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Where is the star power?

Badcat said:
Exactly, it's a matter of perception and judgment. You’ll regularly see wide receivers with strong counting stats (targets, yards, TDs) or advanced metrics (EPA per target, yards per route run) sitting in the middle or even bottom tiers of PFF’s positional rankings. Conversely, some low volume WRs grade very highly because they run limited route trees, see favorable matchups, or happen to avoid “negatively graded” plays, which inflates their efficiency in PFF’s lens but doesn’t match their actual role in the offense. This can lead to situations where a team’s clear WR1 by snaps, routes, and defensive attention is ranked behind their WR3 or a rotational gadget player, simply because the latter had fewer opportunities to accumulate negative grades.

If you want to discuss impact of these bullshit stats like TJ being snubbed for DPOY because Garrett had a higher win rate (almost got there), as an example not only impacts performance bonuses, future contracts, and the player's resume as to whether or not they get into the HoF. Now, obviously TJ and Garrett will get in but what about other players who may not be so lucky because some asshat munching on a Ho Ho hopped up on Monster shades a player with his bias and lowers his grading in areas that cascade to other grades and shows him to be no more than a #3 or #4 level WR.
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Watt- 68tkls, 48 solo, 19 sacks, 36 QBHits, 19TFL, 4FF, 8PD's, 3FR, 1INT
Myle- 42tkls, 32 solo, 14 sacks, 30 QBHits, 17TFL, 4FF, 3PD's, 1FR, 0INT

That's alot of almosts for Garrett.
 
Coryea said:
Never said Wilson played better, but people saying how well Rodgers played or how surprised they were, when they had basically the same passer rating, we had the same record, and got smashed in the first playoff game. He didn't do anything special that makes him a must to bring back at a year older. He doesn't move very well, and doesnt want to take a hit anymore so he's throwing the ball in like 2 seconds.
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He's a must to bring back for them in the moment because there was nothing viable in FA and the draft is the *****. And literally at gym. On the TV was best games of the year. Week 18 vs. Ravens which you can call it what you want it was win or go home. Lamar was as healthy as Rodgers and Rodgers was missing his only big target......how did that one turn out....anyone anyone?
 
SteelerSask2 said:
He's a must to bring back for them in the moment because there was nothing viable in FA and the draft is the *****. And literally at gym. On the TV was best games of the year. Week 18 vs. Ravens which you can call it what you want it was win or go home. Lamar was as healthy as Rodgers and Rodgers was missing his only big target......how did that one turn out....anyone anyone?
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So we're moving the goal posts? It wasn't the post season, Lamar had a QB rating of 121, Rodgers had a rating of 90 in that game. Lamar got the ball with 55 seconds left and drove them into FG range, and their FG kicker missed. Again against a non-playoff team, we won 1 game vs playoff teams last year and that was because NE gave us the ball 6 times and we almost still lost.

How'd the actual post season game go, the one where Stroud fumbled 5 times and threw an INT,......how did that one turn out.......anyone, anyone?

Joe Flacco had a 342 yard game, 3TD's 0int win vs a playoff team last season, does that mean you want him?
 
Any coach would take the best opportunity to win games next season. Period. If that's Joe Flacco so be it. Because that is the difference between people paid to win games and you and I. We can afford to prognosticate about it because it isn't our job. At the beginning of the season who had Pittsburgh beating out the Ravens for the last playoff spot.....really?
So Coryea please supply a list of the QB moves you'd have made this season?
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Any coach would take the best opportunity to win games next season. Period. If that's Joe Flacco so be it. Because that is the difference between people paid to win games and you and I. We can afford to prognosticate about it because it isn't our job. At the beginning of the season who had Pittsburgh beating out the Ravens for the last playoff spot.....really?
So Coryea please supply a list of the QB moves you'd have made this season?
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Alot had us making the playoffs, we just made the playoffs the year before, then we added Rodgers, DK, Gainwell, got our 2024 1st round RT back from injury, added Ramsey, we upgraded our roster. Like I said if there's one game to win and you give me the choice of Rodgers or Wilson, I'm absolutely taking Rodgers, I never said he was bad. I just said he wasn't anything special, and isn't our future, bringing him back to win 9 or 10 games and draft in the early 20's does nothing for us.
I would've went after Willis, or Murray, call about Mac Jones, QB's that are still young and have something to prove, will any of those 3 turn into good QB's, doubtful, but there's a chance they could, Rodgers has zero chance. You bring in one of those guys and they suck, you bench them with no drama and see what Howard can do.
 
I would say outside of Murray which Id want nothing to do with everyone on that list comes with long term implications. Mac Jones would require a trade. Willis would eat a ton of cap with very few starts under his belt. In fact he'd be a 39 million dollar cap casualty in 2027.
 
Willis is getting 22 per I think, Mac Jones would probably cost a 4th, but it's the most important position in sports, you have to take some chances.
 
Coryea said:
Willis is getting 22 per I think, Mac Jones would probably cost a 4th, but it's the most important position in sports, you have to take some chances.
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The problem with Willis is its the 39 million next year if he fails. And sign me up for Mac Jones for a 4th. Considering Purdy's durability I dont think that is happening.
 
And so we can end this discussion. I dont really disagree that Rodgers is a dead end. However, as I said people with jobs on the line and requiring success. He is in mu mind the best available for next year. Trades and FAs are theoretical to some extent. And there isn't a hell of a lot anyhow. Maybe best case scenario we get a real look at Will Howard. If he is not promoted to 2nd string I think that will be a terrible decision.
 
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