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Would you be happy with Gregory at pick #22?

I want Gregory. You guys are not factoring in the Tomlin effect, where he brings the best out of players through consistent coaching, expectations, and discipline. Neither are you factoring the Pittsburgh Steeler effect, where just being in the organization and locker room transforms rookies into serious professionals because that's what Pittsburgh Steeler players do.

Wait, sorry, that **** doesn't exist anymore here. Go to New England to see that **** in action.

Huh?????????
 
If the rumors are true it's just too bad for Gregory. If the Steelers go in another direction instead of Gregory I'd like Bud Dupree of Kentucky or Malcolm Brown from Texas the big NT!

I hate this stuff. So and so has a problem, but we can't tell you what it is. Okay, I'll play detective.

1 ) Whatever problem he might have did not prevent him from standing out on the field.

2 ) There is a chance Gregory might be Anorexic. It would explain his lower weight.
 
I hate this stuff. So and so has a problem, but we can't tell you what it is. Okay, I'll play detective.

1 ) Whatever problem he might have did not prevent him from standing out on the field.

2 ) There is a chance Gregory might be Anorexic. It would explain his lower weight.

maybe he doesn't love the game (Worilds part Deux)
 
It's all in the fit (that's what she said) Dupree fits us Gregory not so much... But then again he could... If he worked hard he could be a great "lineback" a guy who could blitz set the edge and cover tight ends. Give butler a year or two with him Ya. But not sure he has work ethic or we have the time.
 
His off the field stuff is what I have been saying all along - he appears to be a pot addict or damn close to it. Sure, many, if not most, in the NFL light one up here and there but he even stated he had a problem quitting just a few months ago. That is not just recreational use. The NFL does and will always (even if pot becomes legal) not allow pot smoking just as they do with alcohol. I can see this dude being drafted in the first round and toking it up before and during camp and getting busted right off the bat. That is just the vibe I get from reading all of this stuff about him and Tibs post just solidified my gut feeling on him. No matter who we take in the 1st round, I hope he is a gamer and turns out great. The risk with Gregory is just way too high for my liking.

Marijuana is not an addictive drug, lmfao.
 
I suspect he has mental health issues which is why the repeated drug use. That would scare teams away from him and have them not talk about it. A bad knee can be fixed or the guy goes into another field, mental health issues can stay with someone for life and are serious enough to deny someone the chance to serve in the military and their second amendment rights but not the right to vote go figure.
 
This dud3 will be arrested again soon. I also think it's highly possible that dipshit Winston will be arrested again before he ever throws a regular season pass. The dude it a total ******* idiot.
 
This dud3 will be arrested again soon. I also think it's highly possible that dipshit Winston will be arrested again before he ever throws a regular season pass. The dude it a total ******* idiot.

The way Dez and Rolando both continued to **** up in Dallas?
 
Marijuana is not an addictive drug, lmfao.

It is not physically addictive in the way some other drugs can me. However, it is addictive to a portion of the population that is susceptible.

Similar to alcohol - I am not addicted to it but I have had multiple family member that have struggled with alcohol addiction.
 
It is not physically addictive in the way some other drugs can me. However, it is addictive to a portion of the population that is susceptible.

Similar to alcohol - I am not addicted to it but I have had multiple family member that have struggled with alcohol addiction.

Alcohol is a physically addictive drug, marijuana is not. Anyone that claims to be addicted to pot is mentally dependent on it, not addicted.


He played exceptionally well last season, is appealing that fine, and has been resigned. My point was that he has not been in trouble with the law and neither has Dez, save for the "pants too low in the mall" bullshit (I hate Dez, but come the **** on, lmao).

Edit: Dez also had an incident where he pushed his mom during an argument with his half brother. That I had not heard about.
 
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Alcohol is a physically addictive drug, marijuana is not. Anyone that claims to be addicted to pot is mentally dependent on it, not addicted.



He played exceptionally well last season, is appealing that fine, and has been resigned. My point was that he has not been in trouble with the law and neither has Dez, save for the "pants too low in the mall" bullshit (I hate Dez, but come the **** on, lmao).

Edit: Dez also had an incident where he pushed his mom during an argument with his half brother. That I had not heard about.


McClain was signed to a one year deal. Not exactly a rousing endorsement. Since his on field play warranted a more lucrative and longer extension, the issue must reside somewhere else.

The Cowboys were reluctant to sign Dez to a long-term contract because of his off the filed issues. The cops have been called to his house numerous times. They still have not signed him to a long-term contract.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24792475/report-cowboys-hesitant-about-dez-bryant-contract-due-to-off-field-issues

I'm not saying that neither have thrived on the field. Or that neither have exceeded expectations off the field. Only that there still appear to be concerns about both when it comes to the off the field issues.
 
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McClain was signed to a one year deal. Not exactly a rousing endorsement. Since his on field play warranted a more lucrative and longer extension, the issue must reside somewhere else.

The Cowboys were reluctant to sign Dez to a long-term contract because of his off the filed issues. The cops have been called to his house numerous times. They still have not signed him to a long-term contract.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24792475/report-cowboys-hesitant-about-dez-bryant-contract-due-to-off-field-issues

Maybe the fact that he had multiple concussions last year that held him out of games? For having a penchant for getting into trouble, he's avoided it in Dallas.

In the same article you posted they mentioned:
NFL.com also added that the Cowboys did make Bryant a 10-year, $114 million offer, however, negotiations didn't go anywhere because only $20 million of the contract was guaranteed.



Sorry, but the media loves to manufacture stories like this where a team is "down" on a player through pure speculation.
 
Maybe the fact that he had multiple concussions last year that held him out of games? For having a penchant for getting into trouble, he's avoided it in Dallas.

In the same article you posted they mentioned:


Sorry, but the media loves to manufacture stories like this where a team is "down" on a player through pure speculation.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't know if I'd call having the cops sent to your house six times staying out of trouble. I guess we can leave out the incident in the Walmart parking lot since the girl said that the guy who dragged her around wasn't Bryant, but was some guy that nobody in Dallas has ever heard of, even though he was driving Dez's car.

For a guy who has avoided trouble so well in Dallas, he sure seems to have a lot of contact with the police.
 
It is not physically addictive in the way some other drugs can me. However, it is addictive to a portion of the population that is susceptible.

Similar to alcohol - I am not addicted to it but I have had multiple family member that have struggled with alcohol addiction.

I agree. I've seen several people (less than 10 and more than zero) ruin their livelihoods because they wanted to continue smoking weed. So, while not physically addictive, I don't know how else you would describe it if you are willing to give up your job and any future prospects in that industry just to be able to smoke weed.
 
I agree. I've seen several people (less than 10 and more than zero) ruin their livelihoods because they wanted to continue smoking weed. So, while not physically addictive, I don't know how else you would describe it if you are willing to give up your job and any future prospects in that industry just to be able to smoke weed.

I think that's called being a slacker. They throw their lives through the window for smoking weed, come on, it isn't crack or heroin. That's a complete lack of willpower to overcome a thing that is less addictive than coffee
 
I think that's called being a slacker. They throw their lives through the window for smoking weed, come on, it isn't crack or heroin. That's a complete lack of willpower to overcome a thing that is less addictive than coffee

I haven't seen the studies but I know too many people that are wall flowers simply because of weed. My wife's son, who still lives in California, won't do anything but smoke weed. He lives with a bunch of other pot heads. They do nothing but smoke weed and eat. I've never seen anyone sit around and drink coffee all day with a bunch of other coffee drinkers that won't work. There is more to weed than caffeine. If there weren't people wouldn't stop living to smoke it.
 
I haven't seen the studies but I know too many people that are wall flowers simply because of weed. My wife's son, who still lives in California, won't do anything but smoke weed. He lives with a bunch of other pot heads. They do nothing but smoke weed and eat. I've never seen anyone sit around and drink coffee all day with a bunch of other coffee drinkers that won't work. There is more to weed than caffeine. If there weren't people wouldn't stop living to smoke it.

Lazy spoiled generation maybe?
 
Chico, regarding Randy Gregory...
I'm not worried about his weight or his addiction to weed. IMO he seems to have put it past him!

He failed a drug test BEFORE THE COMBINE!

One of the most important days of his professional life, and he couldn't stay clean?

How exactly has he "put his addiction behind him?" It would seem he is completely in the grips of his addiction. So much so that it's cost him somewhere in the zone of a million or more dollars in his draft position.

Consider that. The guy couldn't give up pot for a couple months and because of it he lost millions. And you think he's got CONTROL? Ok.

Zack, I think you misunderstand addiction.

There is physiological and psychological addiction. I think if you were willing to visit a drug and alcohol counselor about your use of marijuana he or she would be more than happy to explain to you the addictive properties of marijuana and even help you determine whether or not you were at risk of abuse yourself.

The problem with pot is that the active components linger in fat cells for a very long time. So even if you don't use regularly, remnants from your last usage remain. So when you do use again, you "reload" and increase the amount stored in those fat cells. If you use regularly enough, well... you can build up quite a store of those active chemicals. You can maintain a low-level of chemical balance in your system that you arent' even aware of.

Most people don't realize that about pot. That's why they can get great samples from your hair etc. for as long as a month after use.
 
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Chico, regarding Randy Gregory...


He failed a drug test BEFORE THE COMBINE!

One of the most important days of his professional life, and he couldn't stay clean?

How exactly has he "put his addiction behind him?" It would seem he is completely in the grips of his addiction. So much so that it's cost him somewhere in the zone of a million or more dollars in his draft position.

Consider that. The guy couldn't give up pot for a couple months and because of it he lost millions. And you think he's got CONTROL? Ok.

Even Gregory himself will tell you that he doesn't have it under control. That's why his agents wanted him to go to a team that was capable / willing to babysit him 24 / 7 / 365.

Chico is so intoxicated with this guy that he can't see what's up or down.
 
Some of the analysts over the weekend insinuated that he might be "mentally ill". Do you want that possibility on
your football team?
 
This guy made me think of the second coming of Jarvis Jones if you disregard the baggage. At 235lbs he is likely too small to play against the bigger and better linemen in the NFL. There were other reports of him being under that weight which would not help him much. In looking at his sparq scores he is only 1 tenth of a point above Chickillo and way behind Alvin. Both of the other guys are in the 270lb range. You add in this guys baggage and there is no way he is worth the draft pick. I don't want the guy on the team as a free agent he just reeks of trouble.
 
I really hope that comment is chock full of sarcasm. If not, WTF?

I could say the same for you, lol.

I agree. I've seen several people (less than 10 and more than zero) ruin their livelihoods because they wanted to continue smoking weed. So, while not physically addictive, I don't know how else you would describe it if you are willing to give up your job and any future prospects in that industry just to be able to smoke weed.

Litos covered it:
I think that's called being a slacker. They throw their lives through the window for smoking weed, come on, it isn't crack or heroin. That's a complete lack of willpower to overcome a thing that is less addictive than coffee



Zack, I think you misunderstand addiction.

There is physiological and psychological addiction. I think if you were willing to visit a drug and alcohol counselor about your use of marijuana he or she would be more than happy to explain to you the addictive properties of marijuana and even help you determine whether or not you were at risk of abuse yourself.

The problem with pot is that the active components linger in fat cells for a very long time. So even if you don't use regularly, remnants from your last usage remain. So when you do use again, you "reload" and increase the amount stored in those fat cells. If you use regularly enough, well... you can build up quite a store of those active chemicals. You can maintain a low-level of chemical balance in your system that you arent' even aware of.

Most people don't realize that about pot. That's why they can get great samples from your hair etc. for as long as a month after use.

I understand it perfectly well, as a daily pot smoker that has up and quit for months at a time cold turkey. We switched to a vaporizer a couple years ago so it's healthier for our lungs and it conserves the product. But to give you an idea, we go through a 1/4-1/2 ounce a week even with the vape. On our weekends off we will smoke pretty much the entire day and on workdays we smoke a few times a night. IF marijuana were addictive, we'd have surely gone through some sort of withdrawal over the multiple times we've quit. In fact, I'm looking for a new job and am on day 5 of cold turkey without incident. When I got my factory job in 2013 where they do a hair follicle test, I quit cold turkey for 6 months. Oh, and the hair tests can detect up to 3 months, not just 1.

Mental dependance =/= addiction. If you're in a susceptible mental state (clinical depression, anxiety, et cetera), you're at a higher risk of becoming dependent on it, but this dependance is no different than someone that is "addicted" to eating themselves into oblivion. They won't go into withdrawal if they stop eating 5,000 empty calories a day, but they feel like they are incapable of stopping. Another analogous situation: hoarding. My mother was/is a hoarder (I don't have contact with her anymore) and she claimed she was unable to stop, unable to get rid of anything, addicted to purchasing crap. It's a mental dependance on something you feel you can't give up.

As to THC being stored in fat cells, yes this is true, but that doesn't mean that THC is an addictive substance. It's highly fat soluble and will be released into the blood stream as fat is metabolized and be passed through urine/sweat, which can cause you to fail a urine test if you're not careful. I'm not sure why you brought this up, as the THC stored in fat cells isn't getting anyone high when it's sitting there or being passed, lol. If that were true I'd be getting ******* stoned while lifting 4 days a week as a heavy user for many years.
 
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Uh, OK. It is a lack of willpower, but these same people have enough will power to not be alcoholics. Believe what you want. I know what I have seen with my own eyes. It's not like I've never seen addicts, before.
 
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