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Bills Likely to Rest Starters Too -- McDermott Outmaneuvers Tomlin

Hope Tua magically goes off on the Bills while Rudolph wins in his return trip to the armpit of 'merica.
 
The idea behind this thread is dumb. After Mason Rudolph gets his revenge and the Stillers whip the Browns, nothing changes. You play the team in front of you, kick their *** and then move on to the next one. The shoulda, coulda, woulda guessing game is for palm readers.
 
CoolieMan said:
oh **** this is some bullshit.

Hell Miami might have beat a full strength Bills team....Cleveland could lose to a Steeler team starting some back ups

The bungles could stand up and beat the ratbirds

this thread is idiotic Tomlin hate at its finest
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Resting our Starters to me is WAYYYYYYYYYY more important than the #2 seed...

I don't like this THREAD
 
topseed said:
I already explained it. He now gets to rest his starters, still gets the #2 seed, and compels the Steelers to play their physical archrivals for the third time this season in the first round. Whichever team makes it out of that game (and I would guess Baltimore at this point) is going to be beat up, mentally drained, and weaker in round 2. Meanwhile, the Bills get to play Cleveland, a team which hasn't made the playoffs in almost 20 years, and is still dealing with Covid issues.

It's not equivalent, it's superior.
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So, what if the STEELERS win.................... ?

There is as good a possibility as that happening




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Superman said:
to the contrary, the Dolphins are not out of the hunt. If they beat Buffalo, they're in and Baltimore is out.
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I think Balt is in unless they lose. We need Buffalo to win to prevent playing Balt it seems unless Rudolph leads us to victory. We could also prevent playing them if we win and miami wins. If Buffalo and Cle win Tenn will play Balt which would be good. They can beat each other up.
 
Ravens just have to win and they're in.

It's not a given that the Browns are going to beat us. If the Bills want to risk losing the 2 seed then I'm cool with that.

I'm not scared of the ******* Ravens anyhow, **** them.
 
Tomlin sucks, but this thread sucks more.
 
depending on the other games the rats could end up anywhere from 5th to 7th if they win with a loss they could be 6th or 7th based on the other games...
 
So here is tge tiebreakers

Miami beats everyone in a tie... they only miss if everyone else wins and they lose

The Ravens beat the Browns and the colts. They lose a head to head with the titans

The brown beat the Titans and colts head to head... but because the ravens beat them in a tiebreaker If the ravens are tied with them they cannot get a spot until the Ravens have one

The Titans beat the ravens head to head but also have the tiebreaker Overcthe colts so mostly they get the division win and aren’t a wildcard

The colts lose to everyone unless they have one more win than them
 
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topseed said:
It's Tomlin's prerogative to sit or play whomever he wants. However, he laid out his plan publicly early on; now McDermott is most certainly taking advantage. Let's be honest -- most of us just assumed Buffalo was going to beat Miami, and the Steelers were going to avoid the Ravens in the first round. Now that's not going to be the case. Why? Because of this move by McDermott.

I didn't listen to his interview, but if Ben is asking out of a game, his leadership days with this team are done. And so are the Steelers.
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I doubt the Steelers are as afraid of the Ravens as you are.
 
Why are we worried about who we're facing,
either we beat the ravens and move on or not.
I hope they're giving us points. Let's face it, Harbaugh,
media and company think they're the better team.
I like being the underdogs in the pundits mind
against the Ravens when it's anyone's
game.
 
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topseed said:
Just like the adjustments made in the second half a few weeks ago, the Bills coach gets the better of Tomlin again, He let Tomlin put his cards on the table early in the week; now that McDermott knows the Steelers are resting Ben and other key starters, he'll do the same, and set up a first round matchup for his team with the struggling Browns. While forcing the Steelers to play the Ravens and beat the **** out of each other in the first round.

Smart move.
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Every coach going to the playoffs will be doing the same thing.

Nothing to see here...

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topseed said:
I already explained it. He now gets to rest his starters, still gets the #2 seed, and compels the Steelers to play their physical archrivals for the third time this season in the first round. Whichever team makes it out of that game (and I would guess Baltimore at this point) is going to be beat up, mentally drained, and weaker in round 2. Meanwhile, the Bills get to play Cleveland, a team which hasn't made the playoffs in almost 20 years, and is still dealing with Covid issues.

It's not equivalent, it's superior.
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Cleveland is the better team, offensively, and the Bills won't just cake walk them. Baker and his WRs and that running game will be a good challenge. Write it down.

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I may be wrong, but I think that the point of topseed’s argument is that the time off didn’t need to be communicated. Tomlin could have chosen to stay silent, or even slyly make references to starters playing to compete for the better seed, just to keep the Bills off balance and potentially force them to compete in their game for a better position. Why publicly admit a strategy to rest players when you don’t need to do that? It’s similar to announcing a scheduled time and place to attack an enemy, or withdraw from a theater of combat on such schedule, in wartime. Strategically, if genuine, it’s not a good idea. The only reason such an admission might ever be a good idea would be to throw the enemy off, and to then do something different in the hopes of achieving surprise.

Clearly the second case isn’t in effect here, as the Steelers have little to gain and much to lose by playing starters against the covid infested Browns (which, I think, is the way the NFL ends up screwing the Steelers the most by forcing the game to go forward and risking a subsequent covid outbreak for the Steelers, in response to the other thread). Personally, I don’t think it matters much which seed either team gets, as so much is in doubt in terms of team performances this week and the resulting seeding for all the teams in play, even if all starters were available and playing. That said, I appreciate topseed’s line of thought. There should be plenty of room here for opinions we don’t agree with; that’s what makes life interesting. Our record of postseason underachievement over the past decade definitely doesn’t point to settled science on strategic or tactical decision making.

At the end of the day, the Steelers need to beat whomever is put in front of them, which may be the Ravens, then the Bills, then the Chiefs, to get a ticket to the big dance. An even more important coaching analysis of Tomlin can be done when that path comes to its natural conclusion.
 
If I'm Mikey Cool Shades I don't show up for the Browns game and take the forfeit. Doesn't matter much if we win and I wouldn't risk players getting the 'Rona from the Browns whether they're starters or not. The team can pay the players anyway, or from what I heard they're already paid anyway.
Won't happen though. Too much TV money to lose.
 
dv13 said:
I may be wrong, but I think that the point of topseed’s argument is that the time off didn’t need to be communicated. Tomlin could have chosen to stay silent, or even slyly make references to starters playing to compete for the better seed, just to keep the Bills off balance and potentially force them to compete in their game for a better position. Why publicly admit a strategy to rest players when you don’t need to do that? It’s similar to announcing a scheduled time and place to attack an enemy, or withdraw from a theater of combat on such schedule, in wartime. Strategically, if genuine, it’s not a good idea. The only reason such an admission might ever be a good idea would be to throw the enemy off, and to then do something different in the hopes of achieving surprise.

Clearly the second case isn’t in effect here, as the Steelers have little to gain and much to lose by playing starters against the covid infested Browns (which, I think, is the way the NFL ends up screwing the Steelers the most by forcing the game to go forward and risking a subsequent covid outbreak for the Steelers, in response to the other thread). Personally, I don’t think it matters much which seed either team gets, as so much is in doubt in terms of team performances this week and the resulting seeding for all the teams in play, even if all starters were available and playing. That said, I appreciate topseed’s line of thought. There should be plenty of room here for opinions we don’t agree with; that’s what makes life interesting. Our record of postseason underachievement over the past decade definitely doesn’t point to settled science on strategic or tactical decision making.

At the end of the day, the Steelers need to beat whomever is put in front of them, which may be the Ravens, then the Bills, then the Chiefs, to get a ticket to the big dance. An even more important coaching analysis of Tomlin can be done when that path comes to its natural conclusion.
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Andy Reid says,"hi"...

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dv13 said:
I may be wrong, but I think that the point of topseed’s argument is that the time off didn’t need to be communicated. Tomlin could have chosen to stay silent, or even slyly make references to starters playing to compete for the better seed, just to keep the Bills off balance and potentially force them to compete in their game for a better position. Why publicly admit a strategy to rest players when you don’t need to do that? It’s similar to announcing a scheduled time and place to attack an enemy, or withdraw from a theater of combat on such schedule, in wartime. Strategically, if genuine, it’s not a good idea. The only reason such an admission might ever be a good idea would be to throw the enemy off, and to then do something different in the hopes of achieving surprise.

Clearly the second case isn’t in effect here, as the Steelers have little to gain and much to lose by playing starters against the covid infested Browns (which, I think, is the way the NFL ends up screwing the Steelers the most by forcing the game to go forward and risking a subsequent covid outbreak for the Steelers, in response to the other thread). Personally, I don’t think it matters much which seed either team gets, as so much is in doubt in terms of team performances this week and the resulting seeding for all the teams in play, even if all starters were available and playing. That said, I appreciate topseed’s line of thought. There should be plenty of room here for opinions we don’t agree with; that’s what makes life interesting. Our record of postseason underachievement over the past decade definitely doesn’t point to settled science on strategic or tactical decision making.

At the end of the day, the Steelers need to beat whomever is put in front of them, which may be the Ravens, then the Bills, then the Chiefs, to get a ticket to the big dance. An even more important coaching analysis of Tomlin can be done when that path comes to its natural conclusion.
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The problems with that are:

1. My mother knew that Ben was out this game. As far as other starters, none were announced.
2. You could gleam who was going to be out on Wednesday when the practice report and injury reports were released. Just take a look at which starters didn't participate. You would have had to have the starters actually practice and then not play in order to even try to mask what you are doing. Which not only keeps the actual starters for this game from getting the reps they need, but also defeats the purpose of trying to get your "real" starters some rest. So, by playing "cutesy" games, you actually screw yourself.
 
Of course they won't win it they will lose the AFC championship to the Steelers. Randy will mysteriously disappear before the Kansas City flight.[emoji16]
SteveA said:
The Cheifs have been close to losing their last 3 games...I say they WILL NOT WIN THE Super Bowl
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