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A Football Life- Bill Cowher

mr peeples said:
It may be, but he also lost home AFCC games when favored in that span.....he coached scared in the post season until Ben forced him to stop it.
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Cope said:
That's wrong 'Steeler fan'. Any Steeler fan know what changed. Come on, you know it right?

Sorry, you can't look this one up on a stats sheet...
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Anyone but a NE fan will admit what changed.......Ernie A.


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I will always like Coach Cowher. I don't think he got enough success considering some of his teams. I always found he wore the bus out the first 2/3 of the season and they really never got enough out of him in the playoffs.
 
SteelerSask said:
I will always like Coach Cowher. I don't think he got enough success considering some of his teams. I always found he wore the bus out the first 2/3 of the season and they really never got enough out of him in the playoffs.
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We had O'Dummy and Kordell. When we got into the playoffs, we were playing against the best teams who knew exactly what we were going to do. We did it anyway, and while his stats dropped, he made the plays. Jerome did not get worn out. He wore other teams out, even when his stats dropped a bit.

I had to edit. I was thinking about the Urlacher run but that was under Tomlin and Ben. I guess you could say that Tomlin got more out of Bettis in the playoffs than Cowher, but it's completely different with Ben at QB. Difficult to imagine that Tomlin would use Bettis better than Cowher with Neil and Sweetness under center.
 
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CharlesDavenport said:
We had O'Dummy and Kordell. When we got into the playoffs, we were playing against the best teams who knew exactly what we were going to do. We did it anyway, and while his stats dropped, he made the plays. Jerome did not get worn out. He wore other teams out, even when his stats dropped a bit.

I had to edit. I was thinking about the Urlacher run but that was under Tomlin and Ben. I guess you could say that Tomlin got more out of Bettis in the playoffs than Cowher, but it's completely different with Ben at QB. Difficult to imagine that Tomlin would use Bettis better than Cowher with Neil and Sweetness under center.
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You drunk, chuck?? Bettis trucking Urlacher was at the tail end of the 2005 season, that was most definitely not with Tomlin, Bill was still the coach. Bettis never played for Tomlin
 
Betis needed a complementary back to lower his touches. And I'm not talking 2005. He was a closer than. Nothing more. Im talking those '97-2002 teams. Dude was a beast. But you run like that and you get worn down too. By the end he couldn't even walk down stairs. That defense, a fresher Bettis , some Korkie runs and a few passes here and there. Should have been enough. As I said I like Cowher. But let's be realistic too.
 
Cope said:
That's wrong 'Steeler fan'. Any Steeler fan know what changed. Come on, you know it right?

Sorry, you can't look this one up on a stats sheet...
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Seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears: Ben implored BC not to "handcuff" him on the sidelines during that 2006 Super Bowl run. Bing. Bong. Emma get the marbles.
 
Omar10213245 said:
You drunk, chuck?? Bettis trucking Urlacher was at the tail end of the 2005 season, that was most definitely not with Tomlin, Bill was still the coach. Bettis never played for Tomlin
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Yes, BC coached through the 2006 season, only one year after we won the SB. MY took over in 2007 and "wore the team down to a nub" where we got bounced early by Jags; our guys had no legs.
 
mr peeples said:
It may be, but he also lost home AFCC games when favored in that span.....he coached scared in the post season until Ben forced him to stop it.

Bill was just like his mentor, Marty S., when it came to that.

Losing to SD, NE and Denver at home AFCC games was really bad.

Hell, he damn near lost to Indy in 1995 AFCC game as well. And they were one of the weakest teams to ever play in a AFCC game, as not only were they not
that good to begin with, they were decimated by injuries to boot, missing their best RB/player (Faulk), AND defender (Coryatt).
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Cowher is 5-1 with Ben in the playoffs, and won playoff games with a very average group of QB's. I'm 100% sure he cost himself a hall of fame spot retiring when he but I guess he had his reasons with his wife being very ill and teenage children to raise. My DVR is set.
 
mr peeples said:
Seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears: Ben implored BC not to "handcuff" him on the sidelines during that 2006 Super Bowl run. Bing. Bong. Emma get the marbles.
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Close, but no cigar. Any other Steeler fans want to take a shot?
 
Anyone else surprised that he didn't return to coaching? I can understand why when his wife was sick, but since her passing thought for sure he would take another NFL or college job.
 
Man, a lot of memories. Cowher was a great coach. I never knew he had a close relationship with Bellichick for a while.


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Coach said:
Cowher is 5-1 with Ben in the playoffs, and won playoff games with a very average group of QB's. I'm 100% sure he cost himself a hall of fame spot retiring when he but I guess he had his reasons with his wife being very ill and teenage children to raise. My DVR is set.
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Cowher will be in the Hall of Fame. It's insane Tony Dungy (amongst others) is in and he isn't. Cowher rebuilt a team and sustained it for his career. The bulk of Dungy's wins came when he inherited a ready to go team and Peyton Manning.
 
Coach said:
Cowher is 5-1 with Ben in the playoffs, and won playoff games with a very average group of QB's. I'm 100% sure he cost himself a hall of fame spot retiring when he but I guess he had his reasons with his wife being very ill and teenage children to raise. My DVR is set.
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Full disclosure. That only accounts for two seasons, one of which ended in yet another devastating home loss in the AFCC game. He coached the SB winning team to an 8-8 record the following year (the same team Tomlin took to the SB)

I love Bill Cowher as a coach, but let’s not engage in revisionist history.


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Frosty said:
Anyone else surprised that he didn't return to coaching? I can understand why when his wife was sick, but since her passing thought for sure he would take another NFL or college job.
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The “Football Life” episode showed a different side of Cowher. His decision not to go back to coaching appears to have been 100% about work/life balance. I think he realized (and maybe Kay’s death helped him understand) that coaching takes a tremendous toll on one’s life. Sounds like he’s not willing to pay that price anymore. Some things are more important than football.


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steelhurt said:
Those 60’s were some bleak years man. I remember going to old Pitt Stadium as a kid watching the Steelers get beat. Saw lots of teams come into Pitt Stadium: Eagles, Giants, Bears, Browns, Cards, Rams, Skins, Cowboys, Vikes, Lions. ****, I went to a lot of games at that old stadium with the wooden benches. We used to lose just about all those games I went to. Some terrible Steeler teams but it was still fun going and hoping.
All that changed when Dan Rooney took control and one Chas Noll was hired.
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Wow...at last I find someone on this site older than me.

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Cowher did something few coaches can do. He took some very decent teams with questionable QBing to AFCC games and the playoffs. He would have to find cheap players every year because the Steelers would lose many to FA. This was before Heinz field and the new CBA. Hell they couldn't even afford to keep their own players like Searcy and O'Donnell.

Cowher also had issues with Donahoe who over ruled him and drafted Troy Edwards. Cowher was going to resign if Donahoe stayed on. Luckily Rooney fired Donahoe and kept Cowher.

Hell, just taking Kordell "wormburner" Stewart anywhere close to a AFCC game is a coaching miracle.
 
Vader said:
Cowher did something few coaches can do. He took some very decent teams with questionable QBing to AFCC games and the playoffs. He would have to find cheap players every year because the Steelers would lose many to FA. This was before Heinz field and the new CBA. Hell they couldn't even afford to keep their own players like Searcy and O'Donnell.

Cowher also had issues with Donahoe who over ruled him and drafted Troy Edwards. Cowher was going to resign if Donahoe stayed on. Luckily Rooney fired Donahoe and kept Cowher.

Hell, just taking Kordell "wormburner" Stewart anywhere close to a AFCC game is a coaching miracle.
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Those Kordell years after that AFCCG complete meltdown vs Denver I had zero hope of winning a superbowl. That was reality. Sucked.
 
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