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Fire everyone, shoot the dog, install field turf...
Tomlin's look in the thrd period
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Maybe not, but if I'm whipping my dick out on that play I'm probably just gonna go for it. I think it was 4th & 2? The fg would have cut it to 8?
There is a few coaches that will need to be fired to help this team go where they need to go............
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I initially didn't like the call, and thought they should've went for it. It looked like he had the leg on it, though, but he nailed it into the stands. I guess the reason it didn't bother me all that much is the fact that, even though Bell had a great game, the pats* made some stops right at the LOS, especially in the second half. They weren't gonna put the ball in Landry's hands on 4th down, and new england more than likely stuffs Bell on the play anyway.
All you do is give Brady and Co. time to rethink what they want to do, even Batch in the postgame show was questioning it.
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Outcoached? Are you ******* crazy. That game was stolen by the refs and the league.
That 1st challenge was so stupid. It was clear as a sunny summer day that Gronk caught that. Our guys actually had a chance to win, but really stuck it to themselves
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Yeah, I wouldn't say they got out coached today either. There may have been some issues, but this game was well within the Steelers grasp and they didn't capitalize on it. Too many plays left on the field. I mean, people were expecting New England to break the scoreboard today from constantly scoring and it didn't happen. There were even times where ******** brady was frazzled and moving around and hurrying throws.
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The Boz missed 1 FG at that point. After he missed the 2nd I might call it a bad day. The FG attempt at that point though was just a bad call period.
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I was just happy that they played well enough to convince me we actually had a chance. Under the circumstances, I'm not terribly disappointed.
The challenge was stupid, but Tomlin seems to suck at challenges, or whoever is telling him to challenge sucks at telling him.
The challenge was stupid, but Tomlin seems to suck at challenges, or whoever is telling him to challenge sucks at telling him.
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Haley and Butler called decent games which is what allowed us to be in a game many thought we had no business being in, and that is when Tomlin's poor clock managing, time out usage, challenge usage becomes magnified. A coach with a better understanding of these concepts probably gets a closer game yet.
This should be a confidence builder in some ways to have a team missing its Franchise QB, RT, RB depth, #2-4 WRs, best defensive player, hobbled Shazier and we still had a chance despite all the pre snap penalties, botched FGs from a normally reliable kicker, poor clock management and questionable calls by the zebras. Hopefully we can right several of these things and **** THE PATS on their home field when it really counts.
This should be a confidence builder in some ways to have a team missing its Franchise QB, RT, RB depth, #2-4 WRs, best defensive player, hobbled Shazier and we still had a chance despite all the pre snap penalties, botched FGs from a normally reliable kicker, poor clock management and questionable calls by the zebras. Hopefully we can right several of these things and **** THE PATS on their home field when it really counts.
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Yep. A bad pass(int) by Jones was by our Coaches design. I'm sure the phantom hold on our TD pass to Heyward Bey was also our coaches fault. Also our kicker must have told to miss the FG in the first half. Clearly Tomlin was just out coached. In the second half we stop the Pats on their first drive and had a chance to take the lead but had to settle for a FG to pull within 1 point. Our team basically "The walking dead" were in the game easily well into the 3rd quarter and still a shot mid way into the fourth......but you saw the look on his face. Right. Now if you want to complain about the FG on 4th and 2 then go ahead and *****. Maybe even the challenge call but to say Tomlin was out coached at half time is laughable.
Wow. I watch the board a lot. And what's consistent is the way you answer people. Are you going to be a prick the rest of your life? Have a discussion without being a toolbag for once. Consistently? He had a 62% comp %. That's not too bad.
Tomlin was just as responsible as the players today. He was out coached. Poor challenge and bad mistake in trying that FG. Momentum was on steelers side at that point In the game and it was just 2 yards. Not only that he's at home and knows how difficult it is to hit a 54 yard fg in that building. He killed us there. There's little debate there and anyone that knows about FG attempts there knows that was the wrong call. Landry is a backup and this was without question his best performance, which wasn't much but it's a process.
dude if you think that is being a dick then you really haven't read this board that long.....
I've already posted my thoughts multiple times regarding the field goal attempt.....
the "catch" he challenged has been called incomplete many times....so not a bad challenge
but No, Landry did not have a good day, he missed a lot of passes and checked down way too often...
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I think Butler's getting too much slack because of the expectations going into this game. The Patriots shredded this defense on the ground with Blount. Gronk scored two touchdowns and they put up four touchdowns on us. I figured 17 is what Landry could get us against this team, but I suppose to expectations for this defense have gotten so low that today became an acceptable performance.
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Only 1 team has allowed the *''s to score fewer points. That was game 1. The *''s have scored 33 and 35 (?) Since the princess returned.
In a league designed to hamper pass defense, 27 ain't so bad, especially when the O can hold, at will and every one knows they cheat.
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Tomlin is a ******* idiot because he never learns from his mistakes. In close games he keeps trying those 52+ fgs and its always disaster. You have to coach perfect in those games that you are outgunned and he usually fails at every chance.
The challenge was horrible. Gronk caught the ball, took at least three steps, was tackled, rolled over, and then had the ball knocked out of his hands after almost his entire body was laying on the ground. Cost the team a potentially useful timeout at the end of the half.
The field goal attempt was the wrong choice for several reasons, and ironically, quite incongruous with how Tomlin has almost invariably approached these types of situations before. In the past, when his kicker had shown good accuracy and confidence, such as the Denver playoff game with the ball on the 34, he punts. Today, after Boswell had already missed a 42-yarder, and narrowly made two others, Tomlin inexplicably trots him out there for a 54-yard attempt. I just don't understand this guy's thought process.
The field goal attempt was the wrong choice for several reasons, and ironically, quite incongruous with how Tomlin has almost invariably approached these types of situations before. In the past, when his kicker had shown good accuracy and confidence, such as the Denver playoff game with the ball on the 34, he punts. Today, after Boswell had already missed a 42-yarder, and narrowly made two others, Tomlin inexplicably trots him out there for a 54-yard attempt. I just don't understand this guy's thought process.
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True beans but DHB could have gotten out of bounds, instead he chose to fight for that extra 1/2yard and in bounds............ WTF????
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SI rips Tomlin
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/10/23/nf...ghlights-storylines?xid=socialflow_twitter_si
A look at the worst coaching decisions from Sunday.
Worst:
• With 9:05 remaining and trailing the Patriots 27–16, the Steelers had a 4th-and-3 at the New England 36-yard line and Mike Tomlin elected to kick a 54-yard field goal with a kicker that had already missed what would've been a career-long 51-yarder earlier in the game. The kick predictably wasn’t close—it sailed wide right.
I wrote this week about the lack of a good coaching in the NFL being one of the biggest problems with the current level of play, and almost immediately I got comments about how good Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was, and how he's on his way to the Hall of Fame. Sunday should help disprove that viewpoint. In addition to the field goal decision, he went and challenged what was a blatant catch by Patriot TE Rob Gronkowski in the second quarter and cost his team a valuable timeout. This is where we are in today’s game.
In many ways, the Patriots had their way against the Steelers in a 26–17 victory, and you could say that the race for the No. 1 seed in the AFC looks to be pretty much over before November. But it wasn't quite that clearcut. I'm not sure what New England’s victory actually tells us should these two teams meet again. Despite being relatively close to full health, the Patriots couldn’t put away a Steelers team that didn’t have QB Ben Roethlisberger, RB DeAngelo Williams or DE Cam Heyward, while LB Ryan Shazier and WR Antonio Brown were going in and out of the lineup with injuries. I'm not saying the Steelers are primed to pull off an upset in the playoffs because gameplans will be adjusted on both sides, you still have the coaching mismatch that is Bill Belichick vs. Mike Tomlin, and the Patriots will likely have the benefit of playing at home, but I don’t know if Patriots fans left Sunday feeling that they will easily roll to a lowB repuS appearance.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/10/23/nf...ghlights-storylines?xid=socialflow_twitter_si
A look at the worst coaching decisions from Sunday.
Worst:
• With 9:05 remaining and trailing the Patriots 27–16, the Steelers had a 4th-and-3 at the New England 36-yard line and Mike Tomlin elected to kick a 54-yard field goal with a kicker that had already missed what would've been a career-long 51-yarder earlier in the game. The kick predictably wasn’t close—it sailed wide right.
I wrote this week about the lack of a good coaching in the NFL being one of the biggest problems with the current level of play, and almost immediately I got comments about how good Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was, and how he's on his way to the Hall of Fame. Sunday should help disprove that viewpoint. In addition to the field goal decision, he went and challenged what was a blatant catch by Patriot TE Rob Gronkowski in the second quarter and cost his team a valuable timeout. This is where we are in today’s game.
In many ways, the Patriots had their way against the Steelers in a 26–17 victory, and you could say that the race for the No. 1 seed in the AFC looks to be pretty much over before November. But it wasn't quite that clearcut. I'm not sure what New England’s victory actually tells us should these two teams meet again. Despite being relatively close to full health, the Patriots couldn’t put away a Steelers team that didn’t have QB Ben Roethlisberger, RB DeAngelo Williams or DE Cam Heyward, while LB Ryan Shazier and WR Antonio Brown were going in and out of the lineup with injuries. I'm not saying the Steelers are primed to pull off an upset in the playoffs because gameplans will be adjusted on both sides, you still have the coaching mismatch that is Bill Belichick vs. Mike Tomlin, and the Patriots will likely have the benefit of playing at home, but I don’t know if Patriots fans left Sunday feeling that they will easily roll to a lowB repuS appearance.
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SI rips Tomlin
a quick pass to Jesse james, those quick hitters ben used to do with heath would've been my call.
have James to do a delayed route, block initially, then sneak past the lbers...always good for 5-10 a pop.
bad call coach.
a quick pass to Jesse james, those quick hitters ben used to do with heath would've been my call.
have James to do a delayed route, block initially, then sneak past the lbers...always good for 5-10 a pop.
bad call coach.
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They do have a point about there being bad coaching. Years ago, Head coaches were almost all older coaches, who played in the league, then worked their way up rung by run and finally made head coach. These were coaches who could coach all the positions. They knew offense and defense. The staff was experienced too.
Now it seems owners just need a young coach to have had a season or 2 of good stats and then have a good interview and he's hired.
Coaches have noticed too. THey used to strive to teach their players the game. Not anymore. That's too hard. Why teach these guys when you can just give them a few tricks to master and then they can make enough plays to get you hired at a better job.
We have a bunch of coaches who are little more than playcallers. They spend all their time coming up with little tricks and gimmicks and little time making sure players can block and tackle.
That's how Belichick becomes a supposed genius, because he's teaching fundamentals. Everything they do is based on perfect execution, not on tricks. Perfect execution is based on fundamentals.
Of course, these days with practice itself nearly illegal, it's hard to teach like the old days.
Now it seems owners just need a young coach to have had a season or 2 of good stats and then have a good interview and he's hired.
Coaches have noticed too. THey used to strive to teach their players the game. Not anymore. That's too hard. Why teach these guys when you can just give them a few tricks to master and then they can make enough plays to get you hired at a better job.
We have a bunch of coaches who are little more than playcallers. They spend all their time coming up with little tricks and gimmicks and little time making sure players can block and tackle.
That's how Belichick becomes a supposed genius, because he's teaching fundamentals. Everything they do is based on perfect execution, not on tricks. Perfect execution is based on fundamentals.
Of course, these days with practice itself nearly illegal, it's hard to teach like the old days.
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Goddamn.....can't resist a good Tomlin-ripping can we ?
The team play better than expected and had there not been a couple miscues (score nullifying penalty and missed kicks), this game was there for the taking.
Without Cameron, Wheaton, Rogers, Shazier for a half, and a limping Brown we still had chances and guys stepped up. Give the coach some credit. Wait til the SPYGATES hang 40 on Rexy to appreciate how well the team stayed focused with so many wounded.
The team play better than expected and had there not been a couple miscues (score nullifying penalty and missed kicks), this game was there for the taking.
Without Cameron, Wheaton, Rogers, Shazier for a half, and a limping Brown we still had chances and guys stepped up. Give the coach some credit. Wait til the SPYGATES hang 40 on Rexy to appreciate how well the team stayed focused with so many wounded.