A interesting situation next week

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Vegas has spoken. Steelers are 7 point underdog to the browns. Pretty clear statement that Vegas sees the steelers resting players

 

[Zack_of_Steel]

^THIS^

Home Field advantage is pretty much non-existent this year. I read somewhere - I think DKPS but not sure - that home teams barely have an edge over visiting teams in the W-L columns this year. Assume it is due to no fans. I been to preseason games, I been to regular season games and I been to playoff games. I swear to god the noise in the playoffs would drown out a rock concert and register over 7 on the Richter scale. This year, not so much.

I assume this is the article you're talking about:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/11/11/home-field-advantage-is-lie/

Just looking at W-L is cherry picking and ignoring context. The article, despite its clickbait title, shows how road teams have been favored at a far higher rate this season than most, which has skewed the numbers.

Inside that article is also a link to an article detailing how Home Field Advantage (HFA) isn't related to fans, but travel:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...age-nfl-its-not-fans/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4

Time zones and altitude have a tangible effect and are still present regardless of the amount of fans in the seats. Sleeping in a new location while traveling is also a part of HFA.

This study published in 2016 shows how half of your brain stays alert during the first night of sleep in a new location. It's a primal instinct that we have to keep us alert and ready for unforeseen danger:
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30174-9

A summary of the study can be found at either of these locations:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ain-stands-guard-when-sleeping-in-a-new-place
https://www.popsci.com/your-brain-stays-half-awake-when-you-sleep-in-new-place/?sr=SOC&dom=fb


HFA still means as much as it always has because it's not really about fans in the first place.

 

[Hoot]

I assume this is the article you're talking about:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/11/11/home-field-advantage-is-lie/

Just looking at W-L is cherry picking and ignoring context. The article, despite its clickbait title, shows how road teams have been favored at a far higher rate this season than most, which has skewed the numbers.

Inside that article is also a link to an article detailing how Home Field Advantage (HFA) isn't related to fans, but travel:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...age-nfl-its-not-fans/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4

Time zones and altitude have a tangible effect and are still present regardless of the amount of fans in the seats. Sleeping in a new location while traveling is also a part of HFA.

This study published in 2016 shows how half of your brain stays alert during the first night of sleep in a new location. It's a primal instinct that we have to keep us alert and ready for unforeseen danger:
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30174-9

A summary of the study can be found at either of these locations:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ain-stands-guard-when-sleeping-in-a-new-place
https://www.popsci.com/your-brain-stays-half-awake-when-you-sleep-in-new-place/?sr=SOC&dom=fb


HFA still means as much as it always has because it's not really about fans in the first place.

nope - I don't read the WP so that wasn't it. I think I read it here. It was just the win/loss record of home teams.

 

[slashsteel]

The other angle to look at this is who plays the Steelers harder the clowns or the rats? It might be better for the Steelers if they rest the players resulting in the clowns winning which I believe eliminates the rats. This might be the better approach if getting the 2nd seed is unlikely.

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[Zack_of_Steel]

nope - I don't read the WP so that wasn't it. I think I read it here. It was just the win/loss record of home teams.

You don't have to read WP to have seen the contents of the article thrown around. DK and co aren't doing their own giant, league-wide and historical statistical articles, they're all reposting bits of the ones they see. It's the soundbyte **** that tweeter craps out.

Regardless, the data points to HFA being related to travel.

 

[Cras108er]

The other angle to look at this is who plays the Steelers harder the clowns or the rats? It might be better for the Steelers if they rest the players resulting in the clowns winning which I believe eliminates the rats. This might be the better approach if getting the 2nd seed is unlikely.

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Given our history against “cake teams” in the playoffs, maybe we should be hoping to play the Ravens. Just saying. lol


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[jitter77]

Yeah they've won 7 games by 4 or less points i believe, I called them the juggernaut because that's how the media treats them.
I'm putting Sutton on Kelce all game if that happens

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The Chiefs are an absurd 22-1 or 23-1 in their last games. They deserve their juggernaut status in my opinion. Of course they are beatable and you could say odds are they are due to lose, but their record is impressive and they are the defending champs. I also think they will turn it up in the playoffs.

 

[slashsteel]

Given our history against “cake teams” in the playoffs, maybe we should be hoping to play the Ravens. Just saying. lol


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I don't think this is a typical Steelers team so not going to lump them all together. besides if they didn't beat the clowns then there really would be no excuses right? That would be a huge coaching fail.

I think 9 out of 10 times the rats are the harder matchup. Better defense, better running backs led by Action Jackson.

 

[topseed]

I assume this is the article you're talking about:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/11/11/home-field-advantage-is-lie/

Just looking at W-L is cherry picking and ignoring context. The article, despite its clickbait title, shows how road teams have been favored at a far higher rate this season than most, which has skewed the numbers.

Inside that article is also a link to an article detailing how Home Field Advantage (HFA) isn't related to fans, but travel:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...age-nfl-its-not-fans/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4

Time zones and altitude have a tangible effect and are still present regardless of the amount of fans in the seats. Sleeping in a new location while traveling is also a part of HFA.

This study published in 2016 shows how half of your brain stays alert during the first night of sleep in a new location. It's a primal instinct that we have to keep us alert and ready for unforeseen danger:
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30174-9

A summary of the study can be found at either of these locations:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ain-stands-guard-when-sleeping-in-a-new-place
https://www.popsci.com/your-brain-stays-half-awake-when-you-sleep-in-new-place/?sr=SOC&dom=fb


HFA still means as much as it always has because it's not really about fans in the first place.

Road teams have been favored at a far higher rate in 2020 for good reason -- home teams currently have the worst winning percentage (50%) for any season since the NFL expanded to 32 teams in 2002. The average win rate from 2002-2019 was 57%; the two other lowest years were 2006 (53%) and 2019 (52%). There's been seasons as high as 61%.

It's not a coincidence that 2020 home teams are in danger of a having losing season. "Just looking" at almost 20 years of win-loss data is NOT "cherry-picking and ignoring context."

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

It seems that weather may be the biggest homefield advantage this year. GB looks to have the 1 seed. How will teams like the Saints, Rams and Bucs fare in GB in January.

 

[Zack_of_Steel]

Road teams have been favored at a far higher rate in 2020 for good reason -- home teams currently have the worst winning percentage (50%) for any season since the NFL expanded to 32 teams in 2002. The average win rate from 2002-2019 was 57%; the two other lowest years were 2006 (53%) and 2019 (52%). There's been seasons as high as 61%.

It's not a coincidence that 2020 home teams are in danger of a having losing season. "Just looking" at almost 20 years of win-loss data is NOT "cherry-picking and ignoring context."

Your sentence relating to stats doesn't mean what you think it means...

They are favored heading into the game because they are the better team...Then they beat the home team because they are better...The article literally explains that.

 

[topseed]

Your sentence relating to stats doesn't mean what you think it means...

They are favored heading into the game because they are the better team...Then they beat the home team because they are better...The article literally explains that.

My sentence means exactly what I think it means. You do realize that the article you keep referring to was written in May, right? You know, before the 2020 NFL season?

 

[Zack_of_Steel]

My sentence means exactly what I think it means. You do realize that the article you keep referring to was written in May, right? You know, before the 2020 NFL season?

The article was from November, clearly you're lost here.

 

[topseed]

The article was from November, clearly you're lost here.

"What creates home-field advantage in the NFL? It’s not the fans.
By
Neil Greenberg
May 14, 2020 at 2:56 p.m. EDT"


This is an article which YOU posted. Clearly, it's YOU who's lost.

 

[Steelz]

It's the Browns