I think he will jump to the draft.
Will be interesting to see the combine measurables as there is a lot of weight height questions than can be solved..
So... you HAVE TO take a quarterback in this draft... who ya taking?
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Will be interesting to see the combine measurables as there is a lot of weight height questions than can be solved..
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Maybe but I get the impression it’s fear of failure, he was anointed as the Penn State savior and Heisman candidate. He was use to success based on his natural abilities but that won’t carry you through adversity. It was like every play needed to be successful, don’t take a sack or throw the ball away which resulted in some bad decisions and poor throws. I don’t think he’s scared, more like gets easily frustrated, maybe some football psychological immaturity.
I have no idea how he’ll pan out, drive it into his head that sh:& happens, the team isn’t looking for him to save it. Go out, take your lumps and let the game slow down. You’re a third day pick, grow up.
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If I had to in this draft ........... Chambliss or Beck in round 4 area
If I had to in this draft ........... Chambliss or Beck in round 4 area
No concern about his height at all... he's a gamer.
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Either Allar for the tools or Chambliss for, as berm just said, being a gamer.
I'm really not a fan of small QBs. They can't see over the line and they seem to be more injury prone. However, his upside is relatively high with good arm strength and the ability to create. Big plays in big moments helps as well. A possible concern, why does he want a 6th year in college and why is he fighting it?
I'm really not a fan of small QBs. They can't see over the line and they seem to be more injury prone. However, his upside is relatively high with good arm strength and the ability to create. Big plays in big moments helps as well. A possible concern, why does he want a 6th year in college and why is he fighting it?
He was only at Ol' Miss for one year. His other 3 healthy years were played at Div. ll Ferris St. Might have been told his draft stock would improve with another good year up with the big boys.
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Maybe his potential NIL money for the extra year in college will equal several years of projected draft pick money.
When studying this era’s multiple SB winners the majority of them are 6 foot four and five , and a 6 two. Stafford and Darnold also 6 three to name some more recents.
For me I try to find that winning SB formula and good height the majority of the time is a common measurement.
I want those gun slingers too as they last longer than a QB that survives using his legs. Give me the pure pocket passers.
I think Allar fits that mold when comparing him to Chambliss.
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Between Nuss, Beck, Green (and maybe throw Allar in that group too) their should be at least one of these guys available late day 2 or early day 3 to pair with Howard.
I’d take Green out of the bunch in that 4-5 range if possible but wouldn’t hesitate using our last 3rd either if QBs are going faster than expected.
Size, athleticism and an NFL arm he reminds me of Randall Cunningham but raw when I watch him play. He needs some coaching up, hopefully that is some rhythm new staff is capable of.
I’d take Green out of the bunch in that 4-5 range if possible but wouldn’t hesitate using our last 3rd either if QBs are going faster than expected.
Size, athleticism and an NFL arm he reminds me of Randall Cunningham but raw when I watch him play. He needs some coaching up, hopefully that is some rhythm new staff is capable of.
Trinidad with a late 3rd, or wait for Haynes King later to develop.
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Absolutely love King as a football player (how can you not?), in the right coaching he could be a weapon as a Swiss Army knife player (Taysom Hill) type of role.
I really don’t see NFL QB in his future though, he may be an asset running the scout team as QB. Let him run the tush push play along with a few other gadgets and be the oh **** QB3 ya never wanna see under center.
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Seems like running QB can deliver better results earlier in their career, which make them more efficient in the balance sheetsince the get-go but have a clear ceiling and after those legs are gone then the whole castle crumbles.
With pocket gunslinging QBs the problem is they take a lot more time to develop while they adjust to nfl speed and learn to read the D. If you don't have the patience for them then you see the Darnolds, Mayfield, etc getting discarded and only if they get another shot and a better situation they might achieve the expected level for the investment made
With pocket gunslinging QBs the problem is they take a lot more time to develop while they adjust to nfl speed and learn to read the D. If you don't have the patience for them then you see the Darnolds, Mayfield, etc getting discarded and only if they get another shot and a better situation they might achieve the expected level for the investment made
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I agree, I’d use some, but not tons of capital to move up into round 2 to snag him.
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There are rumors the Raiders might be willing to trade the first pick. I like Mendoza. I would give several future 1st round picks for him.
I think at some point in the next couple of years we are going to half to pay premium capital to move into the top 10 for a QB.
With the Duece as controlling owner and his desire to compete every year I don’t think we ever have a bad enough year to get a top 10 pick unless we trade for it
I think at some point in the next couple of years we are going to half to pay premium capital to move into the top 10 for a QB.
With the Duece as controlling owner and his desire to compete every year I don’t think we ever have a bad enough year to get a top 10 pick unless we trade for it
With three thirds Id use one if he is there. Try the lower pick shotgun method. You might not get a superstar but you might get a 10 year starter capable of winning a SB.
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I agree, nothing I watched from Haynes during his time at Georgia Tech said "NFL quarterback."
Oh if the Raiders would trade that pick Steelers should be on the phone. They could dangle TJ with their pick and whatever..
After Mendosa there isn't much to be all that hopeful for, imo. If we can trade all of our picks for the #1 overall pick, take Mendosa and move on. We all know that won't happen so I'm taking Ben's point of view. Don't draft another mediocre QB to build around this draft, use your picks to build a team THEN pick the best QB you can next year.
I keep seeing Beck's name here...please no. I have never seen a more 'punchable face' on a human, and he acted like an entitled punk in the NC game. Screw him. Allar hits the panic button way too quickly and struggles with accuracy. He also has ZERO leadership ability.
Ride or die with Howard and see what the young man has in the tank. He might surprise a lot of people.
I keep seeing Beck's name here...please no. I have never seen a more 'punchable face' on a human, and he acted like an entitled punk in the NC game. Screw him. Allar hits the panic button way too quickly and struggles with accuracy. He also has ZERO leadership ability.
Ride or die with Howard and see what the young man has in the tank. He might surprise a lot of people.
I agree with you man..
Take a chance on Fagnano late in the draft I think it’s a solid late round selection at quarterback.
Besides that he has Indy‘s favorite last name! Lol
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My only counter to that is Franklin always wilted in the big games, maybe it was him and not so much the QB. He missed some throws but the play calls were usually terrible. Franklins backside puckered up real tight in those games. I would be willing to take a gamble on him in the 4th.
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I see that he's invited to the combine, so we'll get to see him in drills against the others.
He runs a 4.45 forty time.. I wonder if he could move to a slot receiver? Hines did.
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Exactly, dude has that IT factor ya love to see on your team, gutsy like Hines too. His accuracy all over the field just isn’t where it needs to be.
I would definitely rather take a late round flyer on this type of project than a ps/special teams guy. He could be one of those slot guys ya hate to play against (if he’s open to the role change).
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You locals will have a better idea about him, but, if I'm taking a QB after the first couple of rounds this draft, I'd take a flier on Allar and see if the new QB whisperer at head coach can turn him into Big Ben 2.0.
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Can he overcome these negatives?
Just kidding, that's from Josh Allen's draft profile. Allen wowed at the combine, Allar could, too.