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Steelers select Dri Archer in Round 3
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It's not on you, it's on your 'prediction' which you seem to say you believe in, yet not enough to say you're certain it will be correct, which to me says you don't believe ****.
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I'm not changing the point at all, you jumped into a part of the conversation that you didn't catch the beginning of. My "buddies"? How are they my "buddies"? I haven't actually posted in this thread about my opinion of Archer, I made a comment about Bryant after Wingman made one (basically two different writers views of the rookie camp, never know who's is the truth), then about the number 11 being taken already by Wheaton, and then about Spikes comment of this being a nearly 50 page thread on a third round pick (followed by a bunch of laughter).
Idioteque took offense, I don't know why... but whatever, he replied to me, I replied to HIM! The funny part, I agree with TMC and Idioteque about Archer. He's small, he might be fast but he's small. His chances of success are not great, but it doesn't change the fact that I will cheer for him and HOPE he proves everyone wrong.
But continue to get on my ONE comment that you took out of context... have you considered a career in the media?
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You are thick, dude.
Yes, I'm confident in my assessment. You know that; you're just grasping BC you, like Ribs, rifled through the entire thread looking for something that wasn't there. So now you want to pretend you don't know what "guarantee" means.
Better create another Google doc or two to chart your embarrassment.
poor cunthurt Idiot doesnt like being called out.
he proclaims himself educated on ALL draft picks yet how dare anyone get tired of his self-fellating in any thread on any topic about any player. ever.
oh. forgot the exclamation points!!
he proclaims himself educated on ALL draft picks yet how dare anyone get tired of his self-fellating in any thread on any topic about any player. ever.
oh. forgot the exclamation points!!
the funny thing is that most everyone would have rather had a different guy than Archer. But since we have him, he's ours and some of us *idiot not included* are attempting to give him a bit of slack before declaring him to be a complete and total washout.
Those kinds of statements could get you killed here, that kind of thinking is illegal..*sarcasm*
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I didn't take anything out of context. YOU were bitching about the thread. I don't care if you love Archer or hate him. It is irrelevant. You said what you said. Here it is again:
EVERYONE is wasting bandwidth. See the complaining about FOURTY SIX PAGES? Then you tell him to give it a rest. I don't understand why you even open a thread that is 46 pages if you are just going to ***** about it. Like I said, there are way to resolve these issues you have for long threads.
I'd rather discusses the merits of the players but that rarely happens.
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so which is worse? someone complaining about people complaining about a thread or someone complaining about people complaining about people complaining about a thread?
so nice to see chivalry is alive with Vader rushing to the side of his fallen princess.
so nice to see chivalry is alive with Vader rushing to the side of his fallen princess.
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What's worse is someone that doesn't have enough sense to talk about the merits of a player without getting personal. Sad really that you can't discuss players or anything intelligently. More of the same name calling and ignorant 3rd grade clamor.
Really????
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The following statement is either true or false-
"We will wish we had taken 10 other guys who were available ahead of archer"
The following statement is either true or false-
"Archer will NEVER live up to player (x)" Insert whomever player is x, (Of course you would need a set of measurables).
YPC, Attempts, total yards, Yards from scrimmage, touchdows, games played, average yards per play, etc.
You can tailor the discussion any way you like, bottom line is, this dude hasn't taken an NFL snap yet, and you've spent this entire thread saying he's going to suck.
Then you play the "So, have you stopped beating your wife yet" card, saying well show me where I guaranteed anything! No, you actually didn't but generally when you're saying "He's going to wash out" and since we don't have a time machine, and I was fairly certain you didn't mean his laundry, you were saying that this was going to happen in the future.
He might indeed suck, I don't know, however that's been my position this entire thread, there are very good reasons to think he might do quite well, there are also red flags (size, injury possibilities, fumbling issues) that's why he went in ROUND 3. Not a lot of guys with his speed and highlight reel are hanging out till round 3 if there aren't at least some concerns. I'll wait and see if Haley can make something happen with his new toy.
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"We will wish we had taken 10 other guys who were available ahead of archer"
The following statement is either true or false-
"Archer will NEVER live up to player (x)" Insert whomever player is x, (Of course you would need a set of measurables).
YPC, Attempts, total yards, Yards from scrimmage, touchdows, games played, average yards per play, etc.
You can tailor the discussion any way you like, bottom line is, this dude hasn't taken an NFL snap yet, and you've spent this entire thread saying he's going to suck.
Then you play the "So, have you stopped beating your wife yet" card, saying well show me where I guaranteed anything! No, you actually didn't but generally when you're saying "He's going to wash out" and since we don't have a time machine, and I was fairly certain you didn't mean his laundry, you were saying that this was going to happen in the future.
He might indeed suck, I don't know, however that's been my position this entire thread, there are very good reasons to think he might do quite well, there are also red flags (size, injury possibilities, fumbling issues) that's why he went in ROUND 3. Not a lot of guys with his speed and highlight reel are hanging out till round 3 if there aren't at least some concerns. I'll wait and see if Haley can make something happen with his new toy.
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LOL!! the little whiny douchebag was calling anyone else "uneducated" for not putting in the requisite 300+ hours per player game film prior to making an opinion. Then your princess wails about and lashes out when people do not jump to pick up pitchforks and boil oil for the witch hunt he's on.
besides, his merits, or lack thereof, were discussed approximately 30 pages ago.
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That's a no brainer, by far the worst is someone complaining about people complaining about someone complaining about some dude complaining about people complaining about a thread.
ah ha.
but if some dude is complaining about the thread where people are complaining about some dude complaining about the thread where people are complaining about a dude on a message board filled with people complaining about people complaining about threads created for the sole intent and purpose to once again complain about people complaining about the dude who complained, then we may have an issue. or two.
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So in other words, you're too much of a ***** to make an ironclad guarantee?
Do you grasp how stupid that sounds?
I didn't realize I was required by Google Doc himself to wager my life on Archer's success. (I'd lose anyway, since we know that Colclough is the cutoff for "solid pick.") I've said all thread that I consider Archer a poor pick who projects poorly in the NFL. I'm not interested in redefining the term "guarantee" to suit your needs now that you've spent several days searching this thread and memorizing my posts and have come up empty handed.
My statement on Archer is absolutely no different than predicting the Steelers to beat the Browns in Week One. You know this; you're just piggybacking Tibs and trying desperately to turn it into some fortune-telling statement. Furthermore, you're pissed that I don't care about whether SteelerNation.com considers me a good draft watcher. Because as lame as you think it is to discuss football in critical terms, that's how lame I think it is to troll and backpedal endlessly about Steelers Nation Prediction Statistics.
A Google ******* document. To track my draft "reputation." LOL.
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Absolutely. If that happened by some remote chance, first order of business would be to report that individual to the mods in hopes of a quick resolution to the issue. If left unchecked, that ********** doing all the complaining would create quite a bottleneck in the thread, which would unfortunately keep people from bitching about other people bitching about potentially the greatest Steeler draft pick of all time, the one and only Golden Flash, Sir Dri Archer. And that would be quite sad and consequently a lot of puppies would die in the process.
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So, why list the people for the doc then? Since it's obvious you have zero confidence in ANY of them being better than Archer?
See, when you make a statement, and then people say "why do you think that" and then you give reasons, it's called making an argument. If you're truly convinced your reasons are all sound, and your research valid, you have no reason to think you're argument is incorrect.
The draft has people who are wrong about it every year, not once did I claim to have any knowledge of the future of these players, I am hopeful however they will turn out well.
I am, however, confused as to why you would list 10 people that you simply "don't care" how it turns out?
That's odd, wouldn't you think?
Joe
seems Colbert made a statement as to whom he believed would be better than the next 10 guys.
can't idiot pull on his big girl panties and do the same?
****, it's like we drafted the offensive version of TimDong.
can't idiot pull on his big girl panties and do the same?
****, it's like we drafted the offensive version of TimDong.
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My reasoning is solid, considering Archer's success would be unprecedented and fly in the face of all common sense. Not having a crystal ball, I feel unqualified to make the guarantee you suddenly asked me to make. But I've stated with confidence my opinion and haven't wavered on it. You, not I, chose to ask for some guarantee when you realized how little sense you made.
At the time, I thought we were having a football discussion. I had no idea what was to come, nor that I would be your latest hardon, nor the extent of your obsession with Steeler Nation Statistics.
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So, you'd like to have a football discussion about who you think is going to be successful in the future, without saying who is ACTUALLY going to be successful in the future.
Got it.
I wonder if Dicknocchio can play CB because he backpedals better then any CB we could of drafted.
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Still waiting for my "made up" list
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..which I did, hence your LOL Google Document
Just smashing my head into a wall here. I give up. I guarantee Archer will be awful. I guarantee the Steelers will go 9-7. I guarantee Dan Kreider will come out of retirement. I guarantee t-man will cum in his pants at my every post, creating a Google Doc for each ejaculation.
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