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Wheaton TD penalty

That would be fine if that's what the official called. He did not announce "The player was the first to touch the ball and went out of bounds on his own" he announced "The player went out of bounds, and did not RE-ESTABLISH himself in bounds before making the catch. Uh, bullshit, two feet, flat on the ground, with the ball in the air. Re-established. You, mr official, are wrong.

Joe
 
And re watching it they did not go to commercial, just as the guys were saying it would be reviewed back in NY, the ref comes on and says "the call on the field is the receiver did not re-establish in bounds before making the catch". So it never went under a hood, or to NY. Idiots.
 
Wheaton stepped out then back in (re-established). He really didn't "step out" he was forced out by the defender. No illegal contact or pass interference call. = Bullshit officiating #1
Wheaton made a spectacular catch in the end zone with both feet firmly in bounds. One official signaled a TD and the official in the corner of the end zone threw his hat down to question the call with the Head Zebra. That pow wow resulted in the negating of the TD for an "illegal touch". Bullshit officiating #2 and as an earlier poster said, TD's are reviewable.
Wheaton got robbed of a TD. Nuff said
 
Spilt Milk, good teams overcome the bad calls. Why didn't the play get challenged by the Steelers....... Hard to say, but there are 22 different camera angles to chose from. Why didn't a better one get used? Doesn't matter but I think it was a TD.


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Drink IRON City said:
Spilt Milk, good teams overcome the bad calls. Why didn't the play get challenged by the Steelers
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I realize no amount of complaining about it will make it a TD now, but I'm just more interested in understanding the rules and finding out what the "correct" call is in the League's eyes. What does "re-establish in bounds" mean? Does anyone at the League office think this was the wrong call? Will the officiating crews receive training or discipline as a result?

And I think one of the commentators made a comment as the whole thing was going on that because it was an automatic review of a potential scoring play, the Steelers could not challenge.
 
By stating that the player (Wheaton) did not re-establish himself, the officials acknowledge their FIRST screw-up. An offensive player re-establishing himself can ONLY happen IF a defender has pushed him out, resulting in a penalty and replay of down or allowing the result.

They did not call a defensive penalty at all. Meaning, it wouldn't have mattered IF he re-established himself without a defensive penalty BECAUSE it would have then become an offensive penalty for illegal touching. This would ALSO require enforcement of the penalty AND a replay of down. Didn't happen either. MISTAKE #2

Mike Pereira said it should have been a defensive penalty here:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...nullifying-wheaton-touchdown-against-panthers
 
JupiterBnG said:
I realize no amount of complaining about it will make it a TD now, but I'm just more interested in understanding the rules and finding out what the "correct" call is in the League's eyes. What does "re-establish in bounds" mean? Does anyone at the League office think this was the wrong call? Will the officiating crews receive training or discipline as a result?

And I think one of the commentators made a comment as the whole thing was going on that because it was an automatic review of a potential scoring play, the Steelers could not challenge.
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According to an NFL ref I know "re-establish" means just getting both feet back in bounds before touching the ball. Nothing more.
 
strat68 said:
According to an NFL ref I know "re-establish" means just getting both feet back in bounds before touching the ball. Nothing more.
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That's exactly what I would have guessed as well. Question is, how did this officiating crew not understand that?
 
All the NFL needs to do is hold the officials accountable. The Line judge that made the "illegal touch" based on "re-establishment" instead of the clear PI call should be bounced from the NFL ranks and next man up. A call or lack of a call like that could cost a team a game. In this case it didn't but what if this was a PO game or the SB? FAK him, let that douche ref. Pee Wee if he can hack it.
 
bigtwnvin said:
All the NFL needs to do is hold the officials accountable. The Line judge that made the "illegal touch" based on "re-establishment" instead of the clear PI call should be bounced from the NFL ranks and next man up. A call or lack of a call like that could cost a team a game. In this case it didn't but what if this was a PO game or the SB? FAK him, let that douche ref. Pee Wee if he can hack it.
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Are you kidding me? The last thing the NFL (big money) want are legitimate refs !!! Think of it this way, as many bad calls as we are witnessing, it will soon become the normal, for bad calls to influence the game. You have already begun to blow off the quality of officiating and that is planned. They bast yaz over and over until you become numb to it. All this time, you are thinking bad refs, its really keeping your thoughts away from "fixing" the game. This allows the betting to be hedged the way "big" Money wants it hedged. The rules / refs are designed to fail, thus the assumption of "bad officiating", covering the REAL intent of making money!!! Kapish?


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