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Can we cut Davis

I'm just reporting the news snowflake. Guys get beaten the entire game then runs his mouth. What do the F they call that in Marietta, OH?

Still pissed about losing the game. The same known flaws prevent us from getting where we need to go but keep filing it under everything's okay.

Nobody can cover Gronk 1v1. This is just more look at me bullshit from you ,, who completely disregards davis' ability to fit your agenda.

Idk what you would call getting beat against gronk , in Marietta Ohio. But I know in Ft. Lauderdale they dub thee ********.
 
You're wrong Coach.

Davis isn't going anywhere. He's more athletic than most SS in the league. He works hard, but he was outmatched.

You are right that we need to chip with a LB or DL if he is inline, then pop him from the other side.

Gronk also CAN be covered 1 on 1. I saw Barry do it for KC in week 2. It is possible, you have to be physical and don't back down. Barry did a much better job slowing Gronk off the line.

A nice zone blitz scheme would be bring the SS inside to stop the run, line a LB on Gronk, so Brady sees the mismatch. Blitz the LB and swap the Safety from the blindside to roll coverage to him. INT!
 
Anyone else notice how the pats OL pushes the defenders downfield so Brady can always step up in a clean pocket. I would love to see a delayed blitz up the middle.
 
You're wrong Coach.

Davis isn't going anywhere. He's more athletic than most SS in the league. He works hard, but he was outmatched.

You are right that we need to chip with a LB or DL if he is inline, then pop him from the other side.

Gronk also CAN be covered 1 on 1. I saw Barry do it for KC in week 2. It is possible, you have to be physical and don't back down. Barry did a much better job slowing Gronk off the line.

A nice zone blitz scheme would be bring the SS inside to stop the run, line a LB on Gronk, so Brady sees the mismatch. Blitz the LB and swap the Safety from the blindside to roll coverage to him. INT!

let's not act like this past weekend was the first time sean davis has sucked. he's a poor tackler, has poor instincts, has poor recovery on his mistakes, he's just not that good. i'll hold out hope that he can overcome his deficiencies, but if we continue to see the same bullshit from him by the middle of next year, it's a wrap, we overdrafted on a pud.
 
let's not act like this past weekend was the first time sean davis has sucked. he's a poor tackler, has poor instincts, has poor recovery on his mistakes, he's just not that good. i'll hold out hope that he can overcome his deficiencies, but if we continue to see the same bullshit from him by the middle of next year, it's a wrap, we overdrafted on a pud.

I'll agree that he misses plays. But dammit, at least he makes some too, unlike Mitchell the freakin no show...

Oh, and Weddle made the pro bowl...
 
I'll agree that he misses plays. But dammit, at least he makes some too, unlike Mitchell the freakin no show...

Oh, and Weddle made the pro bowl...

i don't give a **** about weddle, he has nothing to do with the sucktitude of sean davis. so davis makes 1 play for every 7 or 8 he ***** up, whoopty ******* doo

this team needs to draft at least one safety in 2018.
 
You're wrong Coach.

Davis isn't going anywhere. He's more athletic than most SS in the league. He works hard, but he was outmatched.

You are right that we need to chip with a LB or DL if he is inline, then pop him from the other side.

how can you put a LB on him when he's lining up as a WR outside?

Gronk also CAN be covered 1 on 1. I saw Barry do it for KC in week 2. It is possible, you have to be physical and don't back down. Barry did a much better job slowing Gronk off the line.

I remember Berry paying a hefty price for all the effort that took to snuff the gronk. IR'd
 
Man. If we cut every player you guys don't like from week to week I don't think we could field a team this coming week.
 
honestly, i need to know what the **** coach carnell lake is doing to earn his check as a coach on this staff; why are we having so many lapses with multiple players in our secondary? ?? starting to think ol' carnell is one of those "helluva ball player, horrible coach" types.
 
Steelers cant just let him run free off the line. Put Dupree on him whatever side he is on and keep him on the line inside 5 yrds. then drop into zone. He isn't doing anything else.

I agree with cope about Mitchell being a problem. But then I don't know.. maybe the Defense we are running is the problem. Brady had no problem moving the ball with 2 min left.

We should have went for it on 4th and one in our own end. EVERYONE knew wtf was going to happen when we punted.
 
Steelers cant just let him run free off the line. Put Dupree on him whatever side he is on and keep him on the line inside 5 yrds. then drop into zone. He isn't doing anything else.

I agree with cope about Mitchell being a problem. But then I don't know.. maybe the Defense we are running is the problem. Brady had no problem moving the ball with 2 min left.

We should have went for it on 4th and one in our own end. EVERYONE knew wtf was going to happen when we punted.
My opinion is they should have gone zero coverage on the final defensive series. Gave up the TD quickly or made something happen.
 
You guys are pretty laughable. They gave him the toughest matchup on the field. One on one no help for most of it. Do you really think they are cutting Davis. Grow a brain.

laugh it up, laughy. what's the excuse for the dozens of other ****-ups in davis' career before sunday?
 
Steelers cant just let him run free off the line. Put Dupree on him whatever side he is on and keep him on the line inside 5 yrds. then drop into zone. He isn't doing anything else.

I agree with cope about Mitchell being a problem. But then I don't know.. maybe the Defense we are running is the problem. Brady had no problem moving the ball with 2 min left.

We should have went for it on 4th and one in our own end. EVERYONE knew wtf was going to happen when we punted.

I feel that there was/is no reason that Watt doesn't stick with him. At least for 10-15 yards before passing him off to one of the safeties. Watt is a tremendous player, and I'm thrilled that he's a Steeler. However, he hasn't gotten all that close to the qb the last few weeks. He shows a great deal when engaged with a lineman, but overall, he's been just a few steps late. He showed us all that he can stick in Jordy Nelson's back-*******-pocket, and defend him well. I would love to see him and the frat boy go at it over the course of a game.
 
laugh it up, laughy. what's the excuse for the dozens of other ****-ups in davis' career before sunday?

The bolded struck me as the funniest **** I've seen in a long *** time. On the train with tears in my eyes..needed that
 
i don't give a **** about weddle, he has nothing to do with the sucktitude of sean davis. so davis makes 1 play for every 7 or 8 he ***** up, whoopty ******* doo

this team needs to draft at least one safety in 2018.

I was wishing to have Weddle over Mitchell this year...
 
i don't give a **** about weddle, he has nothing to do with the sucktitude of sean davis. so davis makes 1 play for every 7 or 8 he ***** up, whoopty ******* doo

this team needs to draft at least one safety in 2018.

I wanted the Steelers to sign Weddle. Both Davis and Mitchell need to be replaced. The way the NFL is theses days you need at least one solid coverage safety. We have ZERO.
 
I wanted the Steelers to sign Weddle. Both Davis and Mitchell need to be replaced. The way the NFL is theses days you need at least one solid coverage safety. We have ZERO.



Oh JFC. Guy is in his 2nd year. Last I checked, your boy Artie is getting toasted a couple times a game as well. Doesn't tackle real well either. Maybe give them some time to mature. You are the same guy that didn't want Troy because his head was too big. I'll follow the coaches judgement on this one.
 
What an upgrade that would be. This has to be Mitchell's last season as a starter I would hope.

It's the final year of his contract. Steelers have a $3M cap hit if they dump him, but save $5M. I'd rather use that $5M on a FA than have Mitchell come back to "play".

Free Safeties should have PDs and INTs. If they are tackling, it means someone got deep.

Mitchell's stats this year in 11 games played:

2 PDs, 0 INTs.

He is invisible as a starter on this D, and can be upgraded by anyone in FA.

Conversely with Davis, who is a SS and should have more tackles playing closer to the LOS, and firing inside, is having a much better year. In 14 games:

82 Tackles 7 PDs 2 INTs 1 FF

If you want to compare safeties on this team and productivity, there is no comparison. At least Davis makes plays. Mitchell has done nothing.
 
It's the final year of his contract. Steelers have a $3M cap hit if they dump him, but save $5M. I'd rather use that $5M on a FA than have Mitchell come back to "play".

Free Safeties should have PDs and INTs. If they are tackling, it means someone got deep.

Mitchell's stats this year in 11 games played:

2 PDs, 0 INTs.

He is invisible as a starter on this D, and can be upgraded by anyone in FA.

Conversely with Davis, who is a SS and should have more tackles playing closer to the LOS, and firing inside, is having a much better year. In 14 games:

82 Tackles 7 PDs 2 INTs 1 FF

If you want to compare safeties on this team and productivity, there is no comparison. At least Davis makes plays. Mitchell has done nothing.

Both need to be replaced. Davis may have more action, but he seems to be targeted more often, meaning teams know he is suspect in coverage.

Ability or lack their of is one thing, but both are STUPID players.

I'm on board for S, and ILB in round one, unless Ben retires.
 
The thing with Gronk is that he is a freak of nature. Other teams my shut him down, but you have to commit the resources and the *'s are still scoring 27+.

Unless you put a big guy on him to stall him at the line, he will, eventually, pummel a smaller guy and get over on him. If you put the big guy on him, it is likely that your big guy is not as fast as Gronk and he doesn't get jammed as much as you want. now you have taken one of your big guys out of rushing brady or defending against the run.

I keep bringing this up because people seem to think stopping Gronk is easier than it is or doesn't cause its own problem. Gronk would be a problem even if the *'s were not cheating pieces of ****.

2015 1st game of the year, Gronk gets 3TD's on us. Board freaks out. Rex Ryan comes out (buffalo is playing the *'s the next week or the week after). Assures the media that his team won't be letting Gronk score 4TD. Board freaks out "Now, that is how you coach." blah, blah, blah. Sure enough, Gronk did not score 3TD's....the rest of the team scored 40 points, though....Through the rest of the year, Gronk gets no more than 1 TD in a game. Lots of games with none. It would still be game 8 before the *'s scored less points than they scored against us (28). In all but 4 games that year, they scored 27 or more points.
 
Mitchell is the biggest weakness. QBs throw passes 30 yds down the middle of the field, and Mitchell is either standing there watching, or continues to run backwards. Why? Other safeties run up and make a play on something that deep. He did it at least 2 times when Davis was trailing Gronk.
 
I was wishing to have Weddle over Mitchell this year...



I'd take that in less than a New York 3.2 minute..................................




Salute the nation
 
I have thought for a long time that Carnell Lake has to carry some of the secondarys lapses. How many safties and corners have we brought in, and under Lake they suck. Fire Carnell Lake!
 
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