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We were not talking about run-run-pass there genius. We were talking about running behind our 3TE's in the 3TE set. You claim we ran the other way, 4 times we ran right behind our weakest blockers, the last one being a 3rd and 8 while Bell was averaging 3 YPC

Wait I thought we ran up the middle the whole game
 

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So running the ball is smarter. JHC. You and Tomlin are perfect together. Lets just give up and run and not even try passing on 3rd and long...passing hasn't been working but neither has running, so lets just run for the hell of it.

Or maybe they saw something in game preparation that made them think it would work.. they tried it twice.

And again our QB isn't allowed to audible I guess
 

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You can run outside, you can use a FB, a counter, etc, etc. you can run from 3 wr sets, buffalo was gouging Seattle last night running from the spread.
Yeah we bitched about getting away from the run in Miami because Bell was averaging 5ypc there
 

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Wait I thought we ran up the middle the whole game

Running behind the Tackle and TE is running up the middle. Running outside the TE is considered running outside.
 

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Or maybe they saw something in game preparation that made them think it would work.. they tried it twice.

And again our QB isn't allowed to audible I guess

For 3.5 quarters...and it still wasn't working before they decided to change it up?

So again, our coaches can be woefully incompetent so long as Ben covers it up. Your words, not mine.
 

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Running behind the Tackle and TE is running up the middle. Running outside the TE is considered running outside.

Could of swore that would be off tackle. But you wanted to run outside the TEs who would now be tasked with blocking Suggs and the like at the point of attack. Cool
 

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You can run outside, you can use a FB, a counter, etc, etc. you can run from 3 wr sets, buffalo was gouging Seattle last night running from the spread.
Yeah we bitched about getting away from the run in Miami because Bell was averaging 5ypc there

FB was inactive
 

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BTW Ben just said he thought we could've went to the offense they started running in the 4th a little earlier.
So there's your answer since you didn't watch after the punt block, they used a different up pace offense in the 4th, and the QB obviously can't change things as easily as you say because he thought we should've went to it earlier.
 

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Suggs is not that good vs the run, so yeah I'd rather run at him
 

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Could of swore that would be off tackle. But you wanted to run outside the TEs who would now be tasked with blocking Suggs and the like at the point of attack. Cool

Once again, I never said a word that we should run outside. But keep spinning any way you can. I was simply explaining to you that running inside of the Tackle and TE is not the same as running off tackle with no TE on that side. Especially when we do the TE bunch formation. I have said all along that I would spread the field thin out the box then let Bell have a chance up the middle. Not the same as running right at Suggs.
 

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I know, but it doesn't have to be a FB that lines up as the FB

Yeah that was one of those three TEs either Johnson or James that they used
 

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Once again, I never said a word that we should run outside. But keep spinning any way you can. I was simply explaining to you that running inside of the Tackle and TE is not the same as running off tackle with no TE on that side. Especially when we do the TE bunch formation. I have said all along that I would spread the field thin out the box then let Bell have a chance up the middle. Not the same as running right at Suggs.


Everybody would do something different after the game. EVERYONE. Especially after a game where you lost..I'm sure Haley said the same thing after the game
 

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Everybody would do something different after the game. EVERYONE. Especially after a game where you lost..I'm sure Haley said the same thing after the game

More HYPERBOLE from you...imagine that. I was yelling to spread the field by the end of the first quarter. But don't let facts stand in the way of your arguments.
 

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BTW Ben just said he thought we could've went to the offense they started running in the 4th a little earlier.
So there's your answer since you didn't watch after the punt block, they used a different up pace offense in the 4th, and the QB obviously can't change things as easily as you say because he thought we should've went to it earlier.

Going to that offense earlier is the coaches call we all know that. I'm talking about the draw calls. He could of audible if they didn't get the looks they thought to make that call part of the gameplan.
 

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More HYPERBOLE from you...imagine that. I was yelling to spread the field by the end of the first quarter. But don't let facts stand in the way of your arguments.

And they didn't spread the field also??
 

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When did what happen? He's what 34 or 35, he's not that good vs the run, not as stout as the guys in the middle

James Harrison is 38 he still pretty good vs the run. And suggs might still be a handful for James or grimble
 

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Going to that offense earlier is the coaches call we all know that. I'm talking about the draw calls. He could of audible if they didn't get the looks they thought to make that call part of the gameplan.

Have you ever seen an NFL playbook? Most QB's do not get free reign to do as they please. An audible out of a called play is based on specific set that the defense is in. The fact that Ben does audible a good bit leads me to believe that there is a reason he was running the plays as called.
 

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And they didn't spread the field also??

We never changed up our offense until the 3.5 quarters, but you wouldn't know since you stopped watching after the blocked punt.
 

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Have you ever seen an NFL playbook? Most QB's do not get free reign to do as they please. An audible out of a called play is based on specific set that the defense is in. The fact that Ben does audible a good bit leads me to believe that there is a reason he was running the plays as called.

So now Ben can't audible. And I have never seen a NFL playbook have you?? Oh and there was a reason he was running the play as called. What would that be. That they were getting the look they were expecting but didn't block it right
 

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James Harrison is 38 he still pretty good vs the run. And suggs might still be a handful for James or grimble
Are Harrison and Suggs the same guy? No, and Suggs lines up as a de alot, so a tackle would've been blocking him alot too, especially if we spread them and ran the ball more
 

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We never changed up our offense until the 3.5 quarters, but you wouldn't know since you stopped watching after the blocked punt.

The game was Sunday I watched the whole game SMH I have NFL Sunday ticket. I stopped watching last nite the replay I was watching on my firestick NFL archive. I watched the first three quarters to see what the offensive play calls were which I wrote out in this thread..there was no reason to watch after that LAST NITE cause we all know after the punt and being down 21-0 they went no huddle
 

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As for the audibles, it's alot tougher on the road with the noise and a back up center. Hell look at how many times Johnson looked totally lost out there even coming out of the huddle
 
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