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18 million dollars a season for Suh. They never learn. That is Albert Haynesworth waiting to happen AGAIN. You can pay 3 guys 6 million dollars a year for that one guy. That is three GOOD players. If Suh was so good, how come they never did anything with him, Megatron, Stafford etc? Even if he plays great there is no way he can possibly play to that kind of money. That is top end QB money. The guy who touches the ball every offensive play and is directly responsible for the outcome of the play on more than half of the offensive snaps. As soon as you pay beyond what the position can possibly accomplish, you are dumber than the average fan.
 
JJ Watt gets that type of money and the Texans haven't done crap. Doesn't mean he isn't living up to his contract.
 
What do you expect when the group of GM's and coaches hired and fired each year is pretty much musical chairs?

The NFL is grossly lacking in any kind of vision or outside consultation of their work methods. If any publically traded company was run like most NFL franchises, they would be bankrupt in 5 years. The crop of GM's is mostly undereducated, average IQ's, ex-jocks that couldn't coach well and became recluse scouts that lived tough jobs on the road that don't nurture or teach MOST of what is actually required to run an NFL franchise or understand basic resource management thinking for a billion dollar business.

Nothing about being a scout teaches you big picture or future thinking. To scouts it's always black or white. Scouts don't plan ahead. Scouts don't consider cost factors. To them Player A is better than Player B and that's it.

As long as glorified scouts are running NFL franchises and whispering in owners' ears how they know for certain (when nothing is certain) Player X is the greatest thing since sliced bread, these types of resource usage blunders are going to continue to happen over and over and over again.
 
He CAN"T play up to his contract. It is impossible. It is simple math. You are paying for tackles, sacks, pressures and run control. You cannot pay someone who is 15-20% better 3 times as much.
 
SteelerSask said:
18 million dollars a season for Suh. They never learn.
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Keep in mind these are loser franchises like the Miami. They're too stupid not to throw around absurd amounts of FA money like that.
 
Well they clearly didn't learn anything from the Wallace debacle. And don't get your panties knotted about Suh not being Wallace. Its the same thing. You can't pay for a guy who is 15% better three times over.
 
But this image is worth 18 million dollars


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It also might be something else than performance like jersey sells.
Also that is Not a top QB contract, at least 25 millions a year would be.
 
It's essentially an auction for something rare, so the price gets escalated. The problem is the item in this auction eventually loses it's value. But it is amazing how this scenario repeats itself.
 
One interior defensive lineman taking up over 12% of the cap on average. Stupid.
 
If I'm Detroit I go and spend the 17 million on three defensive starters Tuesday and laugh how stupid I almost was.
 
I'm glad we're not overpaying players like this. Like SteelerSask was saying, you could get 3 good players or even two very good players for that price. No way you pay a defensive player that kind of money in this league and especially not someone who is close to getting suspended at any second.
 
And then as far as Lynch goes with his second feigned retirement in two years, I'd have signed a free agent running back for 6 or 7 per and told him there is your 5 million extra. Play for the agreed money or quit. I don't give a ****. We will draft a rookie running back in the first round and pay him 1.5 million for the next three years.
 
SteelerSask said:
And then as far as Lynch goes with his second feigned retirement in two years, I'd have signed a free agent running back for 6 or 7 per and told him there is your 5 million extra. Play for the agreed money or quit. I don't give a ****. We will draft a rookie running back in the first round and pay him 1.5 million for the next three years.
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Yeah and you could have the next Trent Richardson for the next three years.
 
Or the next bell. If him and Bell perform the same way next year you would pay about 1000 dollars per yard for bell and about 10000 per yard for Lynch. Likewise, The Hawks paid about 600 per passing yard for Wilson and the Steelers paid about 2400 which is why the Hawks defense was littered with 6 and 7 million dollar guys and the Steelers had ****.
 
deljzc said:
What do you expect when the group of GM's and coaches hired and fired each year is pretty much musical chairs?

The NFL is grossly lacking in any kind of vision or outside consultation of their work methods. If any publically traded company was run like most NFL franchises, they would be bankrupt in 5 years. The crop of GM's is mostly undereducated, average IQ's, ex-jocks that couldn't coach well and became recluse scouts that lived tough jobs on the road that don't nurture or teach MOST of what is actually required to run an NFL franchise or understand basic resource management thinking for a billion dollar business.

Nothing about being a scout teaches you big picture or future thinking. To scouts it's always black or white. Scouts don't plan ahead. Scouts don't consider cost factors. To them Player A is better than Player B and that's it.

As long as glorified scouts are running NFL franchises and whispering in owners' ears how they know for certain (when nothing is certain) Player X is the greatest thing since sliced bread, these types of resource usage blunders are going to continue to happen over and over and over again.
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And yet, stadiums still sell out every sunday. Weird!!
 
Any predictions on when Miami tries to trade away or release Suh and his bloated contract? I set the over/under at 2 years.
 
SteelerSask said:
Or the next bell. If him and Bell perform the same way next year you would pay about 1000 dollars per yard for bell and about 10000 per yard for Lynch. Likewise, The Hawks paid about 600 per passing yard for Wilson and the Steelers paid about 2400 which is why the Hawks defense was littered with 6 and 7 million dollar guys and the Steelers had ****.
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Eh, with the cap you just have to pick and choose where you'll be strong. A lot of years the Pats** have a **** defense too but their offense averages almost 40 ppg.

Steelers1356 said:
Any predictions on when Miami tries to trade away or release Suh and his bloated contract? I set the over/under at 2 years.
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I agree, be two years just like Mike Wallace. Paying out crazy money and still 9-7 or 8-8 and no playoffs.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Eh, with the cap you just have to pick and choose where you'll be strong. A lot of years the Pats** have a **** defense too but their offense averages almost 40 ppg.
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That and they can plug WR's in at DB at any time with great results.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Eh, with the cap you just have to pick and choose where you'll be strong. A lot of years the Pats** have a **** defense too but their offense averages almost 40 ppg.



I agree, be two years just like Mike Wallace. Paying out crazy money and still 9-7 or 8-8 and no playoffs.
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True but the Pats made a substantial investment in defense and how did that turn out?
 
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Right, and presumably they let Welker go among other things so they could do that. That's what I'm saying, no team can shore up every area of weakness. You have to pick and choose your spots and hope that your strengths are enough to overcome your weaknesses.
 
What was that team that completely over paid for mike Wallace blowing up the pay scale for number 2 receivers??? Oh Ya... those guys.....
 
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