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Hey careful that was my major.They only do lefty political science.
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Oh the Irony!
Oh, and Tibilo, speaking of ranting morons spewing asinine conspiracy theories ... remember your conspiracy theory that the information about Hunter Biden's laptop, showing Biden is a sleazebag of the worst order and his stupid greedy father was in on the scam, was "Russian disinformation"?? You remember that, don't you?
The New York Times reported Monday that the FEC ruled that Twitterās decision to block the New York Postās article last October about Hunter Bidenās laptop did not violate election laws, even though it was probably the most egregious act of political censorship by a social media company aside from the banning of President Donald Trump ā at least Twitterās excuse that Trump was violating its terms of service could be argued.
As Twitchy reported, the Times did President Biden a solid by noting in its story and tweet that the Postās story about Hunterās laptop was āunsubstantiated.ā
It seems the Times got some blowback for that tweet, as the word āunsubstantiatedā has been found to have been quietly removed from the article.
The New York Times reported Monday that the FEC ruled that Twitterās decision to block the New York Postās article last October about Hunter Bidenās laptop did not violate election laws, even though it was probably the most egregious act of political censorship by a social media company aside from the banning of President Donald Trump ā at least Twitterās excuse that Trump was violating its terms of service could be argued.
As Twitchy reported, the Times did President Biden a solid by noting in its story and tweet that the Postās story about Hunterās laptop was āunsubstantiated.ā
It seems the Times got some blowback for that tweet, as the word āunsubstantiatedā has been found to have been quietly removed from the article.
Bear in mind,I am not saying these vaccines are creating variantsā¦ there isnāt proof for or against thatā¦ just that that scenario exists for low efficiency vaccines
I don't think anyone in their right mind is thinking that, Mad.
So just deduct Trog, Tibs & 21.
So just deduct Trog, Tibs & 21.
What the world needs right now, is one who rises from from ashes of covid, a bright light, that will show us the way. We have been blessed to have such a man, one to lead us to the promised land. One who's reputation is beyond reproach.
His name.....Michael Avenatti.
His name.....Michael Avenatti.
Thought you would have said ark. Definitely ark.
Second timeā¦
Fact Check-Delta variant did not come from the COVID-19 vaccine
Posts sharing the belief that the Delta variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 comes from vaccines are false.www.reuters.com
For ***** sake JFC! /Floggy
Can you ever stay on point? And seriously, are you really this dumb? Please tell me this is an act??
SIL has made the claim that scientists have made that the vaccines are leaky. Vaccines that are leaky allow the virus to spread. As long as a virus is spreading and finding new hosts, it will mutate/evolve. The flu does this. The cold does this. Covid...is doing this.
SIL may have used the word "create" inappropriately, but we all know his point was that these vaccines may be leaky. So, in your infantile attempts to always be right and try to play "gotcha" you pushed him for a source and he provided you with one 100% solid and appropriate for the conversation: How Vaccines Can Drive Pathogens to Evolve - Just as antibiotics breed resistance in bacteria, vaccines can incite changes that enable diseases to escape their control.
Showing an article from 2018 is apropos because it's about "vaccines" and ya'll do be claim these are vaccines.
So you go off half-cocked saying he's full of **** then post an article that says DELTA DID NOT COME FROM THE VACCINES. Do you not see how these are two different discussions?? He's arguing, rightfully so, that weak vaccines can allow viruses to live on, find new hosts, and evolve.
You come back with some dumb **** fact checking saying the vaccines did not CREATE the Delta variant.
Delta was first spotted in October of last year. So.........it isn't even possible "the vaccines magically made Delta voila!"
None of which changes the fact that Covid is being spread by unvaxed and vaxed people, the vaccines are waning, and the virus has a world full of hosts in which it continues to thrive and EVOLVE.
Could you...for once...argue the topic at hand and stay ON the topic at hand?
Exactly.
SIL is arguing these vaccines are allowing the virus to evolve, Floggy is arguing that people think the vaccines are injected into people and CREATE Delta variant.
SMH.
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My view is that is not entirely or specifically due to too many Covid patients, I don't say this based on feelings or intuition but from having daughter working directly in this field at the only level 1 trauma center in Cincinnati and considering quitting herself due to the nurse shortage that has greatly reduced available beds in all departments and isn't directly due to an influx of covid patients but a lack of staff. Yes there is an uptick of patients partially due to the rise of Delta and the failing of the vaccines. It wouldn't be a big deal if Hospitals were fully staffed. They're Not and haven't been even before the virus due to a lack of Nurses and Doctors. My daughter, who is making decent money in her second year at the Hospital is still woefully underpaid. She is seriously considering quitting and working as a travel nurse. Travel nurses are being offered up to $10,000 a week due to shortages that existed before Covid and are now exasperated by vaccine mandates which at least a third of nurses in Cincinnati refuse to take and are quitting over. Nurses unlike those who were paid to stay home never got much of anything in extra pay during the worst of it and in fact many had to be laid off in departments that were closed due to needless shutdowns that killed budgets. The people who deserved the most were also ignored by all the legislation passed. Many have quit permanently to make more in other fields. Healthcare is ****** and will only get worse if the left follows through on its plans.
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Hey careful that was my major.
It was meant in making medical science political. Almost cult like in their unwavering devotion to bullshit..
science made political
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He must have been talking about the brainwashed fools wearing their little masks in the most absurd foolish places.
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Now I will admit there is little to no real science to political science.It was meant in making medical science political. Almost cult like in their unwavering devotion to bullshit..
science made political
My SIL (see what I did there? LOL) is a travel nurse. Won't get the vax either.
I file this in the folder labeled "******* Great News"
abcnews.go.com
Judge blocks medical worker vaccine mandate in NY state
A federal judge has temporarily blocked New York state from forcing medical workers to be vaccinated after a group of health care workers sued, saying their Constitutional rights were violated
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My daughter got it as she is a type 1 diabetic as I am sure I have mentioned. Makes her extremely valuable. She feels underappreciated monetarily considering what they are paying travel nurses in the same hospital and screwing their own nurses.
This is what the weird leaky virus argument is against these particular vaccines
the mrna ones target a specific spike proteinā¦ the articles raising concerns with them that were written mostly pre vaccine release to the public worried that this method ( as well as genetically modified virus vaccines like j&j might not have a great level of effect from virus mutations because its a narrow focus treatmentā¦
as a stopgap it was a good idea, I guessā¦ but long term there were concerns ā¦
This is extremely importantā¦ the antibodies and immune response from these vaccines isnt the same as a natural infection nor is it the same as a vaccine that uses the actual dead or sterile virus.
these produce more robust immune responses that typically react better and faster to viral mutations because virus donāt dramatically mutate quicklyā¦ the body still usually recognizes them and deals with them accordingly
theoretically the vaccine antibody response in some cases can create a perfect storm where it fights some of but doesnāt kill the infection and like much of evolution, when a portion of the virus is fought off but the mutations that can get around it are left to spread until the body compensates, you get faster viral mutations spreadā¦
this doesnāt happen in many vaccinesā¦ most fight the infection and mutations fairly wellā¦ this is usually a rarer thing, though using targeted genetic finagling the way these do, yes it was a possibility known at the start.
again, its just time to move to traditional vaccinesā¦ china didā¦ the rest of the world seems to be looking at thatā¦ maybe we just need a different option to be safe
the mrna ones target a specific spike proteinā¦ the articles raising concerns with them that were written mostly pre vaccine release to the public worried that this method ( as well as genetically modified virus vaccines like j&j might not have a great level of effect from virus mutations because its a narrow focus treatmentā¦
as a stopgap it was a good idea, I guessā¦ but long term there were concerns ā¦
This is extremely importantā¦ the antibodies and immune response from these vaccines isnt the same as a natural infection nor is it the same as a vaccine that uses the actual dead or sterile virus.
these produce more robust immune responses that typically react better and faster to viral mutations because virus donāt dramatically mutate quicklyā¦ the body still usually recognizes them and deals with them accordingly
theoretically the vaccine antibody response in some cases can create a perfect storm where it fights some of but doesnāt kill the infection and like much of evolution, when a portion of the virus is fought off but the mutations that can get around it are left to spread until the body compensates, you get faster viral mutations spreadā¦
this doesnāt happen in many vaccinesā¦ most fight the infection and mutations fairly wellā¦ this is usually a rarer thing, though using targeted genetic finagling the way these do, yes it was a possibility known at the start.
again, its just time to move to traditional vaccinesā¦ china didā¦ the rest of the world seems to be looking at thatā¦ maybe we just need a different option to be safe
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Nicely worded explanation.
I've seen this written about now in about a half dozen outlets.
Nearly half of the "hospitalized" cases of Covid were asymptomatic/not necessary.
www.zerohedge.com
A brand new study is calling into question how reliable and meaningful of a number of "patients hospitalized with Covid-19" in the U.S. is.
Covid hospitalizations - the most common metric heard when discussing the seriousness of the pandemic - may not be nearly as meaningful of a number as many once thought. And don't take it from us: The Atlantic published a stunning piece on Tuesday citing a new study that suggests "almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases".
The Atlantic had formerly called Covid hospitalizations āthe most reliable pandemic number,ā last winter. Now, after a nationwide study of hospitalization records was release, the publication is walking back its fervor on that statement.
Nearly half of the "hospitalized" cases of Covid were asymptomatic/not necessary.
Narrative Nuked: Nearly Half Of 'COVID Hospitalizations' This Year Have Been Mild Or Asymptomatic Cases | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
A brand new study is calling into question how reliable and meaningful of a number of "patients hospitalized with Covid-19" in the U.S. is.
Covid hospitalizations - the most common metric heard when discussing the seriousness of the pandemic - may not be nearly as meaningful of a number as many once thought. And don't take it from us: The Atlantic published a stunning piece on Tuesday citing a new study that suggests "almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases".
The Atlantic had formerly called Covid hospitalizations āthe most reliable pandemic number,ā last winter. Now, after a nationwide study of hospitalization records was release, the publication is walking back its fervor on that statement.
I posted about this yesterdayā¦ its one of the metrics we wanted to knowā¦ and now that it leaked out, we know why its not being advertisedā¦ā¦.I've seen this written about now in about a half dozen outlets.
Nearly half of the "hospitalized" cases of Covid were asymptomatic/not necessary.
Narrative Nuked: Nearly Half Of 'COVID Hospitalizations' This Year Have Been Mild Or Asymptomatic Cases | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
A brand new study is calling into question how reliable and meaningful of a number of "patients hospitalized with Covid-19" in the U.S. is.
Covid hospitalizations - the most common metric heard when discussing the seriousness of the pandemic - may not be nearly as meaningful of a number as many once thought. And don't take it from us: The Atlantic published a stunning piece on Tuesday citing a new study that suggests "almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases".
The Atlantic had formerly called Covid hospitalizations āthe most reliable pandemic number,ā last winter. Now, after a nationwide study of hospitalization records was release, the publication is walking back its fervor on that statement.
again there are basic things that can bias these numbers into scary or relatively meh scenariosā¦ understanding those makes dealing with this kind of situation more manageable
There are different types of deaths and different types of hospitalizationsā¦ there are untracked numbers of cases that have to be accounted forā¦
it was obvious that a good portion of people already in the hospital were going to catch an aerosol transmitted virusā¦ counting them as āhospitalization casesā conflates the real casesā¦ also counting cases that are admitted as precautionary was iffy.. they should have been tracked separately as wellā¦
now the interesting question is how many of these were vaxxed or notā¦ because 57% of cases could swing that number either way in this debateā¦
The other metric we need is deaths by people ineligible for the vaccine aka deathbed cases or severe immune deficienciesā¦ cause again those seriously bias the numbersā¦
Give us moar daaattttaaaa !!!!!! lol
Good point. If someone goes to the ER with mild symptoms, and is sent home with orders to take Tylenol for fever and Robitussin for cough, are they counting that as a 'hospitalization'? The average length of stay would be interesting information.