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Transgenderism - A Thread of Its Own



Flog just reporting everyone at this point.
 
 
Sarge said:
These people are sick. I mean what even is that?
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No, they're normal. We're sick. We're the problem. If we would just go away everything would be perfect.
 
Tibs said:
Crazy times in America. I just hope Trump can weed out all the Communists, and arrest all the journalists, before things get out of hand. :rolleyes:


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What kind of stupid logic is this? No one is in favor of cops stalking women. That’s why cops who are caught doing this get arrested. No one is calling us bigots if we don’t agree that cops should be allowed to stalk women.

“The numbers are small so shut up and accept it.”

Spoken like a man, someone who will never be affected by this. The numbers are small because enough women have spoken up and said NO. No, we won’t give up the female sports category. No, you don’t get to put on lipstick and a dress and invade our private spaces. We don’t consent.

We don’t want men using their position as cops to stalk us. We also don’t want men being able to call themselves women and strip naked in front of us and watch us undress. Both things can be true.

Honestly, watching “Victoria” absolutely crush two of the best tennis players on our team because “she” is bigger, stronger and faster than any woman we’ve ever played, I can only wonder how any self-respecting person wouldn’t be embarrassed and ashamed to be cheating at a sport like this. Does Victoria go home proud that “she” beats every woman she plays? The absolute disregard for fairness is astounding to me.
 
Tibs said:
Just to give you a sense how ridiculous Trump & MAGAs are screaming about Communists!!



But we're veering off course in this thread. Back to "Transgenders" and what a massive, imminent threat they are to Americans.
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No threat to you of course, you’re a man.

Frankly the idea that lipstick and long hair can turn a man into a woman is highly insulting to me as a woman. If I darkened my skin and put on an afro wig and told you I’m now a black person, you’d likely strongly agree that it’s offensive and insulting to black people. But if an autogynephile transvestite puts on a dress and lipstick I now have to accept he’s a woman.

It’s not just a threat to Americans, it’s a threat to human normalcy.
 
Sarge said:
While I doubt it will be fully implemented in my lifetime, the left accomplishes these things through incrementalism. Elect a couple socialists here and there, implement a few socialist policies here and there. Meanwhile, you keep indoctrinating young people through high school, college and media manipulation. Couple that with the general apathy toward these things that this nation shows, and it really shouldn’t take too long.

The 2nd amendment is a great example of incrementalism. Take away this weapon, restrict this usage, ban this magazine. Little by little. Soon, the 2nd amendment won’t be the 2nd amendment.

I mean we have communists in our government. Never thought I’d see that.
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Yep. Even many who don’t openly call themselves socialists want to stack the Supreme Court which is our main Constitutional protection. But hey, nothing to worry about.
 
IndySteel said:
Trans women are men. This whole thing is ridiculous.
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As amazing as it may sound, we actually found an issue we can agree on 100%. The entire "legitimizing" the needs and wants of trans folks is ridiculous, and a non-starter, right out of the gate.

On the one hand, it's a free world. If gender-confused, perverse men want to dress up like women, chop their d*cks off, get breast implants, nobody gives a **** what they do. They have the individual right to do whatever they want. But to force their "trans" rights onto the rest of society, and have everyone go along with their perversion, and legitimize it, and pretend it's totally cool and acceptable, is an absolute farce. The fact some Democrats have gone down this road is simply a case of writing their own political execution slip.

I don't agree with "hating" on gays or trans folks, or mocking them, whatever, but disagree completely that men who "think" and "feel" that they're women should actually be considered women, be it regarding access to bathrooms, locker rooms, women's sports, whatever. It's utter nonsense and sick at its core. I will never support any form of this. It's pure insanity - and the downfall of Western civilization - personified.

On a side note: It's actually quite alarming to see the number of kids of friends of mine - both stateside and in Europe - basically dads of my generation, who are dealing with sons and daughters caught up in this "gender confusion" phenomena. Two of my friends have daughters in their mid to late teens who are "transitioning" to being boys. They've convinced themselves, that they're boys, not girls, to the extent of actually changing their legal names, etc. It is crazy to ponder having to deal with something like that, as a parent. It seems society around the globe has lost some basic sense of logic, meaning and structure, leaving kids dazed and confused about their identity, and sexuality. It's happening way too often, and not sure anyone knows what to do about it.
 
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Tibs said:
As amazing as it may sound, we actually found an issue we can agree on 100%. The entire "legitimizing" the needs and wants of trans folks is ridiculous, and a non-starter, right out of the gate.

On the one hand, it's a free world. If gender-confused, perverse men want to dress up like women, chop their d*cks off, get breast implants, nobody gives a **** what they do. They have the individual right to do whatever they want. But to force their "trans" rights onto the rest of society, and have everyone go along with their perversion, and legitimize it, and pretend it's totally cool and acceptable, is an absolute farce. The fact some Democrats have gone down this road is simply a case of writing their own political execution slip.

I don't agree with "hating" on gays or trans folks, or mocking them, whatever, but disagree completely that men who "think" and "feel" that they're women should actually be considered women, be it regarding access to bathrooms, locker rooms, women's sports, whatever. It's utter nonsense and sick at its core. I will never support any form of this. It's pure insanity - and the downfall of Western civilization - personified.

On a side note: It's actually quite alarming to see the number of kids of friends of mine - both stateside and in Europe - basically dads of my generation, who are dealing with sons and daughters caught up in this "gender confusion" phenomena. Two of my friends have daughters in their mid to late teens who are "transitioning" to being boys. They've convinced themselves, that they're boys, not girls, to the extent of actually changing their legal names, etc. It is crazy to ponder having to deal with something like that, as a parent. It seems society around the globe has lost some basic sense of logic, meaning and structure, leaving kids dazed and confused about their identity, and sexuality. It's happening way too often, and not sure anyone knows what to do about it.
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Not some Tibs. Most.
 
Tibs said:
As amazing as it may sound, we actually found an issue we can agree on 100%. The entire "legitimizing" the needs and wants of trans folks is ridiculous, and a non-starter, right out of the gate.

On the one hand, it's a free world. If gender-confused, perverse men want to dress up like women, chop their d*cks off, get breast implants, nobody gives a **** what they do. They have the individual right to do whatever they want. But to force their "trans" rights onto the rest of society, and have everyone go along with their perversion, and legitimize it, and pretend it's totally cool and acceptable, is an absolute farce. The fact some Democrats have gone down this road is simply a case of writing their own political execution slip.

I don't agree with "hating" on gays or trans folks, or mocking them, whatever, but disagree completely that men who "think" and "feel" that they're women should actually be considered women, be it regarding access to bathrooms, locker rooms, women's sports, whatever. It's utter nonsense and sick at its core. I will never support any form of this. It's pure insanity - and the downfall of Western civilization - personified.

On a side note: It's actually quite alarming to see the number of kids of friends of mine - both stateside and in Europe - basically dads of my generation, who are dealing with sons and daughters caught up in this "gender confusion" phenomena. Two of my friends have daughters in their mid to late teens who are "transitioning" to being boys. They've convinced themselves, that they're boys, not girls, to the extent of actually changing their legal names, etc. It is crazy to ponder having to deal with something like that, as a parent. It seems society around the globe has lost some basic sense of logic, meaning and structure, leaving kids dazed and confused about their identity, and sexuality. It's happening way too often, and not sure anyone knows what to do about it.
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I’m confused to see you post this after having mocked many of us over and over again about our concern for this issue.

I have raised three kids to adulthood and one thing you can count on is that they change. Constantly. They are influenced by many different things in their lives, certainly by their parents but also by their peers, social media, trends, etc. My daughters were involved in music and arts and I can definitely say for sure that being a heterosexual white person in these groups is not cool. Being alternative in some way is how they fit in. Used to be you would dress goth, wear black, dye your hair and get tattoos and piercings, now that’s not alternative enough. My daughter at one point told me she was gay (I told her we love her no matter what and just want her to be happy). Today she’s happily dating a man. I’m not suggesting there are no gay people, or even people who legitimately feel like they were born in the wrong body. I’m just saying that to pretend some kids aren’t influenced by outside factors into temporarily thinking these things is ludicrous. The explosion in numbers should be enough to give anyone pause. This used to be a rare condition, it became common and occurs in clusters. To permanently alter children’s healthy bodies because of these influences is criminal.

It’s sad to see so many of these kids being sold the lie that they can change sex and somehow force the rest of the world into fully accepting them as the opposite sex. It’s just never going to happen and they are doomed to a life of misery trying to be something they can never be. We would be doing a far greater service convincing kids that it’s ok to be a tomboy, lesbian girl or effeminate gay guy rather than telling them they can actually change genders.

Then of course there’s the whole other element of perverted autogynephiles who get off on dressing and acting like women. These men are not “women trapped in men’s bodies”. They’re misogynists who view women as nothing more than stereotypical sex objects. If you’re a guy who likes to dress up like a slutty teenaged girl with exaggerated **** and fishnet stockings, you’re not a woman. You don’t think like a woman or act like a woman. You’re a male pervert.
 
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oneforthebus said:
I’m confused to see you post this after having mocked many of us over and over again about our concern for this issue.

I have raised three kids to adulthood and one thing you can count on is that they change. Constantly. They are influenced by many different things in their lives, certainly by their parents but also by their peers, social media, trends, etc. My daughters were involved in music and arts and I can definitely say for sure that being a heterosexual white person in these groups is not cool. Being alternative in some way is how they fit in. Used to be you would dress goth, wear black, dye your hair and get tattoos and piercings, now that’s not alternative enough. My daughter at one point told me she was gay (I told her we love her no matter what and just want her to be happy). Today she’s happily dating a man. I’m not suggesting there are no gay people, or even people who legitimately feel like they were born in the wrong body. I’m just saying that to pretend some kids aren’t influenced by outside factors into temporarily thinking these things is ludicrous. The explosion in numbers should be enough to give anyone pause. This used to be a rare condition, it became common and occurs in clusters. To permanently alter children’s healthy bodies because of these influences is criminal.

It’s sad to see so many of these kids being sold the lie that they can change sex and somehow force the rest of the world into fully accepting them as the opposite sex. It’s just never going to happen and they are doomed to a life of misery trying to be something they can never be. We would be doing a far greater service convincing kids that it’s ok to be a tomboy, lesbian girl or effeminate gay guy rather than telling them they can actually change genders.
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We would be better off if we told and helped them to find Jesus. That’s a breath away from being illegal these days, but it’s worth a shot.
 
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