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Stephen A Smith says it’s time

timsim00 said:
The ground swell is happening for sure, and now national sport media is on board (Stephen A., Dan Patrick, PFT, etc). for those entinties to say it, you know it must be bad.
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There was a lengthy segment on Pat McAfee's show as well. It's refreshing to see the national media finally turn the corner and see what many of us have been lamenting for years and years.

Tomlin has always had those guys in his corner...once the worm turns with these former supporters (on top of the displeasure already being rained down upon him by the local fans), and if the Steelers continue to shlt the bad the rest of this season -- this might reach the point where he eventually agrees that it's time to move on.

Pains me to say it, but I might have to root for the Ravens on Sunday.
 
topseed said:
There was a lengthy segment on Pat McAfee's show as well. It's refreshing to see the national media finally turn the corner and see what many of us have been lamenting for years and years.

Tomlin has always had those guys in his corner...once the worm turns with these former supporters (on top of the displeasure already being rained down upon him by the local fans), and if the Steelers continue to shlt the bad the rest of this season -- this might reach the point where he eventually agrees that it's time to move on.

Pains me to say it, but I might have to root for the Ravens on Sunday.
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You bite your tongue!
 
slashsteel said:
You bite your tongue!
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It's legitimately a weird spot to be in. The Steelers win that game, they're in the drivers seat to win the division and get blown out at home in the first round of the playoffs. That would likely all but guarantee us at least another 3 years of mediocrity. A total failure in an "all in" season at least provides some glimpse of hope for the change.

Btw, I will be rooting for the Steelers in hopes that I can actually go to a playoff game this year.
 
slashsteel said:
You bite your tongue!
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I know, I know.

But I can't deal with another 9-8 season, another first round playoff blowout loss, and another 2+ years with Mike Tomlin coaching this team. Losing to the Ravens on Sunday could go a long way in helping those things not to happen.
 
TheDudeAbides said:
Who in the world would give us a 1st round pick for Tomlin? I would be happy with a 30 YO Clark bar and a warm six of IC Light!
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Yo! Watch your mouth there, man! That's Mike Tomlin you're talking about, not some 3rd rate bum! You definitely ask for that beer to be ice cold.
 
Djfan said:
I won't be watching. Going hunting, but cheering for the rats? NEVER!!
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I won't be cheering for the Ravens, per se. Just rather indifferent.

I haven't missed a Steelers game since the 90's when I had to use a 13" black-and-white TV with rabbit ears to try and watch them on WGAL out of Lancaster, PA.

I really don't want to get to that point where I don't care enough to even see them play. Too sad for me to think about.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
It's legitimately a weird spot to be in. The Steelers win that game, they're in the drivers seat to win the division and get blown out at home in the first round of the playoffs. That would likely all but guarantee us at least another 3 years of mediocrity. A total failure in an "all in" season at least provides some glimpse of hope for the change.

Btw, I will be rooting for the Steelers in hopes that I can actually go to a playoff game this year.
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I will never root for any team that doesn’t have positive implications for the Steelers.

I am not convinced the team losing out brings change. We have had very embarrassing outcomes yet that mediocrity still remains.

As the owner could say oh this is just his first losing season.

Then there is the I despise losing outlook.

Some might think because of that I would back Mike. But I despise losing in the playoffs even more. Especially with seeing them get embarrassed continuously..

No outcomes could sway my mind about Mike at this point. Because we know the best scenario is a winning record . Not sure a playoff win accompanies that. I think we seen enough to know that isn’t going to realistically happen.

I actually see them winning 1 or 2 more . 3 possible if the rats sit players last game.

They will lose against the rats at their home, Detroit definitely. Miami probably is a loss. I can see the clowns being a win.

I am thinking 7 and 10 or 8 and 9 realistically.

This could be a repeat of last year and they just lose out. 6 and 11 and 9 and 8 are outside chances.

For me the buck ends with these scenarios.
 
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slashsteel said:
I will never root for any team that doesn’t have positive implications for the Steelers.

I am not convinced the team losing out brings change. We have had very embarrassing outcomes yet that mediocrity still remains.

As the owner could say oh this is just his first losing season.

Then there is the I despise losing outlook.

Some might think because of that I would back Mike. But I despise losing in the playoffs even more. Especially with seeing them get embarrassed continuously..

No outcomes could sway my mind about Mike at this point. Because we know the best scenario is a winning record . Not sure a playoff win accompanies that. I think we seen enough to know that isn’t going to realistically happen.

I actually see them winning 1 or 2 more . 3 possible if the rats sit players last game.

They will lose against the rats at their home, Detroit definitely. Miami probably is a loss. I can see the clowns being a win.

I am thinking 7 and 10 or 8 and 9 realistically.

This could be a repeat of last year and they just lose out. 6 and 11 and 9 and 8 are outside chances.

For me the buck ends with these scenarios.
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Even if Tomlin came back following a missed playoff appearance, I want to see them clean house with most of the coaching staff, particularly bringing in two new coordinators.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Even if Tomlin came back following a missed playoff appearance, I want to see them clean house with most of the coaching staff, particularly bringing in two new coordinators.
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What would new coordinators do? With his restrictions and schemes still in place? Only way this team gets out of this is by letting that man go. Just not sure Rooney will do it.
 
I've been waiting for this to come from AR....I told you guys everybody not named Metcalf in that W.R. room is trash. This explains all the yelling he does at these guys on the field, they don't pay attention to detail, they don't put the extra work in. And that comes from leadership on down. Even Warren joined in with that stupid flea flicker.


At the same time he won't blame Tomlin...he knows the truth though.
 
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SteelerFan448 said:
It's legitimately a weird spot to be in. The Steelers win that game, they're in the drivers seat to win the division and get blown out at home in the first round of the playoffs. That would likely all but guarantee us at least another 3 years of mediocrity. A total failure in an "all in" season at least provides some glimpse of hope for the change.

Btw, I will be rooting for the Steelers in hopes that I can actually go to a playoff game this year.
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Hosting the Texans... ,, oh boy
 
slashsteel said:
What would new coordinators do? With his restrictions and schemes still in place? Only way this team gets out of this is by letting that man go. Just not sure Rooney will do it.
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Hopefully not a repeat of what he said and then did last year.

"Although we've had similar results, rest assured that we're not doing the same things and hoping for a different result," he said. "We have adapted. We have altered our approach and we will continue because we're not getting what we seek -- and that's the confetti game, is to be world champs.

"Our goals are really clear. It's also really clear that we're falling short of it, and we're falling short of it in a consistent way. We're still going to be open to adapting."

Same results with the same approach--not sure what he meant by they aren't doing the same things. They have no adapted or changed anything and if they have, nothing he's done has come remotely close to winning a title in the past 9 years.
 
slashsteel said:
I will interact with the board, I will watch free agency, I will go to the draft. I will not watch another Mike Tomlin led Steelers game. I have been fighting with this for awhile. That stress level finally came to a head. I am done. When this team wants to step away from their Bob Nutting approach to actually caring what fans want I will turn on the game again…

I want a coach that will be competitive win or lose. Not fall apart year in and year out and incapable of change. Not have embarrassing uncompetitive matchups.
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I said the same thing. The only thing that saved the weekend was Kentucky firing Stoops and hiring Will Stein as I have been done with both of my teams and last night was IT for me and Pittsburgh until he's gone.
 
slashsteel said:
Think so? Not so sure he leaves voluntarily or not sure Rooney will can him.

I would be pleasantly surprised at either.
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He is going to take another job. The boos will only get louder and his skin is thin (look at his pressers after we lose) so he will find somewhere that needs a savior.
 
One of the few national media talking heads, majority are in Praetorian Guard mode protecting Tomlin, blaming Rodgers, the GM, basically everyone else, saying teams would line up to hire Tomlin in five minutes. A few weeks ago they were gushing at Rodgers’ comments that Tomlin was the reason he signed, now they’re blaming him.
 
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