Where's all my Tomin haters who were talking all that "5 years w/o playoff win" ****

[Litos]

the one on foster was bullshit, at least I didn't see him do anything

 

[Punxsutawney]

Making it a 16 point game forces the Bengals to go for two after their first TD.

I do not think going for two was an absolutely terrible decision, but it probably wasn't the best decision, especially given how good Boswell has been.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

as far as that goes, both teams were poorly coached, but we had 140+ yards I think, more than Cincy even, we had at least three fifteen yarders agasint us off the top of my head and all Three killed great field position

But we were cool when it counted, and they weren't. If we had starting throwing bows when they started ****, the penalties would have been offsetting.

That's good coaching no matter how you slice it, and the Haters need to recognize.

 

[mdk2]

The better team won. We dominated that game for 3 quarters. One of their TDs came off of a PI call and the other was some kind of terrible zone coverage.
The team never gave up and Shazier balled out.. Props to Tomlin for keeping the players focused.
Ben didn't look good at all but found a way to get the ball down the 50 and then the Bungles took over.
Great win!
On to Denver...

 

[Coryea]

But we were cool when it counted, and they weren't. If we had starting throwing bows when they started ****, the penalties would have been offsetting.

That's good coaching no matter how you slice it, and the Haters need to recognize.

Absolutely we kept our cool late and Tomlin gets a lot of credit for that, but my point I'd we can't have 140+ next week

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Absolutely we kept our cool late and Tomlin gets a lot of credit for that, but my point I'd we can't have 140+ next week

Agreed. In our defense, it was COMING DOWN out there. Everybody was having trouble handling the ball, and that's why I think we limited our vertical throws.

Ben and AB's health status will be key. If they're down, we're ****** like Catholic school *****. If they're healthy we already know we can beat Denver. Manning ain't what he used to be and that defense is overrated.

 

[mdk2]

Agreed. In our defense, it was COMING DOWN out there. Everybody was having trouble handling the ball, and that's why I think we limited our vertical throws.

Ben and AB's health status will be key. If they're down, we're ****** like Catholic school *****. If they're healthy we already know we can beat Denver. Manning ain't what he used to be and that defense is overrated.

The biggest thing when playing Manning is that he is a statue back there. If he was playing QB for Bengal tonight we probably would have sacked him 8+ times.
McCaron escaped sacks at least a few times.

 

[madinsomniac]

You could make an argument that being up sixteen would have forced the bengals to go for two on two tds, making it 4 separate scoring plays, or that 17 put it at 3 total scored... neither was clearly wrong, but for how conservative they were all game it was odd to go aggressive that late....


As for the time at the end, with a timeout you run off the time... without the timeout you make sure you get the field goal shot and take your chances with the 10 seconds or so left over.... no problem with that strategy

 

[steelcan58]

"Oh. Tomlin. Oh Tomlin. Give me some more of that awesome coaching baby. You're the best. They should rename the Lombardi after you. You're the best baby. Oh Tomlin Oh Tomlin!"

Happy now? That's what the point of the thread was isn't it you shameless Tomlin *****.

Post is entirely uncalled for. Why stir things up under the circumstances? Something has to be said for Tomlin getting the Steelers off the field immediately after the game. Nothing to be gained by an on field demonstration of any emotion at that point.

 

[SteelerAl]

Foolish decision to have Ben throwing on 3rd-and-18 after that heated sequence when the Bengals would make every effort to hurt him.

Agreed. I was calling for a draw play or screen right there because I was scared of a cheap shot on Ben (don't think the Burfict tackle was a cheap shot but it had the same effect).

 

[SteelerAl]

True, but that is just a good individual play. It doesn't cover that the offense was terrible even with Ben. And i don't think the defensive gameplan was that great either. Many of the stops were because McCarron couldn't throw the wet ball. They had guys open and eventually they did make a few plays and took the lead.

So you agree that the refs made a mistake that prevented us winning a blowout, but then go on to ***** about how everything we did last night sucked balls?

 

[Stryker]

On the 2pt try: perhaps Ben should have walked it in for 2.

 

[Spike]

Fire Tomlin AND Haley, they've ridden his coattails long enough, Ben is winning in spite of them.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

I disagree wholeheartedly, the call was a no brainer, and there really isn't a logical argument to be made that 16 points was better than 15 points at that stage of the game, in fact the only difference in the game was it caused it to be 18-16 instead of 19-17.

16 - 0 is much better than 15 - 0. There really isn't a logical argument to leave a point out there in this game.

 

[blitzburghv5]

Once again, Time is important in the decision. If it's in the 4th quarter, then you go for 2 because it could essentially end the game by making it 3 scores. But going for 2 as early as they did was a mistake because at that point, you had to assume there would be more scoring, by both teams.

It wasn't horrible to go for 2 there but i do think it was a mistake in a game where the score was so low and you were having trouble scoring. I would have taken the more sure thing.

Youre arguing against common sense. Every coach would go for 2 in that instance. The game announcers said although they questioned a couple Tomlins 2pt attempts this season, they said this instance was the right call.

Theres no degrees to right or wrong.......it was the correct decision. In the league with the extra point moved back, there is no automatic extra point. The success rate is like 78%....that's not a guarantee. Our 2pt success is around 72% for the season if you need to compare

 

[Steelerfreak]

I Tomlin was outpaced again tonight, the absolutely stupid decision to go for 2, the stupidity of having Ben throw the ball up 15 on 3rd and 18 against a team that wanted to headhunt him. We won DESPITE Tomlin.

This I will buy.

 

[Steelers1356]

the stupidity of having Ben throw the ball up 15 on 3rd and 18 against a team that wanted to headhunt him. We won DESPITE Tomlin.

Yep, especially in the rain. Gauge the situation, a run and punt gives the ball back to the Bungles probably around their 30 yard line and Ben doesn't get hurt, game then is not even as close. McCarron then has to drive the whole field in poor conditions. I was screaming at the TV before the play to just run the ball and watched in horror as Ben dropped back to pass. He had no chance. The coach has to take control in that situation. We hit a brick wall after that sack and you knew the sack was coming.

 

[topseed]

Actually, I'd say that was all Ben. He should've gotten rid of the ball, even if no one was open, just whip it as far as he could b/c and int is as good as a punt from that spot. Instead he ran right into Burflicshit's arms all on his own. No one to blame but Ben on that play. It seems every time Ben gets hurt its b/c he held onto the ball too long, you think he'd learn by now...

I blame the coaching staff for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-18 after they'd been running the ball most of the night. Run a draw, gain a couple yards, run out the third quarter clock, don't give the other team any momentum with a 12-yard sack on the 5-yard line, don't risk an injury to Ben against an obviously fired-up Bengals defense, and punt the ball back to them from the 20 at the start of the 4th.

Real simple.

 

[bermudasteel]

I blame the coaching staff for calling a pass play on 3rd-and-18 after they'd been running the ball most of the night. Run a draw, gain a couple yards, run out the third quarter clock, don't give the other team any momentum with a 12-yard sack on the 5-yard line, don't risk an injury to Ben against an obviously fired-up Bengals defense, and punt the ball back to them from the 20 at the start of the 4th.

Real simple.

Agreed...

 

[GTDome]

I had no problem with going for 2. Ben threw a bad pass on it. Not Tomlins fault. Hindsight is 20/20. Steelers stopping the Bungles on there 2 point conversion was huge also at the time.

Sadly that's the only kind he can throw in the red zone.

Love the man to death and tried to name my kid after him, but my god does our offense fall apart near the goal line.

 

[topseed]

Yep, especially in the rain. Gauge the situation, a run and punt gives the ball back to the Bungles probably around their 30 yard line and Ben doesn't get hurt, game then is not even as close. McCarron then has to drive the whole field in poor conditions. I was screaming at the TV before the play to just run the ball and watched in horror as Ben dropped back to pass. He had no chance. The coach has to take control in that situation. We hit a brick wall after that sack and you knew the sack was coming.

Spot on. My dad and I were pleading with the TV for them to just run it three times (how many countless situations prior had they run the ball on first AND second down anyway?) and not let the Bengals have a shot at Ben at that point.

Having Ben sacked and lying on the field after getting planted by Burfict not only lost 12 yards and forced a punt from their own end zone, but his subsequent trip to the locker room also totally energized that stadium and handed the Bengals all the momentum they needed to be able to take the lead and almost win the game.

 

[GTDome]

But we were cool when it counted, and they weren't. If we had starting throwing bows when they started ****, the penalties would have been offsetting.

That's good coaching no matter how you slice it, and the Haters need to recognize.

Wait, not getting into a brawl is good coaching?

 

[slashsteel]

****** weather and on the road against a solid D

and they win


I can't really see the complaints

on the Steelers side of things........

refs were the only reason the bungholes were even in the game...

 

[Hobbster]

16 - 0 is much better than 15 - 0. There really isn't a logical argument to leave a point out there in this game.

17-0 is the only option that would have been better, 16-0 and 15-0 and even 14-0 are all potential two possession games. There really isn't a logical argument to not at least try to make it a 3 possession game.

 

[skialta]

I'm right here. Still think he sucks. However I'm willing to give him credit for keeping the players focused and not letting them go apeshit like the other sideline. The argument about going for two makes sense MATHEMATICALLY, but not with that much time left in the game. 5 minutes or later? Yes. Go for two. Going for two with that much time on the clock very very nearly cost them the season.
Kudos to him for keeping his guys relatively cool though.