The thing that surprises me the most about this thread is that Coach had to look up the meaning of an Uncle Tom...
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Why? This is the same guy who called polamalu a bust, because his head was too big to play safety.
The thing that surprises me the most about this thread is that Coach had to look up the meaning of an Uncle Tom...
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I still don't quite get this. 12+million of his cap hit is his salary. 4 million is a roster bonus due March 18th. If he's traded the salary goes with him and the roster bonus doesn't have to be paid. Why is there still a 21 million cap hit?Everything you need to know about what happens when they trade when... basically there is 21M of cap hit to eat if he's traded. Trade before June 1 and it all hits in 2019. Trade after June 1 and that is split over 2019 and 2020.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/antonio-brown-6702/
I think it has something to do with the restructuring he's done to push salary to bonus money.
I guess maybe his final 3 years of pro-rated bonus money is accelerated to this season maybe. Where the hell is TMC?????
Everything you need to know about what happens when they trade when... basically there is 21M of cap hit to eat if he's traded. Trade before June 1 and it all hits in 2019. Trade after June 1 and that is split over 2019 and 2020.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/antonio-brown-6702/
We've won 7? Damn that must have been a long nap.
Yes. All the pro-rated bonus from the rest of the contract counts as a cap hit in 2019 if he's traded before June. It is divided between 2019 and 2020 if traded after 1 June.
While they save the salary, they have to eat the cap hit from the rest of the bonus. Saves the team real dollars (salary), but accelerates the cap hit.
I know a secret down at Uncle Tom's cabin
I know a secret that I just can't tell
I know a secret down at Uncle Tom's cabin
Know a secret that I just can't tell
I know a secret down at Uncle Tom's cabin
Know who put the bodies, know who put the bodies in the wishin' well
Haha. That old time **** was so greasy and violent. Like a bed time story for a kid where someone is getting put in an oven by a witch. Nice.
But AB better watch it cause Uncle Ryan knows where all the bodies are buried.
The thing that surprises me the most about this thread is that Coach had to look up the meaning of an Uncle Tom...
Bouchette is wrong, unless moving Brown involves him paying back some of his signing bonus to get a trade. $21M is in stone, but there are instances where a player has paid back part of a signing bonus, and that reduces the cap. If Brown is going to get a brand new contract, possibly in the $100M range, he could conceivably give the Steelers $20M if he's getting over $40M in guarantees. He's still making out, gets a higher salary, and the Steelers are out of cap hell. The problem with moving him though, is value. He's not a 1 first round draft pick trade. AB is a GOAT. It's like trading Rice in his prime. What team wouldn't give everything to get a Rice in his prime? This can possibly be played like the Hershel Walker trade. Walker was a HOFer, and a GOAT at the time for RBs, Dallas parlayed that trade into 3 superbows. Minimum that I would take for AB is 3 1sts. 1 first for a pro bowler, 2 firsts for a franchise player, 3 firsts for a HOFer/GOAT. That is intelligent market value for AB.
And some of your numbers you're throwing around are off. The bonus is $2.5M not $4.
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I still don't quite get this. 12+million of his cap hit is his salary. 4 million is a roster bonus due March 18th. If he's traded the salary goes with him and the roster bonus doesn't have to be paid. Why is there still a 21 million cap hit?
I guess maybe his final 3 years of pro-rated bonus money is accelerated to this season maybe. Where the hell is TMC?????
Three 1st round picks.
That's not realistic thinking. If we could get one high 1st round pick we would be fortunate and should take it. If we got a 1st and a 3rd-4th then we are more than fortunate and should take it. This guy is 30 so he is past his prime, his best years are in the rear view mirror already. Add in the public drama and you've now eliminated over half the league as potential trading partners. There are teams who just won't want his personality (for good reason). Yes, there are always teams like the Raiders, Patriots, Bengals, etc who will take anyone's castoffs and either regret it (Raiders & Bengals) or turn them into serviceable players to win now with (Patriots).
The only thing that makes a trade for worthwhile assets a possibility is the fact that the trading team would get him at below market value on their books. The team that trades for him is not responsible for paying any portion of the signing bonus, they only take on the salary portion of the contract. That makes him a bargain on their books financially. If they think they can manage his ego then it makes sense financially to the trading team. It's still a tough pill to swallow on Pittsburgh's finances with that massive cap penalty.
Haha I never knew it was a modern song. I assumed it was from the original story.Hey, careful with that "old time ****". I heard that song live in concert and I'm not ready to admit I'm old!!!
Everyone knows that the Steelers need to get rid of Brown, so we definitely don't hold the cards on the trade.
Will be interesting to see who would take him after watching this fiasco unfold. Would be wild if he were to be released and nobody picks him up like Kaepernick. Not sure if the owners have enough solidarity for that or not but if this reckless behavior is rewarded, it will become standard practice and will hurt the league in the long run.