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I'd say the the problems are (1) pass rush, (2) secondary... (19) Ben.

The reason the Defense back in 05 and 08 was dominant was BECAUSE of the Pass Rush. Porter, and Co and the Deebo/Woodley combo created sufficient pressure to force early/poor throws.

bottom line, until we start to generate consistent pressure from the line and OLBs we will have a hard time beating teams.
Number 3 has to be Tomlin. What a dumb **** for accepting that penalty that would have given the Bengals 4th down. Glad we won the game despite him.
 
Number 3 has to be Tomlin. What a dumb **** for accepting that penalty that would have given the Bengals 4th down. Glad we won the game despite him.

LOL...."a dumb ****". How about a questionable call on his part.....that worked out. I'm not to sure Bengles punt there so I was on the fence with the call.
 
Number 3 has to be Tomlin. What a dumb **** for accepting that penalty that would have given the Bengals 4th down. Glad we won the game despite him.
It could of gone either way but it was the right call
 
Andy had a decent game, their RBs sucked. Then the bengal's D couldn't stop the Steelers in the second half
 
Number 3 has to be Tomlin. What a dumb **** for accepting that penalty that would have given the Bengals 4th down. Glad we won the game despite him.

In a 4th and 2 situation, the Bengals were easily going for it and had a higher percentage of conversion. By moving them back 10 yards you were forcing the backup QB to make a play. I'll take those odds any day, and smart to put pressure on the backup QB when he first comes in the game.

Normally if all things are equal, you decline the penalty (expecting a punt as a result), but situationally, accepting it was the higher percentage chance to stop the Bengals drive (as they were not looking to punt on 4th and 2).
 
In a 4th and 2 situation, the Bengals were easily going for it and had a higher percentage of conversion. By moving them back 10 yards you were forcing the backup QB to make a play. I'll take those odds any day, and smart to put pressure on the backup QB when he first comes in the game.

Normally if all things are equal, you decline the penalty (expecting a punt as a result), but situationally, accepting it was the higher percentage chance to stop the Bengals drive (as they were not looking to punt on 4th and 2).
Very well said and 100% spot on. There was every reason to believe they were going to not only go for it but that it could also be successful as well.
 
In a 4th and 2 situation, the Bengals were easily going for it and had a higher percentage of conversion. By moving them back 10 yards you were forcing the backup QB to make a play. I'll take those odds any day, and smart to put pressure on the backup QB when he first comes in the game.

Normally if all things are equal, you decline the penalty (expecting a punt as a result), but situationally, accepting it was the higher percentage chance to stop the Bengals drive (as they were not looking to punt on 4th and 2).

Yes I totally agree and may I add being up 14pts it makes them use more clock. With all the problems this team has someone is gonna point out this as a problem??? What the hell, it worked for us and really wasn't an issue. How about Tomlin having the team ready, did we not stop the fake punt???? I am not a Tomlin fan I am a Steeler fan but you can't call out Tomlin....not yesterday! JMO
 
Andy is our defensive player of the game...

Benglaz fans are going crazy

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Benglaz fans are going crazy

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When I saw this all I could think of was what happened to the poster that was known as Blackjesus or something similar to that?
 
When I saw this all I could think of was what happened to the poster that was known as Blackjesus or something similar to that?

Where do you think I got it from?

Who Dey!

Marvin Lewis now 2-11 at home vs. Steelers.
 
The bungles are the Cowboys of the AFC without the QB. They are never going to win anything. They have talent but Lewis isn't a good coach.
 
Number 3 has to be Tomlin. What a dumb **** for accepting that penalty that would have given the Bengals 4th down. Glad we won the game despite him.

I agreed with his call. If he declines, the Bengals have 4th and 1 at midfield and obviously go for it.

Accept the penalty and they have 3rd and 20 at the 30 yard line. Make any reasonable defensive play - even a below-average defensive play and give up 12 yards - and the Bengals have 4th and long, and not 4th and 1, and they punt.
 
I agreed with his call. If he declines, the Bengals have 4th and 1 at midfield and obviously go for it.

Accept the penalty and they have 3rd and 20 at the 30 yard line. Make any reasonable defensive play - even a below-average defensive play and give up 12 yards - and the Bengals have 4th and long, and not 4th and 1, and they punt.

I appreciate what you and others are saying, but our defense was playing ok (just ok) and I think they could have held on the 4th and short. It ultimately worked out but still disagree with the decision at the time.
 
The right call is to take the penalty
 
Love the reaction on the Bengals Board. Sounds like many here last week!!!

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Originally Posted by STC View Post
The better team lost today.

How so? Pitt is only a half game back after 13 games, and just beat us by 21 points.

Call me crazy, but I think the better team won today. Pitt has better coaches and a much better QB
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http://boards.bengals.com/showthread.php?t=128733
Yes because Tomlin is a better coach than Lovie Smith, Sean Peyton, Harbage, Mike Pettine and ******* Ryan!
 
Steelers D has faced 4th and 5 or less, 9 times giving up 5 first downs. They have faced 4th and 6+, 8 times giving up 1 first.

I don't know the specific instances of each attempt, but it doesn't seem to be very good odds of stopping 4th and 2.
 
Steelers D has faced 4th and 5 or less, 9 times giving up 5 first downs. They have faced 4th and 6+, 8 times giving up 1 first.

I don't know the specific instances of each attempt, but it doesn't seem to be very good odds of stopping 4th and 2.

The only difference is the fact that when we took the penalty it gave them the replay of third down.....The way our D has given up big plays had me on the fence on this decision. It was a true HC call and it worked....Mark one up for Tomlin.
 
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