Covid Vaccine

[Stewey]

Flog logic. Guess I'm just too damn old to make memes that convey specifically what needs to be said, but tell me this doesn't apply.

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I liken that picture to trying to debate a liberal.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

While snooping over on the Brown Board I found this Browns fans story:


Posted 14 hours ago
https://ground.news/article/in-a-fi...nkinbio-groundnews&utm_content=later-42748226

I personally ended up taking both shots of Pfizer vaccine but I imagine we are going to see more of this sort of thing. My wife is a VA nurse and they had a crazy high number of vets who visited the Covid clinic come back with blood clots and myocarditis. None of the guys had previously had clotting or cardiac conditions. It made her scared enough to go out and get an exemption for work.

China has an aging population and a commie system that has to pay for non-productive people. They lost a lot of old people. Here in the west, a bunch of people on government benefits (old or sick) are dying off. A conspiracy minded person might think everything worked like a charm.

 

[Confluence]

China has an aging population and a commie system that has to pay for non-productive people. They lost a lot of old people. Here in the west, a bunch of people on government benefits (old or sick) are dying off. A conspiracy minded person might think everything worked like a charm.

A conspiracy person might say that phase 1 was successful and then point to the bird flu variants

 

[Troglodyte]

You really, genuinely are this dumb, aren't you?

Guess how every doctor in every nation over the past 200 years obtains information about symptoms, effects, physical status, mental status, and change in health? Go ahead, I'll wait ...

Naah, you're too dumb for me to wait so let me explain: Doctors get their information about what a patient is feeling from ... hold on for this ... THE PATIENT!

"wHuT AbOuT KatMrI sKaNz, HuH?"

Know why the doctor takes a CT scan or MRI of the heart, or the brain, or the liver, or the colon? Based on what the patient says is bothering him!!

Don't take my word on it? Okay, how about the National Library of Medicine:



Reference Source for Dr. Flogstain von Booster Regarding Medicine

The "patient's history and pathophysiology" is what the patient tells the doctor about his condition.

Idiot.

😂 Dude! We are talking about… DEJA VU!

Go visit your PCP and say you’re experiencing deja vu and see if it turns out to be a giant ******* waste of everyone’s time… just like many other doctors visits. Patients are often convinced there’s something wrong with their health when there isn’t. Vaccine recipients are no exception.

I’ll ask you the question nobody else will answer: Do you really think the Covid vaccine killed people 1,223 different ways?

 

[Troglodyte]

Dear God, help this poor soul.

I have said there are 1300 (give or take) reported side effects of the vaccines. You fact checked it with bullshit. I showed the Pfizer legally-submitted FDA document that outlines 'confirmed' side effects they themselves reported to the FDA.

You want to say I've said they are definitive and just dance around the fact that when I say there are 1300 or so known side effects...there are. Reported by the manufacturer itself.

So they’re confirmed, but not definitive? 🤔

You’ve done it again. You’ve argued to the point where you don’t even know what it is you’re arguing anymore other than “VACCINES BAD!”

 

[Troglodyte]

You have now in 2 pages managed to claim I've said something I've not said again about 14 times.

Show where I used deja vu to validate anything. Go on now.

You referred to POSSIBLE AEs, without acknowledging they are ONLY POSSIBLE AEs, provided by Pfizer, to argue that the vaccines are… I don’t know… the worst thing ever. One of those AEs was Deja Vu.

You should be a lot more skeptical about the validity of what you read on social media.

 

[Sarge]

I’ll ask you the question nobody else will answer: Do you really think the Covid vaccine killed people 1,223 different ways?

Of course not. Side effects do not equal death necessarily. 1,223 side effects (if thats truly how many there are) seems like a lot though. In fairness, there’s not a medicine being pedaled right now that doesn’t have at least several side effects, one of which seems to always be death.

I don’t know if the Covid vaccine is killing people or not. Just wish the companies and the government would be more transparent and honest about the risks, rather than saying “Oh it’s completely safe. Take the vaccine and you won’t get sick or pass it on to anyone else.” They knew that was bollocks, but they kept saying it anyway.

On top of that they wanted to keep all the information about that shot sealed for 75 years. Nothing suspicious about that at all. Kinda like how they kept the Kennedy assassination records sealed until anyone involved is dead.

 

[Superman]

China has an aging population and a commie system that has to pay for non-productive people. They lost a lot of old people. Here in the west, a bunch of people on government benefits (old or sick) are dying off. A conspiracy minded person might think everything worked like a charm.

well, Conspiracy @wig won't enter this thread.

 

[Superman]

😂 Dude! We are talking about… DEJA VU!

Go visit your PCP and say you’re experiencing deja vu and see if it turns out to be a giant ******* waste of everyone’s time… just like many other doctors visits. Patients are often convinced there’s something wrong with their health when there isn’t. Vaccine recipients are no exception.

I’ll ask you the question nobody else will answer: Do you really think the Covid vaccine killed people 1,223 different ways?

interesting. so back when we were saying that a guy who died on a motorcycle or in a car wreck or from being obese and not dragging a dead dog around a golf course at noon on Friday did in fact NOT die from Covid, even though it was listed as a contributor on his death certificate, YOU were there to tell us he 100% matter of factly DID die from the vid. We denied it. You pushed back (recurring theme for you on the board and in private life) and here we are, with you finally coming around.

 

[Troglodyte]

interesting. so back when we were saying that a guy who died on a motorcycle or in a car wreck or from being obese and not dragging a dead dog around a golf course at noon on Friday did in fact NOT die from Covid, even though it was listed as a contributor on his death certificate, YOU were there to tell us he 100% matter of factly DID die from the vid. We denied it. You pushed back (recurring theme for you on the board and in private life) and here we are, with you finally coming around.

😂 The “nobody died from Covid, they died with Covid” coincidence has now turned into “no vaccinated person dies from anything other than one of the 1,223 fatal side effects of the vaccine”.

When it’s political for you, you can make sense of anything.

 

[Superman]

😂 The “nobody died from Covid, they died with Covid” coincidence has now turned into “no vaccinated person dies from anything other than one of the 1,223 fatal side effects of the vaccine”.

When it’s political for you, you can make sense of anything.

you're such an inane, ignorant ***.
i said nothing of the like.

We pointed out that a guy dying from being killed on a motorcycle accident had Covid listed as a cause of death. You refused to believe that he died from being crushed and ran over by a semi. "WuZ DaVid!"

choke on the cashews in my ****, you fuckup

 

[Troglodyte]

you're such an inane, ignorant ***.
i said nothing of the like.

We pointed out that a guy dying from being killed on a motorcycle accident had Covid listed as a cause of death. You refused to believe that he died from being crushed and ran over by a semi. "WuZ DaVid!"

choke on the cashews in my ****, you fuckup

How many motorcyclist were killed in an accident while they had Covid and erroneously included in the Covid death count? So many that it was at all relevant? Yeah, didn’t think so.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

While snooping over on the Browns Board I found this story from a Browns fan.


Posted 14 hours ago
https://ground.news/article/in-a-fi...nkinbio-groundnews&utm_content=later-42748226

I personally ended up taking both shots of Pfizer vaccine but I imagine we are going to see more of this sort of thing. My wife is a VA nurse and they had a crazy high number of vets who visited the Covid clinic come back with blood clots and myocarditis. None of the guys had previously had clotting or cardiac conditions. It made her scared enough to go out and get an exemption for work.

Unpossible! No one else be talking about this.

 

[Superman]

Yeah, didn’t think ...

sums up every one of your posts, while glossing over the speculations we (not you) had back when this was original that are now coming to light.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Of course not. Side effects do not equal death necessarily. 1,223 side effects (if thats truly how many there are) seems like a lot though. In fairness, there’s not a medicine being pedaled right now that doesn’t have at least several side effects, one of which seems to always be death.

I don’t know if the Covid vaccine is killing people or not. Just wish the companies and the government would be more transparent and honest about the risks, rather than saying “Oh it’s completely safe. Take the vaccine and you won’t get sick or pass it on to anyone else.” They knew that was bollocks, but they kept saying it anyway.

On top of that they wanted to keep all the information about that shot sealed for 75 years. Nothing suspicious about that at all. Kinda like how they kept the Kennedy assassination records sealed until anyone involved is dead.

This is what I don't understand on how some people rationalize their thought patterns. When I was young, 50 years or so ago, those that followed the Democratic party constantly said to question authority, the bumper stickers were everywhere. Now, they appear to be proponents of don't question anything, as long as their side agrees with the opinion or policy. Makes no sense to me.

Your example of the mRNA product being safe and effective is a perfect example.
Right up there with if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

BTW, there has never been any medicine produced that didn't have side effects. Everyone, including this product, it's always a question of risk/benefit. Those that refuse to admit that are blindly naive at best, or helplessly swayed and influenced by those that they chose not to question. Seems dumb to me, but who am I to judge?

 

[Badcat]

This is what I don't understand on how some people rationalize their thought patterns. When I was young, 50 years or so ago, those that followed the Democratic party constantly said to question authority, the bumper stickers were everywhere. Now, they appear to be proponents of don't question anything, as long as their side agrees with the opinion or policy. Makes no sense to me.

Your example of the mRNA product being safe and effective is a perfect example.
Right up there with if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

BTW, there has never been any medicine produced that didn't have side effects. Everyone, including this product, it's always a question of risk/benefit. Those that refuse to admit that are blindly naive at best, or helplessly swayed and influenced by those that they chose not to question. Seems dumb to me, but who am I to judge?

Doctor's today are essentially drug dealers. I forgot to take my blood pressure medicine before a morning DR Appt, The doc comes in and immediately goes into a rant on upping my dosage and giving me two more meds. Holy ****, ask me if I took my medication or try to find out if there is a reason why it's so high in the AM before jumping on the pill wagon!

 

[Stewey]

Of course not. Side effects do not equal death necessarily. 1,223 side effects (if thats truly how many there are) seems like a lot though. In fairness, there’s not a medicine being pedaled right now that doesn’t have at least several side effects, one of which seems to always be death.

I don’t know if the Covid vaccine is killing people or not. Just wish the companies and the government would be more transparent and honest about the risks, rather than saying “Oh it’s completely safe. Take the vaccine and you won’t get sick or pass it on to anyone else.” They knew that was bollocks, but they kept saying it anyway.

On top of that they wanted to keep all the information about that shot sealed for 75 years. Nothing suspicious about that at all. Kinda like how they kept the Kennedy assassination records sealed until anyone involved is dead.

Good point. Like those TV ads that sell pharmaceuticals, which are required to disclose the side effects no matter how rare or unlikely they would occur.
And holy **** are there ever side affects. Half the commercial time is just listing all of them. lol

They should do that with COVID vaccines. But I bet that it if were disclosed that the vaccine neither prevents you from getting COVID or from transmitting it, the pharma companies would be out of business as it pertains to the vaccine. I bet most of the population doesn't know it doesn't prevent a person from contracting it.
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[JMM]

Good point. Like those TV ads that sell pharmaceuticals, which are required to disclose the side effects no matter how rare or unlikely they would occur.
And holy **** are there ever side affects. Half the commercial time is just listing all of them. lol

They should do that with COVID vaccines. But I bet that it if were disclosed that the vaccine neither prevents you from getting COVID or from transmitting it, the pharma companies would be out of business as it pertains to the vaccine. I bet most of the population doesn't know it doesn't prevent a person from contracting it.
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Wish we could go back to the days that drugs couldn't be advertised on TV and radio. Hell now we're seeing pet drug commercials. Must be really tough to be a hypochondriac. They must be in the doctor's office every couple days.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So they’re confirmed, but not definitive? 🤔

You’ve done it again. You’ve argued to the point where you don’t even know what it is you’re arguing anymore other than “VACCINES BAD!”

I'll repeat, you and the English language are not very good friends. And your ability to read and interpret the very data you share simply doesn't exist.

Pfizer confirmed, in their own words, their own writing all of those side effects were reported.
As well, in their own words, in their own document, they provided MEDICALLY CONFIRMED documented cases. I'd say 'those' are definitive.

What's next, you're gonna say Pfizer lied about these medically confirmed reports table after table, page after page?

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Wish we could go back to the days that drugs couldn't be advertised on TV and radio. Hell now we're seeing pet drug commercials. Must be really tough to be a hypochondriac. They must be in the doctor's office every couple days.

That they are, or were, in my case. I'd see the same dozen or so people every single day.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You referred to POSSIBLE AEs, without acknowledging they are ONLY POSSIBLE AEs, provided by Pfizer, to argue that the vaccines are… I don’t know… the worst thing ever. One of those AEs was Deja Vu.

You should be a lot more skeptical about the validity of what you read on social media.

I asked you to prove where I used deja vu to validate anything. You can't.

Pfizer pointed you to CONFIRMED and reported AEs. We are sharing their data. You are denying the data from the pharmas so you deeply worship.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Doctor's today are essentially drug dealers. I forgot to take my blood pressure medicine before a morning DR Appt, The doc comes in and immediately goes into a rant on upping my dosage and giving me two more meds. Holy ****, ask me if I took my medication or try to find out if there is a reason why it's so high in the AM before jumping on the pill wagon!

Speaking of doctors, I saw my PCP again Wednesday. 6 month check up. Focused on my BP which used to be too high. My 3 years of working out and a better diet and Amlodopine have it in control. I actually had been tracking it for 2 weeks up until the appointment. Have my own BP monitor. BP systolic averaged in the high 120s to 130s. I was prepared for him to up the dosage. He said hell no, these readings are great. I said I thought I needed to be like 120 over 70. He said that's too low. BP guidance has changed. At those levels you'll have fatigue, possible light headedness, etc. He said, really, you're fine.

We covered my asthma, meds, etc and etc.

Know what he didn't ask about, again (this being my 8th appointment with him in 3 years)? Did you get the Covid vaccine, or will you get the Covid vaccine?

Floggy wants the digits.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Well I'll be damned, even the crooked New York Times is now reporting about vaccine injuries.

Thousands Believe Covid Vaccines Harmed Them. Is Anyone Listening?​

As of April, just over 13,000 vaccine-injury compensation claims have been filed with the federal government — but to little avail. Only 19 percent have been reviewed. Only 47 of those were deemed eligible for compensation, and only 12 have been paid out, at an average of about $3,600.

“At least long Covid has been somewhat recognized,” said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist and vaccine expert at Yale University. But people who say they have post-vaccination injuries are “just completely ignored and dismissed and gaslighted,” she added.

But in a recent interview, Dr. Janet Woodcock, a longtime leader of the Food and Drug Administration, who retired in February, said she believed that some recipients had experienced uncommon but “serious” and “life-changing” reactions beyond those described by federal agencies.
“I feel bad for those people,” said Dr. Woodcock, who became the F.D.A.’s acting commissioner in January 2021 as the vaccines were rolling out. “I believe their suffering should be acknowledged, that they have real problems, and they should be taken seriously.”
“I’m disappointed in myself,” she added. “I did a lot of things I feel very good about, but this is one of the few things I feel I just didn’t bring it home.”

i.e., vaccine injuries are severely under-reported:

Federal officials and independent scientists face a number of challenges in identifying potential vaccine side effects.
The nation’s fragmented health care system complicates detection of very rare side effects, a process that depends on an analysis of huge amounts of data. That’s a difficult task when a patient may be tested for Covid at Walgreens, get vaccinated at CVS, go to a local clinic for minor ailments and seek care at a hospital for serious conditions. Each place may rely on different health record systems.
There is no central repository of vaccine recipients, nor of medical records, and no easy to way to pool these data. Reports to the largest federal database of so-called adverse events can be made by anyone, about anything. It’s not even clear what officials should be looking for.

But there are gaps, some experts noted. The Covid shots administered at mass vaccination sites were not recorded in insurance claims databases, for example, and medical records in the United States are not centralized.
“It’s harder to see signals when you have so many people, and things are happening in different parts of the country, and they’re not all collected in the same system,” said Rebecca Chandler, a vaccine safety expert at the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations.
An expert panel convened by the National Academies concluded in April that for the vast majority of side effects, there was not enough data to accept or reject a link.

But the National Institutes of Health is conducting virtually no studies on Covid vaccine safety, several experts noted. William Murphy, a cancer researcher who worked at the N.I.H. for 12 years, has been prodding federal health officials to initiate these studies since 2021.
The officials each responded with “that very tired mantra: ‘But the virus is worse,’” Dr. Murphy recalled. “Yes, the virus is worse, but that doesn’t obviate doing research to make sure that there may be other options.”

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Yep.

New Study | Covid mRNA vaccines aid cancer development.

Abstract​

Due to the health emergency created by SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the COVID-19 disease, the rapid implementation of a new vaccine technology was necessary. mRNA vaccines, being one of the cutting-edge new technologies, attracted significant interest and offered a lot of hope. The potential of these vaccines in preventing admission to hospitals and serious illness in people with comorbidities has recently been called into question due to the vaccines' rapidly waning immunity. Mounting evidence indicates that these vaccines, like many others, do not generate sterilizing immunity, leaving people vulnerable to recurrent infections. Additionally, it has been discovered that the mRNA vaccines inhibit essential immunological pathways, thus impairing early interferon signaling. Within the framework of COVID-19 vaccination, this inhibition ensures an appropriate spike protein synthesis and a reduced immune activation. Evidence is provided that adding 100 % of N1-methyl-pseudouridine (m1Ψ) to the mRNA vaccine in a melanoma model stimulated cancer growth and metastasis, while non-modified mRNA vaccines induced opposite results, thus suggesting that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines could aid cancer development. Based on this compelling evidence, we suggest that future clinical trials for cancers or infectious diseases should not use mRNA vaccines with a 100 % m1Ψ modification, but rather ones with the lower percentage of m1Ψ modification to avoid immune suppression.

 

[Superman]

Brief timeline of the Vid:

• Trump warns of it during SOTU
• Pelosi rips up the speech afterwards
• People begin getting sick
• Dizeez be spread faster than Muzzies on a goat farm
• Reaches our shores
• More people get sick
• Operation Warp Speed is began - to find a vaccine or cure
• the entire Left screeches they aint be gonna take it if Trump says take it
• vaccine is rolled out
• stabby stab is given away like candy out of a white van
• questions arise as to how a vaccine can be a one-shot prevention for every single person on the planet, despite any medical history
• Dizeez continues to spread
• the Left seizes a moment to push for Idiocracy level ignorance on the population
• arrows are put down in supermarkets, since this ultra contagious virus ONLY goes one direction
• mail-in voting is decried as the savior of democracy and humanity
• People begin getting sick AFTER taking the holy shot
• Booster rolled out
• People line up to get boosters
• Some begin to refuse boosters
• More question the effectiveness and risk from the holiest shot sent down from Mt Sinai by God himself
• Dizeez continues to spread faster than the future VP could spread for Montel Williams
• Senile predator pedo is installed as POTUS after sham election
• World laughs
• People continue to get sick even after multiple boosters
• Left assures us, all is well - get your shot - stop the dizeez
• Grannies die alone in nursing homes
• People die alone in hospitals
• More boosters rolled out due to more variants
• More people begin to question the jabby jab - those who have and have not been stabbed
• Predator Pedo advises the scamdemic is over, you can go about your life
• Suddenly people just stop dying from the most evil virus to ever hatch from a skillet where pangolin was cooked
• Questions remain
• the left mocks those who point out their initial concerns were proven correct
• the left pviots and claims those concerns were their own