big Ben is part of the problem because he’s not a leader. This team has no leaders. That’s the problem and it is made worse by the fact the steelers had been drafting dumb players for a long stretch.

When Mike Mitchell is a team leader and he’s waiting outside the opponent’s locker room to trash talk then blow a bunch of coverage in the game, then pose after a tackle 10 yards downfield like he just won the game on a 4th down sack, that’s a problem.

Did anybody say anything to Artie after he stupidly ripped off his helmet to yell at Jarvis Landry who had just successfully trolled him into a 15 yard penalty?

Say what you want about Ray Lewis, but he was a leader who kept his defense in line and would have been all over a guy if he did something like that.

It seems the steelers best players are quiet guys. Ben is non-confrontational and prefers to make passive aggressive comments to the media rather than call somebody out to their face. Guys like Heyward, Tuitt, and Decastro are quiet.

Tomlin and he coaches need to step it up in this area. It’s true, they shouldn’t have to. Players should be able to lead and motivate themselves, but if they won’t then the coaches have to do it themselves.
 
Colin is right once again. I don;t like his man love for lebron but on most takes he is level headed and usually spot on. hard to argue with his describing this bi-polar Steeler team.
 
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Yeah, nails it on the head. If Cowher would have kept coaching he’d have won us multiple rings with Ben.


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I'm not convinced Cowher wanted to coach anymore or wanted to deal with the ego of Roethlisberger moving forward after 2006.

I don't really have a good answer to any of this. Roethlisberger is kind of that meathead "thinks he's smarter than he is" syndrome. He always seems to want to do it his way. And he doesn't learn situational football very well. I mean, he treated this game the same way he treats playing New England on a clear, crisp autumn day. But they aren't the same. You know you have to put up 30+ points to beat New England and Brady. But in this game, with these conditions, just not turning the ball over is probably good enough.

I don't know if he got that from his Arians days (I find Arians incredible arrogant and annoying). I don't know if he just has had so much success and smoke blown up his *** for "freewheeling it" that he doesn't take to coaching well. I don't know if Tomlin hasn't or never will see eye-to-eye with him and instead leaves it all up to the O.C. and then on game day when Tomlin gets involved it just ***** things up.

Roethlisberger's home/road Jekyl and Hyde act is really bothering me. Some of Roethlisbergers "bad" games now are REALLY bad. A lot worse than you'd expect from a guy so experienced. He should be better at smoothing out the consistency of his play week to week. Instead, he was more consistent when he was a rookie and threw the ball 20 times/game.

Who the hell knows. It's not like we've even come close to lighting up Cleveland lately. We almost lost week 1 last year to them.

We just make so many of these games hard on us that I think it emotionally and physically drains us by the end of the season. Every year over the past 5 it's been this way. Too many missed opportunities that could have allowed you to rest (both physically and mentally) and to prepare better come playoff time. Too many games that sow doubt about belief in the coaching and players so that when adversity hits we're just not a confident, smart club.

Hell, I've been complaining about the "smarts" of this team in situational football since 2010. I have old blog posts that talked about it. Nothing has changed (which is why I stopped writing). It's just the same broken record year after year after year. Until Roethlisberger AND Tomlin are gone, it's going to be the same I think.
 
deljzc said:
I'm not convinced Cowher wanted to coach anymore or wanted to deal with the ego of Roethlisberger moving forward after 2006.

I don't really have a good answer to any of this. Roethlisberger is kind of that meathead "thinks he's smarter than he is" syndrome. He always seems to want to do it his way. And he doesn't learn situational football very well. I mean, he treated this game the same way he treats playing New England on a clear, crisp autumn day. But they aren't the same. You know you have to put up 30+ points to beat New England and Brady. But in this game, with these conditions, just not turning the ball over is probably good enough.

I don't know if he got that from his Arians days (I find Arians incredible arrogant and annoying). I don't know if he just has had so much success and smoke blown up his *** for "freewheeling it" that he doesn't take to coaching well. I don't know if Tomlin hasn't or never will see eye-to-eye with him and instead leaves it all up to the O.C. and then on game day when Tomlin gets involved it just ***** things up.

Roethlisberger's home/road Jekyl and Hyde act is really bothering me. Some of Roethlisbergers "bad" games now are REALLY bad. A lot worse than you'd expect from a guy so experienced. He should be better at smoothing out the consistency of his play week to week. Instead, he was more consistent when he was a rookie and threw the ball 20 times/game.

Who the hell knows. It's not like we've even come close to lighting up Cleveland lately. We almost lost week 1 last year to them.

We just make so many of these games hard on us that I think it emotionally and physically drains us by the end of the season. Every year over the past 5 it's been this way. Too many missed opportunities that could have allowed you to rest (both physically and mentally) and to prepare better come playoff time. Too many games that sow doubt about belief in the coaching and players so that when adversity hits we're just not a confident, smart club.

Hell, I've been complaining about the "smarts" of this team in situational football since 2010. I have old blog posts that talked about it. Nothing has changed (which is why I stopped writing). It's just the same broken record year after year after year. Until Roethlisberger AND Tomlin are gone, it's going to be the same I think.
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This post pretty much sums up exactly how I've felt about this squad for years. They make *everything* harder than it should be because they just want to "out-talent" everyone rather than just being smart and strategic. Every successful play looks so ******* labored - we're so bad at just taking what is given and nabbing easy first downs and points. We make *everything* hard
 
Cope said:
I think his narrative is a stretch, but he is entertaining.

I remember him losing his mind when the Steelers beat his Seahawks in 05. Classic meltdown and he couldn't accept it.
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That's part of why I think he sucks. He promoted the walrus's line ofr having to play the refs too. **** the Walrus and Cowherd as well but save the "RED HOT POKER" for the real stuff.




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Drink IRON City said:
That's part of why I think he sucks. He promoted the walrus's line ofr having to play the refs too. **** the Walrus and Cowherd as well but save the "RED HOT POKER" for the real stuff.




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Perhaps they shouldn't have kicked the ball into the EZ 3 times in the first half from midfield...
 
deljzc said:
I'm growing more convinced Roethlisberger is as much of a problem as Tomlin on the "culture" of the team and the up/down problems and inconsistencies and just plain "dumb" football.

But that said, Roethlisberger was never a replaceable part. And Tomlin has never improved Roethlisberger over his career.

I mean, when the forecast on the road is 1" of rain; when the team you are facing was LAST is points scored last season, the #1 message that should be pounded into everyone's head ALL WEEK leading up to this game is: NO TURNOVERS. Don't beat yourself. Don't give up free points.

So either Tomlin didn't pound that message home or our players don't care/listen to said coach.

Either of those issues is a problem with the coach, right?

I just don't know how you go into a game like this, knowing the conditions and the opponent and commit 6 turnovers and 120 yards in penalties. It's literally the #1 thing on the "most important issues for this week's game" notes. Is it not?
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I agree Ben’s ego and lackadaisical approach to football has been a huge downside to his career. If he had Brady’s motivation and work ethic he’d be a 3, 4, 5 whatever super bowl winner. The problem is Ben has a **** ton of talent and never had to work for it. Football comes naturally but the dirty work that no one likes or the gritty details he’s just not that into. Now Brady and Brees have about an ounce of talent between them but what they have and what Jerry Rice had was an insatiable work ethic and drive. Ben doesn’t play in preseason or put those extra reps in after practice. It’s just not him.

That being said it wasn’t in Terry Bradshaw either BUT Chuck Noll wasn’t about to let his QB run the show either. He knocked him down a few pegs and got the best out of him. Brady has Belichick and Brees has Payton. We have a players coach whom I am sure is fun to play for but when it comes to getting the best out of his talent that’s just not his thing.

Maybe you are right Cowher seemed to have checked out that last year and I’m sure he’s been offered god knows how many coaching jobs. But his fire burnt hot and fast and I could see him not having the passion he once did.

I guess the short of it is a better coach would get us prepared for the ****** teams as well as the power teams. The common theme of playing down to our opponent has be trite for quite some time now.


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