Steelers select Dri Archer in Round 3

[Idioteque]

Just like last year when the incredibly fast Reggie Dunn who was an incredible KO return specialist in college but was not a puint returner failed miserably in preseason trying to become a punt returner. Agility, lateral quickness and finesses is a lot more important on punt returns than sheer speed.

Exactly. Wes Welker is an elite PR and he's about as straight-line fast as he is big.

Even if Archer were a world-class PR, the third round is a joke.

 

[steelerscotty]

Wasted pick. He would probably still have been there in the 4th maybe even in the 5th. Meanwhile we left some quality CB's and wr's on the board. Let me paraphrase some megadeath: if this is is the new steeler way and we get #7, I'll be the first to eat crow and get back in line . . .but it better work this time!

 

[TMC]

This guy may be there in the 4th....hear he can learn to return punts, never gets tackled by Gargamel.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

That's a good day. Not every game, but a good one without a TD.

And it's MILES better than what we've got now.

If the guy can get off 2 or 3 games a season, either shifting field position or housing a ball or two it can add wins to the W column. And winning's what Pittsburgh is all about.

In case you forgot, we ARE the only team with 6 rings.

I'm proud of our history as well, and that's why I don't like where we are headed. Brings to mind the Steeler joke from my ******* Cleveland friends -

How many Steeler fans does it take to replace a light bulb?

One to replace it, and one hundred to talk about how great the old one was.

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

The steelers have 6 picks tomorrow still have time to hit all the positions we as fans consider needs.

This.

We listen to all the draft 'experts' saying all year that we need a CB and a WR in round 1 & 2.

This is despite being damn near 30th in rushing yards gained and 25th in rushing yards allowed.

 

[Franco]

That's a good day. Not every game, but a good one without a TD.

And it's MILES better than what we've got now.

If the guy can get off 2 or 3 games a season, either shifting field position or housing a ball or two it can add wins to the W column. And winning's what Pittsburgh is all about.

In case you forgot, we ARE the only team with 6 rings.

Just a little dose of reality for you who is badly in need of some.

In the entire history of the NFL there has never been a game where a punt returner had 5 returns of 30 yards or more or just a :" good game " to you, LMFAO

 

[Steel Not A Player]

Just a little dose of reality for you who is badly in need of some.

In the entire history of the NFL there has never been a game where a punt returner had 5 returns of 30 yards or more or just a :" good game " to you, LMFAO

Oh...

Jesus...


Ok, we're talking aggregate totals here. The 30 yards per return, evenly spread out is not how it EVER works. You're trying to take an average and assume it's coming all at once.

No one's every had 150 return yards in a game? Ever? Yeah right. Their not all going to come in exactly even numbers. Some returns will be longer, some shorter. This is basic math son, and you seem to be struggling with it.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I think you can see his speed here. ******* fast as hell.

 

[steelpastor]

I don't think you have a good grasp of how field position works.

It's not just about housing kickoffs, it's about tilting the field on punt returns as well. 2 or three less first downs to reach the endzone on 4 or 5 possessions can translate into 10 points per game.

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I am more of the big-returner kind-of-guy. I loved watching Dwyer (even Davenport) returning kicks. I was REALLY looking forward to Blount returnng some kicks this year. BOOM! His average was better last year than any returner we've had in 10 years!

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[tapeANaspirin2it]

Stop. Shut up. Colbert I have to go, but if I find one more ****** pick when I get back I'll rub sand in your dead little eyes.

I also need you to go buy sand.

I don't know if they grade it but... coarse.

 

[Franco]

I don't think you have a good grasp of how field position works.

It's not just about housing kickoffs, it's about tilting the field on punt returns as well. 2 or three less first downs to reach the endzone on 4 or 5 possessions can translate into 10 points per game.

No moron it is you that can't follow the stupidity and lack of logic in your OWN posts. Aggregate has nothing to do with 2 or 3 less first downs on 4 or 5 possessions but I guess in your high school world they are the same. Please do tell us how the aggregate of 150 punt return yards equals 2 or three less first downs on 4 or 5 possessions without EACH return not being a minimum of 20 yards at a minimum, again something that has never happened in the thousands of NFL games ever played Einstein.

 

[Atlsteelers]

And Tavon is a pure WR with excellent hands that understands the route tree and how to get separation. But, other than that, yeah.....

Maybe we should just dig up the old Rainey thread and bounce it into word and change the names. What are Archer's issues? Durability and fumbles. What were Rainey's issues? Durability and fumbles.

But hey, they can run. I wonder if there are any 5'3" corners out there.......

A tad touchy I must say. Granted he was hurt at time last year but where else do you see durability is a concern. So was Tuitt and most people are excited about the pick. Fumbles??? That's not fair especially for someone who touched the ball as much as he did for that team. But I guess if you want to nick pick. He did have 10 lost fumbles in 4 years. Yea he is 5'8. That's the only knock really IMO. But Archer wasn't asked to play reciever as much as Austin so you have more film to choose from. All I'm saying is wait and see before comparing him to Rainey and writing him off so fast.

 

[TMC]

Same debate when they drafted Chris Rainey. Same argument rehashed. He is a weapon. Weapon. Speed kills. Big plays. Special teams. Yada, yada, yada.

Here is what it is. Is Archer a RB? If he is, only 1 RB weighing under 180 has been quasi-successful in the NFL in the last decade and that was Dexter McCluster and he had one good year with 114 carries for 516 yards and 1 TD. That is it. So, if you are selling him as a RB, sorry, not buying. The history and statistics show he will fail. Long odds.

So, is Archer a receiver? A slot receiver? If so, why not go with a guy that has been a WR consistently in college that understands routes, defenses, body control, how to attack the ball in the air, and all the other things that WRs have done in college while Archer too end arounds. He has a great vertical jump, does not use it as a receiver. Small catch radius. TINY hands, under 9". Miniscule. Short arms. Poor route runner. Does not block. As a receiver, there are probably 20+ players more NFL ready with NFL bodies.

Is Archer a specialist? Well, he does not return punts, putrid at it. Kick returner only.

So, a team that needs help/depth at NT, DE, OLB, CB, WR, and the OL decides it is wise to spend a top 100 pick on a kick returner. Let that roll around in your head a minute.

 

[Idioteque]

Oh...

Jesus...


Ok, we're talking aggregate totals here. The 30 yards per return, evenly spread out is not how it EVER works. You're trying to take an average and assume it's coming all at once.

No one's every had 150 return yards in a game? Ever? Yeah right. Their not all going to come in exactly even numbers. Some returns will be longer, some shorter. This is basic math son, and you seem to be struggling with it.

There have been 21 such games in league history. But I'm glad we spent a third chasing it. With a guy who's never been a punt returner. And is too small to play on offense. And doesn't have a position. And has an injury history. And played at Kent State.

Next year we should spend our first on a guy to bat down eight passes a game. Because Steelers.

 

[Franco]

Oh...

Jesus...


Ok, we're talking aggregate totals here. The 30 yards per return, evenly spread out is not how it EVER works. You're trying to take an average and assume it's coming all at once.

No one's every had 150 return yards in a game? Ever? Yeah right. Their not all going to come in exactly even numbers. Some returns will be longer, some shorter. This is basic math son, and you seem to be struggling with it.

No moron it is you that can't follow the stupidity and lack of logic in your OWN posts. Aggregate has nothing to do with 2 or 3 less first downs on 4 or 5 possessions but I guess in your high school world they are the same. Please do tell us how the aggregate of 150 punt return yards equals 2 or three less first downs on 4 or 5 possessions without EACH return not being a minimum of 20 yards at a minimum, again something that has never happened in the thousands of NFL games ever played Einstein.

 

[Steel Not A Player]

No moron it is you that can't follow the stupidity and lack of logic in your OWN posts. Aggregate has nothing to do with 2 or 3 less first downs on 4 or 5 possessions but I guess in your high school world they are the same. Please do tell us how the aggregate of 150 punt return yards equals 2 or three less first downs on 4 or 5 possessions without EACH return not being a minimum of 20 yards at a minimum, again something that has never happened in the thousands of NFL games ever played Einstein.

"Moron"?

That's a big word for a guy who clearly never finished 7th grade.

Out.

 

[ark steel]

I'm proud of our history as well, and that's why I don't like where we are headed. Brings to mind the Steeler joke from my ******* Cleveland friends -

How many Steeler fans does it take to replace a light bulb?

One to replace it, and one hundred to talk about how great the old one was.

Funny joke from fans of a team who hasn't won a championship in the Super Bowl era...

 

[lefty]

I think you can see his speed here. ******* fast as hell.

Man. This kid can flat out fly. I sure hope he works out.

 

[Franco]

"Moron"?

That's a big word for a guy who clearly never finished 7th grade.

Out.

..
Great comeback after I destroyed your complete lack of any football insight. So far your posts bely your lack of intelligence .

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Same debate when they drafted Chris Rainey. Same argument rehashed. He is a weapon. Weapon. Speed kills. Big plays. Special teams. Yada, yada, yada.

Here is what it is. Is Archer a RB? If he is, only 1 RB weighing under 180 has been quasi-successful in the NFL in the last decade and that was Dexter McCluster and he had one good year with 114 carries for 516 yards and 1 TD. That is it. So, if you are selling him as a RB, sorry, not buying. The history and statistics show he will fail. Long odds.

So, is Archer a receiver? A slot receiver? If so, why not go with a guy that has been a WR consistently in college that understands routes, defenses, body control, how to attack the ball in the air, and all the other things that WRs have done in college while Archer too end arounds. He has a great vertical jump, does not use it as a receiver. Small catch radius. TINY hands, under 9". Miniscule. Short arms. Poor route runner. Does not block. As a receiver, there are probably 20+ players more NFL ready with NFL bodies.

Is Archer a specialist? Well, he does not return punts, putrid at it. Kick returner only.

So, a team that needs help/depth at NT, DE, OLB, CB, WR, and the OL decides it is wise to spend a top 100 pick on a kick returner. Let that roll around in your head a minute.

And if it was such a huge need to get a speed guy why not draft Cooks in round 1?

They have Wheaton on the roster who has tons of speed. Why not just bring back Reggie Dunn for nothing?

Maybe Archer can play CB

 

[Idioteque]

And if it was such a huge need to get a speed guy why not draft Cooks in round 1?

They have Wheaton on the roster who has tons of speed. Why not just bring back Reggie Dunn for nothing?

Maybe Archer can play CB

More racist bullshit

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Funny joke from fans of a team who hasn't won a championship in the Super Bowl era...

True. That is the comeback, but it is still funny.

 

[TMC]

A tad touchy I must say. Granted he was hurt at time last year but where else do you see durability is a concern. So was Tuitt and most people are excited about the pick. Fumbles??? That's not fair especially for someone who touched the ball as much as he did for that team. But I guess if you want to nick pick. He did have 10 lost fumbles in 4 years. Yea he is 5'8. That's the only knock really IMO. But Archer wasn't asked to play reciever as much as Austin so you have more film to choose from. All I'm saying is wait and see before comparing him to Rainey and writing him off so fast.

According to ESPN, he had the HIGHEST FUMBLE PERCENTAGE of all RBs. Percentage is number of fumbles per touch. He had 13 fumbles, lost 10. He only touched the ball 424 times in his career. Le'Veon Bell had 414 touches his FINAL SEASON in college.

Archer sprained an ankle in 2012, then in the bowl game, he sprained his knee. In 2013, he sprained the same ankle and it stayed with him most of the year. Also had a shoulder issue.

Also, cannot find them, what were his stats for the 2011 college season? Just curious......

 

[FordFairLane]

Ok this is what I think. First pick Shazier and second pick Tuitt the Steelers brass are sure are starters, maybe this year maybe next but starters. Third pick 97 overall there's Bryant, McGill, Richardson and Archer. Maybe they aren't even close to sure about any of them starting but Archer they know will touch the football in the return game and will have nitch plays to try to use his speed. So is it better to draft a guy thinking he won't start or draft a guy you know won't start but will touch the football? And my guess is Bryant, McGill or Richardson will be there with our 4th pick but maybe they knew Archer won't get past Oakland in the 4th.

 

[LastRide]

I think they want to use Dri as a slot receiver. Quick little slant passes. Goodluck trying to catch him after. The Pats ripped us apart and other teams using Welker for those quick passes and slow guys like Foot can't cover or catch them. Guys got speed, acceleration, moves and vision.