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Steelers Release CB Cortez Allen

POP said:
I'll be honest: This guy sucks so bad I never even factor him into our "state of DBs" when thinking about it. I assumed he was gone even when he wasn't. **** happens in life and sports. Suddenly a kicker can't make any kicks, after years of being top shelf (Vanderjagt). A goalie all of a sudden can't stop a puck traveling 3 MPH. (See Fleury in post season). A pitcher all of a sudden can't stop hanging a softball across the plate. Allen hit one of these types of patches and may suck from here on out.
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Easy on Fleury the guy is kicking ***
 
Can't believe he didn't take a pay cut. My guess Pats or Ratbirds sign him 1 year min
 
FordFairLane said:
Can't believe he didn't take a pay cut. My guess Pats or Ratbirds sign him 1 year min
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Pats! My theory is the Pats will sign him. Providing a leak into our secondary--possibly defense. Knowing Thomas Marsha Brady will be suspended for having his hand in the cookie jar and liking to play with his coaches deflated foot(balls). Hoodiechek decides the next best move to defeat the team standing in his way is to sign their former players
 
Him, Blake and will allen were The Leak in our D

MTC said:
Pats! My theory is the Pats will sign him. Providing a leak into our secondary--possibly defense. Knowing Thomas Marsha Brady will be suspended for having his hand in the cookie jar and liking to play with his coaches deflated foot(balls). Hoodiechek decides the next best move to defeat the team standing in his way is to sign their former players
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why not wait tilll 6/1 if he refused a pay cut let him search for a new team before camp. If it is cut as of now foolish more dead money
 
in all honesty I really thought when Lewis left he would do well. fast forward a few years and a lot of wasted millions... good like allen and goodbye.
 
i was hoping they would try Allen at FS. He has good ball skills but he seemed to lose his nerve as a CB.
 
bermudasteel said:
I told Coolie, today, that we should DEFINITELY see a DB picked early now. I'm always right.
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Dang right your are,............and Coolie is always left........ Got it !!!!!! LOL




Salute the nation
 
I don't like it. Not now. Not before the draft.

The guy has less than 500 defensive snaps since you're evaluation of him as a player indicated he's worth $5 million/year. Does that really make sense to anyone?

Something about this whole situation is fishy. And maybe another disconnect between the Colbert and Tomlin that isn't being uncovered or reported on. Oh to be a fly on the wall 2 years ago when the decision was made to pay him.....
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
i was hoping they would try Allen at FS. He has good ball skills but he seemed to lose his nerve as a CB.
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Always injured, confidence easily lost. Great height, speed. Just didn't have his head in the game most of the time. He did show flashes of promise. But Cortez just wasn't meant to be
 
I honestly hope it's NOT designated a post June 1st cut. I'm tired of pushing dead money into future seasons. Bite the bullet and move on.
 
So the first 3 years after with Crosby misdiagnosed with a concussion, or the next 4 when the team limped to the playoffs injured?

Sorry pop, I'm a goaltender. I know talent when I see it. People who half root for hockey always blame the Goalie. See flyers fans.
 
bmoritz said:
I honestly hope it's NOT designated a post June 1st cut. I'm tired of pushing dead money into future seasons. Bite the bullet and move on.
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Not how it works.

If he's NOT a post June 1 cut, his dead money will be:
2016 - 4.05m (saves 1.7m)
2017 - 2.7m (saves 2.95m)
2018 - 1.35m (saves 4.3m)

If he's designated a post June 1 cut, his dead money is
2016 - 1.35m (saves 4.4m)
2017 - 1.35m (saves 4.3m)
2018 - 1.35m (saves 4.3m)

It would be a dumb move to not designate him a post June 1st cut, REALLY dumb.
 
Sometimes ya gotta gamble when you want to lock up young players who show a little promise at positions of need. This time they gambled and lost. Usually it works out, but this is not one of those times.
 
insaniti said:
Not how it works.

If he's NOT a post June 1 cut, his dead money will be:
2016 - 4.05m (saves 1.7m)
2017 - 2.7m (saves 2.95m)
2018 - 1.35m (saves 4.3m)

If he's designated a post June 1 cut, his dead money is
2016 - 1.35m (saves 4.4m)
2017 - 1.35m (saves 4.3m)
2018 - 1.35m (saves 4.3m)

It would be a dumb move to not designate him a post June 1st cut, REALLY dumb.
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OK, thanks for explaining it to me, I didn't understand how it worked. I thought if we cut him effective now, we took the hit and that was it.
 
Hmmm, seems like they just cut him outright and not with a June 1 designation.

From steelerdepot:
Question: Was the decision to cut outright Cortez Allen now, and with no designation, the best move?

We got a bit of late in the week news yesterday evening when the Steelers announced that they had released five-year veteran cornerback Cortez Allen, originally a 2001 fourth-round draft pick who had spent time in the starting lineup, but equally as much time sidelined with injuries.

In spite of injury concerns and the fact that he had to be demoted due to below the line play, the Steelers signed Allen to a five-year, $26 million contract, partially due to the fact that he was able to regain his starting job late in 2013, and topped off the penultimate game of the season with a key pick six.

In fact, it was Allen’s largely random flurry of turnover production, notably late in the 2012 season during which he was starting as an injury fill-in, that encouraged the team to let Keenan Lewis go, believing Allen was their cornerback of the future.

That proved to be a very wrong notion, it not simply due to performance, then due to his sheer inability to remain healthy. Even while on the field, Allen played hurt frequently, and it seemed inevitable that he would not make the 53-man roster.

When reports surfaced that he was asked to take a pay cut, the assumption was that he would at least make it to training camp, and this leads me to believe that the timing of his release, just weeks into April, suggests that the front office’s request was refused, prompting his release. If you ask a player to take a pay cut, you have to be prepared to do without that player.

That is the likeliest explanation for the timing of the release, even if it is against the team’s nature to cut a veteran loose this far into free agency—they are more likely to release him early to give him a fair chance to hit the market—but there are some advantages to it.

For one thing, it helps to clarify the secondary position heading into the 2016 NFL Draft, and while this doesn’t necessarily translate to an increased need at cornerback, it does simplify matters, knowing exactly who they have to work with.

In addition to cutting him now, and doing so outright with no post-June 1 designation, the Steelers due reap some immediate benefits with respect to the cap. The team gains $1.7 million in cap space for 2016, minus displacement, which is money that they have access to immediately, putting them somewhere just north of $3 million under the cap I believe.

Had they released him with a post-June 1 designation, they would have received a $4.4 million cap flow, minus displacement, although the $2.7 million discrepancy would have been made up in additional dead money in 2017. Doing what they did in the manner they did it would be most beneficial if they have a use for that extra cap space before June, so how much this particular move and how it was made actually makes sense is yet to be determined from my point of view.
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Who is the STEELERS' cap guru ?????? I thought is was a guy named Kahn who does the finer work on contract wording..... Maybe ??




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So as I'm reading Tibs post, they took the cap savings now because they are signing someone immediately and couldn't do it without cap relief now.
 
From what I saw the Iggles were expressing interest.

Considering his past injury issues it would have been a huge risk to try to let him earn a spot this year, he'd go to camp lace em up and tear an Achilles with his luck... then we get the pleasure of him riding another year on our IR. Good move to get rid of him if he wouldn't take the cut.
 
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