SO FAR , he cant carry Farriors jock.
Steelers Expect Bush to Anchor Defense in 2021
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I thought Bush was solid in his first season. Made some good splash plays. Farrior was solid and consistent I will agree in these areas he isn't jock strap worthy.
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The "coveted" first round pick they traded for Bush was 20 overall if memory serves, much less coveted than the pick #10 they got to draft Bush...just sayin'
We gave up a 2nd and 3rd to move up in the round would be a bit more accurate. The only recent pick 1 we actually parted with for a player was for Minkah, a very solid move it was indeed.
Also a bit hesitant to label him a generational talent (unless we are referring to stupidity of tweets) until he does a little something more on the field,
He does have a unique skill set, but also has a lot to prove
Just for reference from what I could pull up quickly last year stat lines for comparison:
Devin Bush 278 snaps 26 (16/10) tackles, 1 sack, 0 INT
Robert Spillane 378 snaps 45 (39/6) tackles, 2 sacks, 1 INT, 1FR, 1TD
By this measure Spillane seemed to perform equally "stat wise" is he too a "generational" talent?
Up to this point D Bush looks the part, but the hype is more than the production...especially when comparing him and what we gave up for him to a UDFA
We gave up a 2nd and 3rd to move up in the round would be a bit more accurate. The only recent pick 1 we actually parted with for a player was for Minkah, a very solid move it was indeed.
Also a bit hesitant to label him a generational talent (unless we are referring to stupidity of tweets) until he does a little something more on the field,
He does have a unique skill set, but also has a lot to prove
Just for reference from what I could pull up quickly last year stat lines for comparison:
Devin Bush 278 snaps 26 (16/10) tackles, 1 sack, 0 INT
Robert Spillane 378 snaps 45 (39/6) tackles, 2 sacks, 1 INT, 1FR, 1TD
By this measure Spillane seemed to perform equally "stat wise" is he too a "generational" talent?
Up to this point D Bush looks the part, but the hype is more than the production...especially when comparing him and what we gave up for him to a UDFA
Spillane roams in a much narrower box in comparison to Bush. Really think the two shouldn't be compared statistically unless that is part of the equation.
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I just HOPE he, Devin isn't believing his hype.! He has a ways to go to catch up to the hype. I'm not saying he can't achieve the hype but it would be nice if he did it in reverse and showed a little humility along the way,
I want him to super exceed everything said about him and represent our beloved STEELERS well.
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I want him to super exceed everything said about him and represent our beloved STEELERS well.
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Good response, no really cooch
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So in a narrower box he makes more plays for than a player who covers more ground is the argument?
I agree he has less coverage assignments, if that is your point...but wouldn’t a player who covers so much more ground make more plays otherwise?
I was wondering what "once and a generation" meant, myself.
We had an in-depth discussion on here a few months back about how Spillane's numbers were much better, how he made more splash plays, and how the defense didn't have any drop off after Bush's injury...but Bush fans will fabricate any type of excuse to explain it away.
Not necessarily really depends on how he is used. Bush drops into coverage more so if they aren't throwing to his man there is no plays there to be had. In that scenario. Which would lessen your run stopping opportunities in comparison. Basically two different linebacker positions with different responsibilities.
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I agree with your take on different responsibilities Slash, that’s where I assumed you were going with it.
I would personally not call them 2 different LB positions though as one guys was subbed for the other with the same group of teammates surrounding him (until more injuries derailed that too), so to me if ever comparing players statistically one of the more fair analysis is new guy in old guys spot surrounded by same guys.
but again totally agree Bush had more coverage responsibilities in general due to his freaky athleticism. Just wish that freaky athleticism translated to more splash plays as it seems from his small sample size last year there was not a 2nd year leap happening for him.
And the generational thing really gets me because he’s not Patrick Willis, Luke K (however the hell ya spell his last name) **** he’s not even a Brian Urlacher yet I could go on with several others from our generation that exceed his impact.
So right now I’d label him a good player... hopefully working towards something better, or the Steelers invested too much in a coverage LB for a job that has not too much drop off when passed over to a UDFA. The ceiling is there, can he reach it?
I would personally not call them 2 different LB positions though as one guys was subbed for the other with the same group of teammates surrounding him (until more injuries derailed that too), so to me if ever comparing players statistically one of the more fair analysis is new guy in old guys spot surrounded by same guys.
but again totally agree Bush had more coverage responsibilities in general due to his freaky athleticism. Just wish that freaky athleticism translated to more splash plays as it seems from his small sample size last year there was not a 2nd year leap happening for him.
And the generational thing really gets me because he’s not Patrick Willis, Luke K (however the hell ya spell his last name) **** he’s not even a Brian Urlacher yet I could go on with several others from our generation that exceed his impact.
So right now I’d label him a good player... hopefully working towards something better, or the Steelers invested too much in a coverage LB for a job that has not too much drop off when passed over to a UDFA. The ceiling is there, can he reach it?
insaniti, I read the article. I did NOT miss the point. Perhaps the OP should have used another word than ANCHOR? I didn't write that he did and asked for comments.
Devin Bush had a nice rookie season, though I thought he got pushed around too much. I chocked that up to being a rookie.
He was injured and out most of last season so his track record is not very lengthy.
More time on the practice field and weight room and less time on social media would be a good start.
Let's hope he plays up to his potential.
Devin Bush had a nice rookie season, though I thought he got pushed around too much. I chocked that up to being a rookie.
He was injured and out most of last season so his track record is not very lengthy.
More time on the practice field and weight room and less time on social media would be a good start.
Let's hope he plays up to his potential.
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Well considering there was a lengthy thread last year, started by coach, trying to argue the exact same points... Only to get torn apart, it was a very fitting response
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Sorry Insaniti, I see Coach threads and move along haha, must have missed it
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There's a lot of things missed in a Coach thread so no worries on that aspect.
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I really hope Devon Bush shows up at camp mentally and physically prepared and excels! If that happens this posting snafu becomes a non issue.
All cellphones etc should be held in a lock box OUTSIDE the locker room so there is some privacy for these men after a game. We DON't need a repeat of the AB debacle from a few years ago.
All cellphones etc should be held in a lock box OUTSIDE the locker room so there is some privacy for these men after a game. We DON't need a repeat of the AB debacle from a few years ago.