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A lucky win. Outcoached.

if the player is on the line of scrimmage he can jump over the OL without the restriction about landing on a player....if he is off the line of scrimmage he can leap straight up but not over the OL or land on the OL
 
While I got a pain in my stomach when we went for it 4th & 1, after hearing Romo & Tomlin I do understand why Tomlin did it.

Ever been in a fight & someone keeps kicking your *** repeatedly with the same roundhouse to the head? After awhile, you wanna steer clear from that leg. In the moment, it was a gut decision that didn't work out. But that roundhouse was there waiting to smash the Steelers.

Tomlin said he "Had seen enough"...If we had a closer at RB we wouldn't be going through this every week...

So while the decision made me sick & if we lost even sicker, I do understand why he went for it 4th & 1. I just think they should have ran it up the gut. Either way, we here in the Forum were not on the field and seeing first hand that dude coming across the line to block kicks.

It was a gutsy call, & most of us would not have done it. But we were'nt on the field getting the roundhouse to the head. Either way *******, we are 8-0...Go to other teams forums today & there is whining all over the NFL. Yet, we are bitching we were outcoached. When NO ONE here has EVER won an NFL game

8-0...Scoreboard baby
 
at 1:10, you can see guy jumping the gap next to the LS - and puts his hands on his shoulder to jump the line.

 
Definitely outcoached to start the game and some nice gimmicks run by Dallas to generate first downs and points. We adjusted and mainly on Ben's arm got this back under control. We don't need weekly heart attack games.
 
glad you are posting. But if you are going to quote verbatim from an article on Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page you should " quote " it and put in the link.

I did not read Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page nor take anything from that site and post it here. I would never do that. This site was the only thing I read last night after watching the recorded game, I was unable do watch it live. I kept playing their running plays back, even someone like me could see what the Cowboys were doing. You're going to half to take my word, or not. I don't do things like that. I'm a small time poster, not trying to impress anyone.
 
Shinning those windows? HA! If you only knew. You're a low IQ man living in a dumpster

• No. 1, you explicitly said you were only here to talk about football. ******* lying sack of ****.
• No. 2, make sure you don't look like an idiot when making fun of another's IQ. Failed there as well.

You're a sad and insecure little man. Making light of PTSD in our brave ex/active members of the military? A new low.
 
I did not read Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page nor take anything from that site and post it here. I would never do that. This site was the only thing I read last night after watching the recorded game, I was unable do watch it live. I kept playing their running plays back, even someone like me could see what the Cowboys were doing. You're going to half to take my word, or not. I don't do things like that. I'm a small time poster, not trying to impress anyone.

your orignal was a good post - more posts would be most welcome by Hoot.
 
What Hoot said, keep posting KStilley. :flag:
 
who gives a hoot about Hoot?

I know, right? what a bum that guy is. But, he knows how many licks to the center of a tootsie pop.

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you see LBs in coverage because the other team schemes to get those matchups...just as the Steelers do. Yeah it sucks, but it is not just the Steelers who do this ****.

The offensive team doesn't typically dictate the defensive personnel in coverage, especially in situations where they are not in hurry-up mode. TJ Watt should not be attempting to single-cover Lamb under any circumstance, let alone in a 3 WR, 1 TE set. Other teams that do this **** have coaches who are just as clueless as Butler.
 
Linebackers have to cover receivers that is just part of the deal. If a running back is in the game you cannot sit in Dime. Those DB's cannot tackle a guy like Zeke or even their two. It was a massive loss in Bush, even though he wasn't producing splash plays to the point he was hurt. He was the guy you could put in coverage and still rally to tackle a running back. Spillane has played admirably, but the cracks are starting to show. They have been gashed in the run the last two weeks. Strangely, Spillane has shown up in pass more than run which is kinda opposite what I expected. I think we might start to see the Williamson guy from the Jets soon.

You don't have to play dime defense against a power back like Zeke. You play man-to-man in the secondary, and let the middle linebackers tackle the guy. You put a linebacker on the tight end if you have to. You don't have a pass-rushing linebacker trying to cover a polished route-running receiver 10+ yards down the field.

It's not rocket science.
 
I did not read Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page nor take anything from that site and post it here. I would never do that. This site was the only thing I read last night after watching the recorded game, I was unable do watch it live. I kept playing their running plays back, even someone like me could see what the Cowboys were doing. You're going to half to take my word, or not. I don't do things like that. I'm a small time poster, not trying to impress anyone.

All good my man. Ignore Bleeder, he's a little ornery.
 
Yeah the lb in coverage thing is league wide... its three situations... one is when the offense options a wr into a slot that the defense that is called requires a lb to pick up that spot

The second is zones the wr runs into

The third is a lb covering a short route while a blitz is on

We ***** about this way too much ... its just 2020 strategies...

Now there have been ganes where the offense is getting those matchups too much and we don’t adjust... but a few times a game its going to happen with how many 3to five wr sets teams utilize these days... plus most tes and some rbs are basically wrs as well
 
Yes, linebackers play coverage sometimes. Get it. However, the VAST majority of the time, the coverage is zone in a very defined area within 5-8 yards of the LOS, not 25 yards down the field against a WR.

"Yeah, the Eagles tried to cover Claypool with a LBer."

And gave up an easy TD.

Again, having a LBer, even one as talented as Watt, covering a WR 25 yards down the field is a recipe for a TD. So stop it.
 
if the player is on the line of scrimmage he can jump over the OL without the restriction about landing on a player....if he is off the line of scrimmage he can leap straight up but not over the OL or land on the OL

Is this what occurred? Seems like every team would have the player with the best vertical leap doing that.
 
Bleeding vag, he's a joke in that thread and a hypocrite as he sometimes bashes players too! I could quote him and start a thread with his own words, only to be ripped by some and then reveal the author later. Now that would be funny. I will however, help him out if he asks a football question.

OutCoached, if you keep giving yourself rope, Coolie will have no choice but to make this board better and ban your IP. You are actually admitting to plagiarize someone else. Something you’ve been caught doing several times. Dumb ***.


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Yeah the lb in coverage thing is league wide... its three situations... one is when the offense options a wr into a slot that the defense that is called requires a lb to pick up that spot

The second is zones the wr runs into

The third is a lb covering a short route while a blitz is on

We ***** about this way too much ... its just 2020 strategies...

Now there have been ganes where the offense is getting those matchups too much and we don’t adjust... but a few times a game its going to happen with how many 3to five wr sets teams utilize these days... plus most tes and some rbs are basically wrs as well

And none of your three situations listed above applied on the Cowboys' touchdown play, so...?

Any defensive coordinator worth anything should be able to counteract pre-snap motion with a quick coverage adjustment. Unfortunately, the Steelers don't have one of those coordinators. Of course in zone coverage there will be mismatches, but the area is limited, so therefore the risk is somewhat mitigated. Of course at times you'll sacrifice coverage when blitzing, but the risk is understood because you are putting more pressure on the quarterback.

What's inexcusable, again, is trying to use a premier pass rusher to cover a talented wide receiver downfield. For no apparent reason.


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Dallas' coaching staff did a nice job on second and long and third downs that were under seven yards etc., they exploited the Steelers aggressive pass rush by giving our out side linebackers an outside lane and blocking down on our interior linemen. They gained allot of yards rushing the ball between that huge opening and I'm sure other teams took notice.

TheSteelers adjusted in the fourth quarter and basically told Gilbert to throw. Not happy with Bush being out, this is why they drafted him. He's not a great cover ILB but he plugs holes even if its after one to four yards and sideline to sideline vs. the run.

Isn't this more of a bad angle to the quarterback by the OLB than it is what the Cowboys did? I'm sure they noticed the wide rush angles on film and schemed to try and take advantage of it but it seems the simple solution is to rush the passer a bit more under control and with a more direct path to the quarterback.

Papillon
 
I had the impression that our outside linebackers were taking what the Cowboys gave them. I'm guessing they anticipated pass, the offensive tackles anchored or decided you can go outside but not inside. Once Watt and/or Dupree committed to the outside, the OT only had to push or screen to prevent them from making a tackle on the unanticipated run.The OLBs may very well have done what you said later in the game, I'm not sure but our sack totals were not what at least I expected. Watt was still pressuring, he may have been a little late because he was doing exactly what you said in the second half. I thought the Cowboys figured we better slow these guys up at the beginning of the game even if it cost them a few first downs, thing was they were so successful running the ball early they were still moving the chains.
 
Yes, linebackers play coverage sometimes. Get it. However, the VAST majority of the time, the coverage is zone in a very defined area within 5-8 yards of the LOS, not 25 yards down the field against a WR.

"Yeah, the Eagles tried to cover Claypool with a LBer."

And gave up an easy TD.

Again, having a LBer, even one as talented as Watt, covering a WR 25 yards down the field is a recipe for a TD. So stop it.

You are weakening 2 spots. First the pass rush is suffering and 2nd your coverage is weaker. It makes 0 sense. I dont mind an occasional drop back into a short zone, but Watt and Dupree need to be doing what they do best 90% of the time.
 
I'll add that the OLBs weren't pulling a Gildon where they went so wide they could pick up some bbq in Fort Worth on the way to the QB.
 
Is this what occurred? Seems like every team would have the player with the best vertical leap doing that.

To a certain extent - I witness the player from Dallas 'use his teammates' to catapult him over the LOS. It should have been a flag every time...
 
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