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Kenny Pickett (QB - Pitt)................I gotta say this about him.....

He wouldn't have won 9 games this season, he wouldn't have orchestrated those 4th qtr wins.
True but, as I said, with a team around him he can win that and Tomlin and Rooney will be just happy maybe sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the playoff round.
 
With a team around him, Rudolph can win 9 or 10 games a season to keep Tomlin's streak alive. He won't light anything on fire with his play but he is capable of winning as he has already shown. We won't be winning any championships with him. That seems to be just fine with Tomlin.
I agree. Spend money on OL and DL.
Starting with OT's, get Rudolph and Najee (and OL) practicing the screen. over and over and over again!
 
I'd take Rudy and Dwayne over Kenny "It took me 5 years to develop into a college QB" Pickett...
Yeah, Dwayne "It Took Me Only 2 Years to Develop into a College QB" Haskins is really tearing up the NFL 3 years later, isn't he? I can see why you'd take him instead. Makes perfect sense.
Golly guys, you two sure do love to poke the teddy bear; don'tcha?
:sneaky:
I bet you'd really love to poke that bear. Sorry, pal, can't help you.
 
It really isn’t a must, more of a luxury… they have cam Sutton, who is great in the slot but average outside, and Pierre who actually has serious potential. Witherspoon looks like a starter that probably can be signed cheap…

They have several cheap young slot options as well… if Haden doesn’t come back they need another outside guy but that almost certainly needs to be a vet type…

The real shame is that the Lions poached both Shakur Brown and Gilbert off of us… especially Gilbert… that dude has some first round level upside… that injury just burned his draft status
I think Pierre's stock took a big hit. Definitely not who you want to throw into the starting lineup. I hope they bring Spoon back and another vet to add to competition. I agree on Gilbert he looked like he had some promise.
 
I think Pierre's stock took a big hit. Definitely not who you want to throw into the starting lineup. I hope they bring Spoon back and another vet to add to competition. I agree on Gilbert he looked like he had some promise.
Pierre had a Ike Taylor moment where teams found a way to exploit him... he has the speed and talent... now its just whether they can work with him to eliminate that through better technique... its quite a frequent thing with young players... they do well, then teams find a way to get the better of them, then they either adjust and grow or fall by the way side...
 
Yeah, Dwayne "It Took Me Only 2 Years to Develop into a College QB" Haskins is really tearing up the NFL 3 years later, isn't he? I can see why you'd take him instead. Makes perfect sense.

I bet you'd really love to poke that bear. Sorry, pal, can't help you.
It has it's moments. ;)
 
Pierre had a Ike Taylor moment where teams found a way to exploit him... he has the speed and talent... now its just whether they can work with him to eliminate that through better technique... its quite a frequent thing with young players... they do well, then teams find a way to get the better of them, then they either adjust and grow or fall by the way side...
Looks like he is leaning toward the fall by the waist side.
 
True but, as I said, with a team around him he can win that and Tomlin and Rooney will be just happy maybe sneaking into the playoffs and losing in the playoff round.
The problem is the Steelers are no where near having the type of team around him he would need to succeed. Between free agency and flat out needing to upgrade a starting position they need to replace probably around 8 starters.
 
The problem is the Steelers are no where near having the type of team around him he would need to succeed. Between free agency and flat out needing to upgrade a starting position they need to replace probably around 8 starters.
So we better see at least what 6 free agents? What is your guess on what we will actually see?
 
So we better see at least what 6 free agents? What is your guess on what we will actually see?
With Colbert still holding the purse strings? Three. Two mid-level and one backup level
 
With Colbert still holding the purse strings? Three. Two mid-level and one backup level
You mean Tombert. FIFYinz. With all their available money and Omar roaming the halls highly unacceptable.
 
You mean Tombert. FIFYinz. With all their available money and Omar roaming the halls highly unacceptable.
I'm not sure that Tomlin watches the purse. I think that's Colbert with an assist from Kahn. Now, I'm pretty sure Tomlin knows how much is there at any given time and that Colbert is only going to go along with bringing in FAs of a certain "value'. So, no sense bringing any of the top tier guys up.
No matter what though, the "stingy/value oriented" approach won't work if they are trying to rebuild on the fly. Especially when they can reasonably reach about $60M in free cap space by letting go of some dead weight and a restructure or two.
 
I'm not sure that Tomlin watches the purse. I think that's Colbert with an assist from Kahn. Now, I'm pretty sure Tomlin knows how much is there at any given time and that Colbert is only going to go along with bringing in FAs of a certain "value'. So, no sense bringing any of the top tier guys up.
No matter what though, the "stingy/value oriented" approach won't work if they are trying to rebuild on the fly. Especially when they can reasonably reach about $60M in free cap space by letting go of some dead weight and a restructure or two.
They are on record saying the draft process is even Steven. I wouldn't rule out Tomlin is knee deep in the process. Anywho I agree with you they need to shake up their process as it obviously needs tweaking. I am not even advocating all top tier. Just middle of the road upgrades. Then perhaps one top tier. Just not scrap heap approach. We actually want to better the talent level come Sundays.
 
Yeah, Dwayne "It Took Me Only 2 Years to Develop into a College QB" Haskins is really tearing up the NFL 3 years later, isn't he? I can see why you'd take him instead. Makes perfect sense.

I bet you'd really love to poke that bear. Sorry, pal, can't help you.
Pickett sucks. Period.
 
Pickett sucks. Period.
I apologize if I missed this from you before, but what is it about his game that you don't think will translate to the NFL? I've watched him every week for his entire career both on TV and in person and am curious why you think he won't do anything at the NFL level.
 
I apologize if I missed this from you before, but what is it about his game that you don't think will translate to the NFL? I've watched him every week for his entire career both on TV and in person and am curious why you think he won't do anything at the NFL level.
Maybe I'm wrong - I hope I am but every time I've watched him he reminds me of Duck Hodges...
 
Maybe I'm wrong - I hope I am but every time I've watched him he reminds me of Duck Hodges...
Daniel Kelly, a former scout says Rusty Hilger. After looking up who Rusty Hilger was, I think that's a bit harsh. But, he raises some questions about Pickett's level of competition, arm strength, anticipation, throwing motion, hands, tendency to lock in, deep ball accuracy and a few other issues.

https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2021/11/kenny-pickett-4/
 
Daniel Kelly, a former scout says Rusty Hilger. After looking up who Rusty Hilger was, I think that's a bit harsh. But, he raises some questions about Pickett's level of competition, arm strength, anticipation, throwing motion, hands, tendency to lock in, deep ball accuracy and a few other issues.

https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2021/11/kenny-pickett-4/
Well it is a little harsh but I think Pickett will be an average QB in the NFL. And for all the reasons you've pointed out...
 
I'm going to go back and watch more tape. But I do remember his 'skittish' play which reminded me of Duck...
He isn't patient in the pocket and would rather roll to his right rather than step up to make a throw. Beyond that, he has good accuracy, arm strength, mobility, and size. I think he's a second-round prospect with the upside of a Cousins/Carr. I also woudn't call Pickett a system independent QB. He'll have to go to the right team to succeed.
 

Im not really a fan of this draft… I see a lot of 6-1 guys that are going to end up being mayfield clones getting overdrafted because they all want a kyler murray type short but mobile guy… its not a good strategy
Those are some bizarre--and flat out bad--comparisons from Trapasso.

Kenny Pickett doesn't remind me of Joe Burrow at all. Part of Josh Allen's specia ability is his size and strength, so I don't get the comparison for Willis. Sam Howell's comparison to Josh Dobbs is absolutely brutal. You're talking a 1st-2nd-round prospect compared to a fifth rounder who is barely good enough to be a third stringer. From Dobb's limited experience, Howell doesn't have the same style, but I would agree neither is an NFL starter.
 
Daniel Kelly, a former scout says Rusty Hilger. After looking up who Rusty Hilger was, I think that's a bit harsh. But, he raises some questions about Pickett's level of competition, arm strength, anticipation, throwing motion, hands, tendency to lock in, deep ball accuracy and a few other issues.

https://www.nfldraftdiamonds.com/2021/11/kenny-pickett-4/
Meh id take Kelly with a grain of salt… occasionally he is right but a lot of the times he is off tge mark… last year he was certain that Fields was going to blow all the rest of the qbs out of the water, called him a big version of Kyler Murray…

Look the guy is a redskins fan who badgered his way into a pro scout job with the Jets, during the mangini years I believe, lasted 4 years and has been out of the league ever since… didn’t exactly crush it as a scout… im not sold on Pickett as a true franchise guy by any means, but he had a really really good season and guys have been first round picks with lesser performances as one year wonders…

Every year kelly seems to hrp on one highly rated qb, sometimes several… as with most scouting he is hit or miss on his projections
 
I really liked watching him play in college but I think Pickett is a reach as an NFL starter. I'm sure someone will take him in the first round and I hope it is not us.

I called him a discount Johnny Manziel last year and I'll stick with it. The things he does in college I do not think will translate. Since he has been doing the same things for about 50 games, there is no upside or coaching potential. He simply does not have enough arm for the NFL and will be a TO machine.
 
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